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box of super pairings for the ask game? :D
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lmaooooo alright alright let me think
as usual, read more because i went overboard
the blanket statement that i will say is that kara is not sg's Little Black Dress for me. that, if you couldn't tell, falls on lena luthor. her character just feels more adaptable without having to, like, manufacture Legitimate Reasons to put people in the same room. also, in a highly biased lens, she's my favorite character so she's the barbie i'd wanna have everyone play with.
back to kara: her pool is small because i think it's specifically because of the fact that kara is actually a rather Particular Character so her pool of candidates for romantic partners is small. can you make it work with any of the others, no matter how far or close they are to her canonically? yeah of course, duh. but for me, it's all about how much more work it takes for me to get there. and the reality is that it takes a lot of work for me to get there, i guess
superguardian (or kara/winn) - NO
i mean i think they fumbled that bag so i don't feel inclined to pick it back. the potential is there, but i think the larger disservice to james' character as a whole means that i now have to work twice as hard to get to where i would want for it. which is to say i don't want much of it in the first place. 2 be frank, het ships have potential and it's not like i automatically hate them but it just doesn't bring me joy im so sorry
i do think the existing friendship though works well enough for me the same way that kara/winn also works well enough for me. for all my feelings about s6, i did like their little s1 crew reunion before the SuperfriendsTM truly became what it was, i guess kara and the boys could have truly been a Unit, and for a time, it was
kara and william - NO
here's my thing
the way that lena doesn't know how friendships work and has slept with her three friends, kara doesn't know how friendships work with male coworkers and should not be dipping in company ink. like why is that your immediate dating pool? i know it's because your life is working 2 jobs, but maybe consider not having your one and only dating pool at work (unless of course you've shared a compelling starcrossed lovers family history, in which case, by all means that shit is delicious)
kara and brainy - NO
let kara be friends with guys who want nothing to do with her romantically and brainy succeeds in this so good job
not just because i want to only ship kara with a woman; if anything, i don't have the same issue about shipping kara with a man as i do with lena lmaooo i think it's because she DOES come across as super straight on the show. my headcanons of course have kara a bit more butch, definitely gayer, but from watching her on the show, she's pretty Heterosexual lol
i'd like to headcanon that brainy is the kind of brother figure that i think kara would have wanted with kal. if kal wasn't so much older than him and didn't reach earth before she did. kara has such intense younger sibling vibes that it would have been interesting to get Order Sister vibes from her
kara and monel - NO
i don't care about mon-el LMAO
but! kara and imra is an interesting enough rarepair im happy 2 play with. here's what i'll say: dolly parton's 'jolene' but the gay reading of it
superrojas - YES, BUT
i think it's possible, if you believe in yourself enough (which i do). but i think the Effort required for it requires jumping through a few hoops. the difference between superguardian is that i'm focusing on the ladies. anyway i think their getting together literally needs lena as a connection point. first of all, they exist as canonical foils to lena; the betrayal, the reconciliation, etc etc. lena's best friends who independently broke her heart. there's solidarity there, there's camaraderie there. while lena is getting her happy ending with sam (lol), i think andrea and kara can find love due to the love they lost. the recognition across the table from each other can be fertile ground on what not to do, how not to hurt or be hurt. and i think it's a relationship that exists outside of what's traditional or typical, which i think the both of them are kind of afraid of. because i think the both of them care for that and their potential relationship would exist outside of that and people might not understand it, but they would understand each other. admittedly, one of the hiccups is the differences in their station in life. as i mentioned in the lena-version of this ask meme, lena and andrea are literally just in the freakin .05% of society and so their class status in life is so different from kara. andrea hosts galas and swanky parties and kara rents dresses. the discrepancy of 'from opposite side of the tracks' would be more apparent, which is funny because kara is decidedly middle class LMAO in any case, i also think it can still happen though, in very particular circumstances, especially if we're to focus on a version without lena. and that is actually if i put on a more serious lens to their work dynamics. i think some power imbalance exists there that feels more reasonable to overcome than kara and cat, at least for me. this is where enemies to lovers could really be something here
kara with sam, kelly, or nia - mmm idk i think it literally has to take A Very Specific Instance
for sam: i just don't believe sam would put up with kara's bullshit at all. she has a child already ya feel me? i do think there are opportunities to make this work before the reveal and rift happens. post-rift, though?god sam just doesn't seem the type to forgive on lena's behalf. so it would feel like such an insurmountable barrier to overcome. if i'm not stuck on canonical events, i do think it can happen just by virtue of their personalities. they hit similar emotional beats and function in the Supportive and Loyal departments
for nia: i'll say never say never, but i think they are better off as friends. i think platonic commitment to being friends and to be calling her out on her bullshit is the name of the game. the mentorship between kara and nia could be extended in a way that really puts her to think about her Role and Leadership seriously, both at work (catco) and at work (superheroing). the mentorship is there, but i need kara to step up a bit more, to go beyond her punch first, think later. what is the cost of being a reporter? of being a superhero? as both at the same time? nia is literally following in her footsteps, so how can she make it better for the person after her?
for kelly: i guess for me, i'd want to know who is kelly outside of kara? i think she'll also call kara out with her bullshit, but i would want the military and vigilante tension and the larger understanding of sacrifice and justice to exist as tension points. let them war about it. but otherwise, i think kara just needs more female role models.
supercorp - YES
obviously, i have established that i do
but for a more thoughtful answer, i think for me the biggest thing here is that i just honestly love how their lives are intertwined already, simply by being collateral to the feud of their male relatives. before they knew each other, the lines have been drawn between them. come to find out that they're trying to cancel out the friction between lex and clark and be better than them? let me gobble that shit up. but also, the chemistry between them is great, even with the betrayal. to be the friend who broke lena luthor to such a degree as to seek revenge on behalf of the world? like, who else is doing it like them? they also just have chemistry and history with each other, the foundation for a relationship that, if nothing else, carve themselves in each other's souls, you know? the truth is this: it's like when one partner cheated on the other partner and they have to crawl back out of the hell they fell into to see if there's still a future with them. kara can be stubborn enough to try and go for it (as i choose to believe despite the wrong lesson she learned of washing her hands of her impact on lena) and lena, like i've established before, needs the kind of painful grit to know she's alive. that's so emo and melodramatic, but there needs to be a challenge or struggle of some sort for lena to exist. smooth sailing through and through would hurt her more than help her.
the point is that there are parallels to their lives that i think are interesting to jump off from, but i also think the dynamic of sinner against sinner, perpetrator and victim, friends to enemies to friends to lovers is so good for them
there are others probably but my brain is mushy now so just send it if you remember it
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rojarias (softball)
…and the superfriends :D (possibly also a softball i dunno)
lmaoo well i love rojarias because they are so very pretty
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if i'm to think about them outside of lena, then here's what i'll say:
despite never sharing any screen time, i like them because there's compatibility there that i like and enjoy. to wit: andrea is a hurt woman who has done her fair share of hurting others. she has made a call in betraying lena to save her father and then the entire thing with leviathan. sam is a hurt woman who has done her fair share of hurting, even if it's in the hands of reign. the compatibility comes in the recognition of the hurt done unto them and the hurt they have done to others, and the subsequent emotions and feelings that come from that. the reality is that they have both been affected by alien/metahuman-like situations that are not necesssarily unique, but uncommon enough to make them a small cohort, you know? additionally, andrea is snarky and sam is bantery and i think they can really volley in a delicious way. i think it would be fun for them. andrea doesn't tolerate incompetence and sam can't tolerate bullshit because she gets enough of it from her preteen. i also think that they exist in similar enough circles via their lines of work that there's not much of an adjustment required to orbit one another. they're business folks, they know how to navigate that landscape with one another.
to sum, i think their relationship succeeds because their personalities and life experiences pull and push into each other really well without one overwhelming the other.
as for in relation to lena:
i think their true beauty lies in their connection to lena. their respective history with lena adds textures to their dynamic with each other. andrea and lena have deep, formative histories with each other. sam and lena have a friendship bond before sam was ever reign, and since reign, i want to believe that it has only been strengthened justice for handsome sam fucking off away and never to be spoken off ever again. so their common ground is a hurt woman who has done her fair share of hurting others (funny how that works out).
all of this to say, there is a certain acknowledgment of who they are and who they are to lena. their dynamic itself would be interesting in that sam would know their history, would know about andrea's betrayal and then the push for reconciliation afterwards. and that andrea sees sam as having usurped her place by lena's side, in some ways. so any friction there is great, whether it's sam being protective and sussing andrea's true intentions or andrea trying to figure out what it is about sam that has made her able to stay lena's champion, etc etc.
as for what i like about the superfriends:
well, for however much i have complicated feelings about them individually and their larger role as judge, jury, and executioners, what i do like is that they are an actual group of friends who like being around one another. and, for however way i feel about the show's abilities to hold an ensemble or not, the superfriends succeed in contextualizing kara in the world of the show.
what i will also say is that i highly enjoy the fact that superfriends is actually an exclusive clique. it is insular and it gives mean girls vibes, honestly to which lena has wanted to join and tries to join, and so it is devastating, narratively, that she isn't included until way way later (if at all, really), but i don't have time for that essay either. and i personally and professionally love this for myself. but also that it's hard not to be exclusive and insular when you're a gang of vigilantes that are meant to fly under the radar and have nobody know what you're doing. like why else would andrea want in on the superfriends if not because she saw them in this kind of light.
i also really like that they play up the roles in friend groups. that's fun to me. or when they get the comedic beats right, it's really fun. when m'gann and j'onn both shapeshifted as kara so she can get to lena's lab across town so lena can make her an anti-kryptonite suit, that's fun. like there's humor there because i think the superfriends is probably some of the best (if not sometimes the only) times that the show pressure releases all the drama and angst.
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