#soooo sorry you have to deal with my 'abrasiveness'
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Wild that you didn't even check your posts before answering this, but okay. My /tone/ is not going to get nicer, so you'll just have to address the /actual content/ of my writing while ignoring the /rudeness/.
In teal you waffle between acknowledging that specific trans communities both deserve and do not deserve to talk about how the misogyny+transphobia of other ppl Uniquely Intersect to affect themselves— an experience that depends on the incongruence between how their body was perceived at birth (xfm) & how society(+the law) at large perceives their gender *now* [the categories being (cis/passing)Man ; (cis/passing)Woman ; & ThingThatIsWrong (any number of derogatory terms)]. Since only perisex cishet men are meant to wield patriarchal privilege within the hegemonic definition of a Real Man— categorically all trans+intersex ppl are excluded whether we consider it 'fair' or not (or whether we 'pass as men' or not). So there is no reason transmisogyny would exist as the only possible intersecting expression of transphobia to be 'worthy' of being discussed with a name, since all trans genders & intersex variations explicitly transgress against their Assigned Patriarchal Hierarchy and are punished in-line with what it decides You Should Be.
In yellow you literally did the exact thing you're saying "you never said". Trans men would not BE trans if they were not also men— the transphobia directly at trans men SPECIFICALLY hinges on their sexual anatomy being 'inferior' in the eyes of patriarchy & unworthy of Maleness, and therefore are all female interlopers + 'corruptors of the male category' (while also being male interlopers + 'traitors to the female cause'). Transandrophobia*(virilmisia/etc.) is still the intersection of misogyny+transphobia bc the ACTUAL WORLD WE LIVE IN overwhelmingly does not see eg.)Pregnant Men as Real Men & having queer & trans-friendly spaces chomping at the bit to find ~Males~ they can abuse 'for not being women (enough)' has routinely hurt every single trans person who did not Pass as 'feminine enough to be trustworthy' regardless of their gender. It is radfem poison & this site is steeped in it.
In red you expose that, no, you have NOT been keeping up with discussions of antiblackness & intersectionality; bc the antiblack racism that Black men experience is in fact held to be **specifically because they are men who are Black** & their specific experiences with racism can not be disentangled from their gender. Misogynoir (& transmisogynoir) were coined BECAUSE discussions of antiblack racism treated cis Black men's experience as the default 'Just Racism' (whether Black women experienced it or not) and the antiblackness that targeted black women *specifically* was being dismissed as Divisive (which was the exact same thing they heard from white feminists whenever they brought up misogyny that was uniquely directed at them) and not worthy of name or discussion (by EITHER group they *allegedly* had to support them— see: transmisogynoir needing to be coined in direct response to transfeminists doing white feminism 2.0).
The rest of your post is not better thought out or particularly compassionate to trans ppl's actual lived experiences irl, frankly. Saying "idk the ~implied~ etymological vibes are bad [bc you erroneously think you can seperate out the andro from the trans; by fundementally misunderstanding what an Intersection is] and also anyways it shouldn't even need a word to gather under [thereby silencing trans masc community discussions & contributing both to furthering transmasc erasure AND reinforcing the anti-feminist bias of treating 'male experiences' as the neutral default & not its own thing] what is this, oppression olympics?? [dismissing+trivializing discussions as just 'Divisive ID Politics' that are already covered under Other Bigotries]" is significantly more insidious than you realize; and I'm not greeting that mentality with ~kind platitudes~.
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TL;DR – ONLY PERISEX CISHET MEN ARE THE STRUCTURAL BENEFACTORS OF PATRIARCHY.
STOP PENALIZING TRANS PPL FOR THEIR ""PERCEIVED ADJACENCY TO MALENESS""/""PERCEIVED DISTANCE FROM FEMININITY""— NO ONE HERE BENEFITS FROM BEING TRANS ONCE IT'S KNOWN THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE.
* R E A D * BLACK GENDER THEORY *BEFORE* USING ITS TERMINOLOGY.
* THIS POST IS NOT ABOUT TRANSFEMINIST THEORY *
I'd like to remind you that "Man" should not be treated as the Default Human Identity— all men have an Intersectional identity inclusive of their gender; that they aren't women/etc. doesn't mean their gender doesn't factor into how oppression axes impact them.
You seem like you missed out on the Masculinities section of Intersectional Feminism— you should fix that before misinforming people on what intersectionality (as a tool for feminist analysis) is used for by claiming that Privileged Positions (white/cis/male/etc.) are somehow not their own "Intersectional Identities" bc they "aren't oppressed".
i very much don’t think that men are non-oppressed? i know that men are oppressed by the patriarchy, in ways that are subtle and often overlooked. men as a whole are oppressed on a societal scale, because the patriarchy oppresses all that are in it. men who are in some way marginalized— queer, non-white, neurodivergent, physically disabled, etc— will have to face this oppression in tandem with the other identity (or identities) for which they are marginalized. this is a fact, and not one i have ever tried to deny?
please don’t put words in my mouth like that. also, in the future, if you disagree with me on a subject, just say that and approach me in good faith. when you come into people’s inboxes with accusations like this (especially on anon), you’re just going to make them want to go on the defensive. i’m not one to get in online arguments, especially not over topics that i explicitly stated i dislike discussing, but being this aggressive with people isn’t going to get you far if you want them to actually hear what you have to say.
#antiblackness#soooo sorry you have to deal with my 'abrasiveness'#but also don't immediately fucking pivot to 'I never said that ever but also I agree with it' followed by tone policing#'tumblr fucking STOP drinking the Misandry!!!GrrlPwr!!! radfem kool-aid' challenge failed for the 15th+ year running#I love being in lesbian spaces & I hate the constant cycle of 'we made lesbian women's seperatism but GOOD this time we prommy'#and what is 'good' about the new iteration is there's a new target of 'sufficiently man enough' to harass out of their own community#same as the other {No He-Him Lesbians No Lesboys No Trans Lesbians No MSpec Lesbians No b4b Lesbians} misogynistic 'male-exclusion' stints#& eventually this ideological ~trend~ is going to be seen with the exact same embarassed 'I never did that' attitude of exclusivity policin#anyways trans theory is made fuller with the 'transandrobro' analysis of powerjacketing & malgendering#intersectionality is entering pop-SJ levels of Not Being Engaged With Critically & is gonna be another Black theory term worn out by misuse#<- the reason behind my tone btw; CRT&cancelled &woke all got fucking misused+twisted by 'pop-theorists' whose new usage supplants the OG#definition— bc the ppl using the terms seemingly refuse to seek out the actual texts+discussion spaces that coined them#tag rant#longpost#shitty feminism#transmisogyny#transphobia#queer theory#virilmisia is even coined by a wellknown transfeminist years ago on twt; so you have no excuse to dismiss it on the basis of 'bad gender ID#transfeminist theory is important; and part of engaging in theory is being able to re-evaluate its conclusions + interrogate its assumption#in an effort to both reaffirm its truths & correct its blindspot biases#like. transmisogynoir has NO REASON to be as ignored in transfem online circles as it currently is—#but the virulent+pervasive antiblack racism on tumblr has cultivated its echo chamber of white feminism & blusky doesn't seem any better#fuck musk for killing twitter; so much was lost
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In a drunken rage as his eyes set at the last person eh wanted to see, Qrow charged Raven, however she wasn't as submissive this time around. She felt no obligation to deal with this pettiness. Had he really came all the way out here to seek her out? This was one thing she wouldn't tolerate from her brother. As she too lunged forward, their blades ready to clatter against each other once again, to her surprise she was met with an unexpected, swift, heavy duty boot to the stomach, kicking her backwards, all the while Qrow's blade clashed with another other than her own. One that was rather sizable, but not as so as Qrow's. An older, salt and pepper haired, rough looking male in sunglasses, a scar running down his right eye, and dressed in a red kimono like robe, and black cloak had blocked the strike and stood in Raven's place. What was more estonishing is how the man's left arm rest in the nook of his vermillion clothing. He was holding back Qrow's attack one handed.
Qrow releases pressure against the other male, and backs up. His gaze drifted over to Raven who sat back and gritted her teeth ready to charge the same man who had blocked his own attack. "What are you doing??? Stay out of this! This is between me and her!" The man approaches, no hesitation in his step. This was enough to make Qrow shrink down a bit, as he took in the stern look that unmasked it's self from behind those dark blue shades. Soon a man who was before hand shorter than Qrow by an inch, was suddenly towering over him. "You will stand donw, soldier. As second in command of this team, that is an order." Hearing the gruff, blunt words of the older looking male was enough to make Raven back off as well. But upon meeting each other's stare again, the twins resorted to a bickering match, one of which was enough to make the people around them roll their eyes in annoyance. "I TOLD YOU TO LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE!" Qrow's words spat out like venom, but Raven's poison was much meaner. "OH PLEASE. I WAS FINALLY CONTENT ENOUGH TO LEAVE YOU TO YOUR SELF PITTYING BULLSHIT, BUT YOU HAD TO FOLLOW ME ALL THE WAY OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF BUMFUCKED NOWHERE-" "ENOUGH! BOTH OF YOU!" The unidentifiable man that they only knew as "Second command" was not the only one to include his two cents. Hei took a step forward, looking at both the twins as they stared at him with shock upon hearing him raise his voice in such an aggressive manner.
"I expected better from both of you, and for you two to act so unprofessionally in my presence before you've even made a name for yourself here? I'm disgusted. Insulted even... Now, I want you to give me a good reason why I shouldn't fire you both right now." A gulp in Qrow's throat, and a shiver up Raven's spine, they stood there dumb struck for a second. If there's one thing the two had in common without realizing it was that they both needed this job, and now it was in danger because of their distain for one another. Qrow was the only one able to muster something up out of the two. "I thought she was stalking me..." Hei's facial expression changed upon hearing Qrow's failure of an explaination to that of disapointment and slight infuriation. "Anything to add to that Raven? I'm still waiting on you." "I thought HE was stalking me!" "AH! NO BICKERING. I'M NOT HERE TO LISTEN TO YOU TWO HAVE A BITCH FEST." Hei thought about their prediciment for a bit before he finally came to the conclusion that this was all just a big misunderestanding. "Okay... So I don't know what's going on with you guys, but I do know one thing. No one is stalking anyone. Raven. I hired you at a work fair event. Qrow... I literally found you as a sad heap of human flesh on a corner, and decided I could probably use you for something. This is just a really terrible couincidence. Anyways, with that cleared up, you two best be getting to solving your issues, and stop trying to kill each other, because GUESS WHAT??? YOU'RE TEAM MATES! AIN'T IT GREAT!?"
Hei's big dorky smile faded as he watched the two cringe at the thought. "Okay, seriously. What's your two's beef? You look like sad, miserable excuses for human beings, and it's annoying the shit out of me." Raven lets out a sigh. "Qrow's my brother. We're twins-" "Ehem, ESTRANGED twins." Qrow cuts Raven off. "She's kind of a bitch." Qrow informs Hei with a snarky smirk on his face "Yeah, yeah. I'm aware. That's why I hired her." Raven glared at both her boss and her brother as they exchanged wise cracks at her expence. "Well, Qrow! I like ya, my guy, but~ yeah, you need to stop crying about how much of a cunt your sister is, and work things out with her. You two are going to have to work together, and the way you two act towards one another is enough to cause a fault in the team dynamic. That's a recipe for disaster." Raven let out yet another exasperated sigh, as she knew Hei was right in this instance. Recklace behavior can lead to death. A disfunctional team can cause that reckless behavior. Not to mention, that soft spot for her brother she had accumulated the past two years still hadn't completely gone away. She turned to Qrow, putting her hand out. "...Truce?" Qrow stared at his sister blankly... "I'll just go get friendly with old man jenkins over there." He says, walking over to the man he had briefly fought. "Hiya, sorry for the rough start. The name's Qrow Branwen, and you are???" "Hmph... If you must know, my name is Auron-" Raven vaguely tuned in the conversation, but soon the realization if how much her attempted kindness failed set in and saltiness began to hit. Ouch... that had to hurt. Raven put her hand down as it had finally picked up on the fact that it's services were no longer needed. "That rough?" Hei's curisiotiy gets the best of him. "I... wasn't the best person when I was alive... Qrow suffered the consequences for it. It's stupid of me to try and force forgiveness... Especially so soon after being reunited." "Give it time Rae. Maybe it's just me, but Qrow doesn't seem like the kind to hold grudges, no matter how hard he tries. He gave me that salty, abrasive attitude as well at first, but I broke the surface. I think he just needs time to see you've changed. Anyways. I have to go prepare for a repeat of the Qrow and Raven show, just with a different cast! I maaay or may not have hired mortal enemies to work together, soooo... yeeeeah. They're likely going to try and kill each other! Now that was intentional... Anyways, take care Rae~" Raven found herself standing there alone, watching as all her presumed co-workers talked amongst themselves. She pulled out a pack of cigs, lighting one, and taking a drag from it to take the edge off. This was her life now. Living with a bunch of strangers, a lunatic, and her resentful brother... This was going to be one hell of a ride...
---To be continued---
More bounty hunter shit, because yes, I enjoy the idea of Qrow and Raven haphazzardly working together on a team full of other bounty hunters.
#rwby qrow#qrow branwen#qrow rwby#qrow#uncle qrow#branwen twins#drunkle qrow#raven branwen#rwby raven
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