#so they become progressively darker and they just kept on taking more L's (some arguably deserved but left them as worse people overall)

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I still hope Quackity and Wilbur's arcs feature a moment where people just... leave them-

Specifically Tommy for Wilbur, I think Tommy leaving or turning against him would be the cause of a huge turning point for the character. Now Wilbur is a very tragic figure who has suffered a lot, but this doesn't excuse the fact that he treats Tommy very poorly, he does things seemingly without thinking too much about how his words and actions will affect the teen. Because he thinks Tommy wont leave, when Tommy considers siding with Las Nevada's Wilbur starts getting more aggressive and guilts Tommy into staying with him. He needs him, out of everyone Tommy was the one who never left his side for any reason aside from Wilbur's death. Tommy has stuck with him during his worse, he's not gonna leave now... right? Maybe for now, they have a weird sort of codependency going on, they both crave some stability in their lives but that constant is hurting Tommy and enabling Wilbur's more venomous traits, but I think doubt is starting to grow within Tommy. Tommy leaving is gonna hurt him a lot and it might make things worse before they get better but ultimately I think it would benefit the both of them.

Same applies to Q and the Las Nevadas peeps. Like as much as I have been on a meta-level enjoying watching the LN Crew grow closer with each other the fact that its founded on Q's lies and manipulation doesn't sit well with me. It's such a messy affair because on a surface level it's refreshing to see c!Quackity show shades of his former self and bond with these people but then you remember why they are even around him in the first place and just... :/ Even seeing the LN Crew bond with each has that sinister underlying feeling (almost cult-like sometimes? A little? ) They deserve to stand up and call him out for his BS. Quackity's a tough character to pin down because some of his manipulation bleeds in and out of genuine and he is growing closer with the others, but you can genuinely love someone and still be fucking awful to them (just like Wil with Tommy.) You can say you want someone to do something for their own sake when really it's just what you want them to do and you've simply deluded yourself too. Out of all of them I think if Slime ever leaves him that would be the one to hurt him the most. Or fuck it maybe even Sam whose stuck by Quackity the longest. If Las Nevadas is going to end in any way I would prefer this somber lonely death. Again it's going to hurt Quackity a lot, especially given how much of his self worth is tied to Las Nevadas in general but that's precisely why he needs this loss. It's reflective of the person he's become, charming and charismatic on the outside but cold and deceptive inside, planning and benefitting from their losses and suffering and convincing them he's just trying to help- sure maybe they'll hit a jackpot but can it make up for how much they've lost? But without anyone to benefit off of Las Nevadas is powerless, it can't sustain itself without people to prey off of. It's hollow. I really hope we get a moment where he reflects on how he's fallen from season 2 Quackity who, while he had his fair share of faults, most shinning trait was that he couldn't stand letting injustice slide and that lead to him standing up against Dream armed with his cunning and words (not needing to resort to brutal torture), from season 1 Quackity who challenged Wilbur in the first place because he didn't agree with an unfair election and genuinely wanted what was best for L'manberg, who put his foot down and turned against Schlatt when he couldn't stand by him any longer and fought back against him despite not being well-trained in combat, he wanted to help even if it had to be in a way that was disadvantages for him. Yes there are similarities to how he is now to other characters but he hasn't become the next 'Wiblur' or 'Schlatt' or 'Dream', he's become the kind of person his past self would've stood up against.

c!Wil and c!Q are very sad people and I feel for them, they have been heavily warped by grief and tragedy, but ,,, man do they need some wake-up calls