#some ppl will openly and proudly make moral judgements about fiction and you can draw conclusions based on that
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Can't get over that time I saw someone whose take on Punishment was "Optimus says that if you punch Nazis it makes you as bad as the Nazis" as opposed to like
"For a stable and peaceful post-war society to exist people will be required to forgive unforgivable things because the alternative is endlessly perpetuating the cycles of hatred and violence. Also it's kind of fucked up to mass murder people especially when they're historically oppressed/working class people who are currently living in slums outside of mainstream society because everyone hates them so much they won't hire or give them housing. Also as the leader of the Autobots Optimus has to hold his own people accountable just as much as he would hold a Decepticon accountable because otherwise that's just blatant bias and bigotry."
#squiggposting#without fail every time i see someone invoke nazism in discussions over fandom shit#it's always the worst take i've ever seen in my life adklfsdljk#honestly fandom (or i guess ppl in general) get so mad when the moral of the story is to not kill people ๐๐๐#cranky bc the author didn't support the righteous punitive justice you desperately wanted huh?#cranky bc there's no clear cut solution that doesn't involve being unfair in some way huh?#but honestly considering some ppl's IRL beliefs i'm absolutely not surprised they act like this in fandom#it's less 'what you like in fiction = your irl morals' and more that like#some ppl will openly and proudly make moral judgements about fiction and you can draw conclusions based on that#and a lot of the time my conclusion is honestly just 'you have no idea how war works tbh'#chronic americentrism cringe and privilege#i stg sometimes it feels like the only way to have intelligent nuanced conversations about fiction is like#to talk to anyone except a usamerican or anglophone in general skdlfjsld
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