#so please correct me if anything i've said is wrong or insensitively phrased

[lonely-t0wn]

What do you mean by disgusting fanbase Justine? Genuine question, I'm new to the Victim-hood!! 🙏🏽As in conservative tr*mp fans? 🤮

Ok this is going to be long, i’m sorry. I’m putting it under a cut but the TL;DR version is this: 

A lot of people feel that TK’s response to the blm movement has not been enough, and they have been met with hostility from other fans in response. Being a fan does not mean blindly following and loving every single thing the band says and does. People who call them out when they make a mistake can still be fans and are speaking from a place of love. It is absolutely disgusting to me that predominately white fans are trying to silence the voices of fans of color and are ignoring the legitimate pain and anger they feel right now. The job of white allies right now is to listen to the voices of POC, especially Black voices--even if that means taking a hard, critical look at yourself or people you look up to and are a fan of. TK’s lack of addressing the issue adequately has fostered a fanbase that believes attacking fans for criticizing the band is ok. It’s not. Something needs to be done.

TK obviously have a very large white fanbase--there are memes and jokes about it, but it is unarguably true. Many fans tend to be conservative, possibly in part due to the band’s very clean-cut attitude. I think a lot of the more extreme conservative fans left after the band released Land of the Free in January 2019, as it addressed a lot of issues in the USA such as gun violence/mass shootings, racial discrimination, and the penitentiary system. The band faced some backlash from right-wing fans who were upset that the band was “getting political.” Obviously I can’t speak for what other people feel/believe, but i think it’s safe to say there are still plenty of right-wingers in the fanbase. 

Over the last few weeks a lot of very...uh i guess intense, to put it nicely, fans who are unable and unwilling to look at their faves critically have exhibited some deeply upsetting behavior towards anyone speaking up about TK’s very lackluster response to the black lives matter movement, especially Black fans and non-Black fans of color. 

More recently, a lot of fans have spoken up about the watered-down response to the blm movement that TK has shown. Many of these fans are POC, and while sometimes their comments have been blunt and are clearly coming from a place of frustration and anger, they have been completely justified. Instead of listening to what these fans are saying, many (white) fans have attacked them, yelled at them, belittled their concerns, and accused them of “harassing” and “bullying the band” and not being “real fans” for criticizing the band. It’s been very ugly.

Before TK made their LotF video with updated lyrics that reflect Georg Floyd’s death, a former backup singer (a Black woman) tweeted that it should not be surprising that some bands hadn’t said anything with regard to the blm movement yet, and that she ended up leaving a tour with a band she worked with because she received racially insensitive comments. She then listed several musicians she has worked with who HAVE made it clear they stand with the blm movement, and TK was not one of them. Many fans speculated that TK was the band she received poor treatment from, but it was never confirmed. Now that singer’s Twitter account has been suddenly suspended. I don’t want to make any accusations, since we literally do not know what happened, but based on some of the attitudes i’ve seen, it is certainly possible that these rabid fans who are angry at people for criticizing TK might have mass reported her and gotten Twitter to suspend her account. That is still just speculation though and has not been confirmed. It could have been the result of someone at the record company or any number of other possibilities, we just don’t know right now. 

All we know is that a lot of people feel that TK’s response has not been enough, and they have been met with hostility in response. Being a fan does not mean blindly following and loving every single thing the band says and does. People who call them out when they make a mistake can still be fans and are speaking from a place of love. It is absolutely disgusting to me that predominately white fans are trying to silence the voices of fans of color and are ignoring the legitimate pain and anger they feel right now. The job of white allies right now is to listen to the voices of POC and especially Black voices--even if that means taking a hard, critical look at yourself or people you look up to and are a fan of. TK’s lack of addressing the issue adequately has fostered a fanbase that believes attacking fans for criticizing the band is ok. It’s not. Something needs to be done.

[exclamaquest]

It's come to my attention there's a few posts circulating around about me. I'd really appreciate it if people took the time to read this before blindly believing unsubstantiated claims made against me by people who were mad at me in the past for unrelated issues.

My ask box and DMs are open, and I'm more than willing to answer any questions and take any feedback anyone may have!

First, I admit I was wrong to post hate in the tags. I am sorry, and I shouldn't have done that. I removed the tag a while ago, but I should have made the apology beforehand. Again, I should not have done that, I will not do it in the future, and I'm sorry.

Now, onto the posts. These are just two of them.

Again, my inbox and DMs are open if anyone has any questions or wants any more clarification. I'm more than happy to explain anything I've said in further detail, or to answer any questions.

I'd like to make it clear that i'm by no means "playing the victim", nor did I ever make an "insensitive joke". Nothing I said was a joke. I'm more than willing to share screenshots (see below the cut) of what happened and elaborate on my opinions so that people can draw their own conclusions, and I will at the end of this post.

What I said was that Shinguuji was never canonically abused and that I was uncomfortable with the implication Miu is into incest. i respect that people have different opinions and interpretations of his character, but it's shitty to equate me saying i'm uncomfortable with the implication that miu is ALSO into incest by comparing her with korekiyo with me supporting it.

i'd heavily suggest people re-read his free time events. Again, Korekiyo was at no point canonically abused. It's not me "being shitty" or "playing the victim" to say that. I've posted a longer explanation here.

Again, I'm not saying any conflicting interpretations are bad. We really don't have a whole lot of evidence either way! However, it's wrong to act like he was canonically abused by his sister and to force that perception onto others and delete the takes you disagree with.

WRT the kink thing: Kinks do not have to be moral or healthy. The word is a neutral descriptor for something someone is into. There are plenty of immoral kinks, and plenty of kinks that are EXTREMELY unhealthy to feed into. Korekiyo is into incest. That is a fact. It is not a moral kink. In fact, it is disgusting and genuinely reprehensible. It's something that needs professional help. I do not condone it by any means. I do not support it. However, that does not stop it from being a kink. I also never "equat[ed] his abuse with a kink" because again, I don't think he was canonically abused to the fanon degree. (Which, again, is not backed up in canon. While the interpretation is valid, I was discussing specifically canon.)

HERE IS THE POST EXPLAINING MY TAKE ON KOREKIYO IN MORE DETAIL.

Also, I do not "cancel people for no reason". I'd love to see an example of that, as I try to back up any claims I make with sources and explanations so there is no confusion. However, I assume OP is referring to my H/ttey post. That was made to raise awareness of the bigotry in his art that he refused repeatedly to correct. Unlike these posts, there were screenshots and links to back up what I said.

I am not a bully, and i am always open to feedback on my actions and on how to improve. I'll drop all the screenshots I have here at the end of the section under the cut and people can make up their own minds.

SCREENSHOTS

I recognize that I did not phrase things as well as I could have, especially the last thing I said (While it is not an excuse by any means, I was in a very emotional state by my abuse being denied just because I have a different opinion than the majority fanon). I take full accountability for that. However, please note me getting banned directly after saying I was dropping the topic (of Korekiyo) for calling the mod out on their misuse of mod powers to shut down takes they disagree with.

THEIR RESPONSE IN ANOTHER SERVER