#so i assume July bc of the timeskip

[unxpctedlygreat]

My attempts at figuring out birthdays tell me:

Holst: Between May 18th and July 24th

Monica : Between February 28th and March 14th

Rodrigue: Between June 5th and August 31st, but likely July?

(I made spreadsheets with everyone's ages in Hopes through the chapters but my thinking might have gotten wrong somewhere so take it with a grain of salt)

[lemongogo]

so if timeskip stampede s2 is fr are u telling me we can possibly get millie and eriks + og vash designs . ..

[dittomander]

I know you said that Isabel was an August birthday, but do we get any other hints to the birthdays of the other characters? Naomi is the only character who gets a birthday episode (Elena too, if you count “Coronation Day”).

we do get a few other clues! they're of varying degrees of comprehensiveness:

Elena we know has a summer birthday. the show starts early in Sofia's summer vacation, and the whole "four years until Elena is of-age to be queen" thing is counted from there. If we assume that everyone ages up for the special episodes, that would put Elena's birthday sometime in August after Isa's, since Isa would need to turn 14 before Elena turned 20. If we assume the whole "special episodes mean a year has passed and everyone ages up" thing is just a generalization and not an exact timeline measure (which is probably the case, considering the Carnaval situation), then Elena's birthday could potentially be earlier in the summer, too. Word of God says that Elena is a Leo, which would put her birthday roughly between July 23rd and August 22nd.

Esteban gets a birthday episode in Island of Youth early in the show. This episode takes place sometime between the start of the show and Día de los Muertos, which puts it sometime in the pretty wide range of late June/early July (depending on how long it took the Enchancians to get to Avalor, how long it took for them to pack up and leave after the Shuriki thing, etc.) and November 2nd. Also according to Word of God, Esteban was already the older cousin pre-timeskip by a little bit, which suggests that his birthday is before Elena's in the calendar year. It could still be afterward, but then he would be older than her by almost a year, which I personally feel is a bit longer than "a little bit."

Naomi's birthday episode takes place sometime between King of the Carnaval (late February/early March) and Realm of the Jaquins (1 year since First Day of Rule, so presumably late June/early July). It's the immediate next episode after KotC, which suggests to me that it's earlier in that time range, but in any case, Naomi having a spring birthday seems pretty clear cut.

We can maaaaybe make a guess at Mateo's birthday based off the whole "we go to school together" thing but it requires a lot of assumptions, so bear with me for a second here. If we assume that:

"we go to school together" means that Mateo and Naomi are in the same class, and not just they see each other in passing sometimes

students in Avaloran schools are grouped by year and a given class will only contain students from the same year

Naomi and Mateo are both in the correct year for their age (that is, Naomi didn't skip any grades and Mateo never got held back)

it's possible to defer a child's starting school year if they're born late enough in the school year

and Mateo actually is 16 at the start of the show and doesn't just turn 16 at some point early enough in the show to count as that age prior to RotJ

...then that puts Mateo's birthday somewhere in the range between "late in the school year" and whenever the show starts, which would mean he has a late spring/early summer birthday, and is also probably one of the oldest kids in his grade. Like, for all of the above to be true, Mateo would've had to be born pretty late in the school year, bc otherwise why wouldn't he just be in the grade above Naomi?

But if any of those assumptions are false then Mateo's birthday just becomes a toss-up lol, so it's not exactly a likely range. Like it could really just be anywhere in the year. Kind of like Gabe, who is the only member of the core 6 whose birthday we don't get any kind of clues about whatsoever. I usually hc his birthday as being in late fall/early winter just because someone in this cast has to have a birthday that isn't in the spring or summer.

So, in summary:

Elena - summer birthday. anywhere in the Leo range, but probably in August, after Isa's

Isa - August birthday

Esteban - most likely a mid-summer birthday, before Elena's

Naomi - spring birthday, possibly pretty early in the season

Mateo - maaaybe a late spring/early summer birthday. Maybe.

Gabe - who knows honestly, I hc late in the year to balance all the summer birthdays out

Fun fact! These birthday ranges would also suggest that Elena and Isa actually skipped their birthdays their first summer out of stasis. KotC says Lucía wore a particular bracelet on Isa's tenth birthday, but for Isa to be 11 years, 3 months, etc. in Three Jaquins and a Princess, then that means her 10th birthday should have actually passed the previous August. This was after the start of the show, so Lucía couldn't have been there. Otherwise, the 10th birthday thing is just an error, and Isa actually started the show at 9, turning 10 shortly after.