#so i wonder if the reason marina hova gets top billing (so to speak LMAO) is bc she was the inspiration

[chikkou]

some ppl are bringing up the fact that lisa is based off austins ex gf as a sort of gotcha bc he said lisa is the worst person and since his dumber fans usually take that to mean "brad and buzzo did nothing wrong it was all lisa's fault bc she is an evil manipulative demon :((" they think austin agrees w/ those takes and that austin thinks his ex gf is some sort of psycho. i figure u would know for sure, but didn't he say that about just the first lisa game? like wasn't that before he even had the idea to combine lisa with his new post apocalypse rpg? i could've swore he said something about how he just thought that the way memories can haunt people fascinated him, and that he developed an interest in that subject bc his ex gf was haunted by memories of her abusive father?

yeah, ur right - the influence that was drawn from his ex gfs experience was concentrated solely to the first. i dont doubt he mightve pulled some concepts from that experience for the painful, but as you mentioned, he never even intended to make a lisa sequel and the painful was originally going to be a completely unrelated game, but clearly the idea of lisa got caught in his mind and so he expanded on it.

with regards to lisa being "the worst," i do put the blame on austin for wording his tweet very poorly, but he did later clarify that he meant that she has had the most negative impact on the world, which is true tbh. buzzo does try to blame lisa as hes dying, but frankly i think this is him being unreliable and telling himself a lie. buzzos entire character arc has been passing the buck for his own guilt onto someone else; he blames brad for lisas death, even though he had a minimal role in it, and tortures dustin for it, even though he was COMPLETELY innocent. so it doesnt seem that off the wall to me that he would then pin the blame for everything on lisa herself, even though everything he did after her death was 100% his fault. remember that the lisa we're seeing isnt the real one, just his twisted memories of her. i think if the joyful had been made a full game, this wouldve been much clearer to the player, but i think some people really just overlooked that completely LMAO

taking it back to the ex-gf aspect, austin was very level & empathetic in the interview where he talked about the inspiration from his ex gf; he didnt try to speak for her or assume anything about her experience, and he was very vague about in what way the father was abusive, so i think he was being about as respectful as he could be. we also dont know that lisa is actually based on the ex gf; the direct inspiration was specifically that his ex gf was haunted by memories of her fathers abuse, so it couldve been completely different circumstances and she very likely was a completely different person from lisa.

there are valid criticisms to make about the games, like quite a few LMAO, but honestly i dont think this in particular is one of them