#so he stays always unsure and hurting! and obviously kdj isnt his only focus. but hes always there somewhere
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you are so so right and wise always thank you for this post and your perspective on this matter
Ramble about why i dont really like interpretations of kdj as like somehow weaker than or needing to be onesidedly taken care of by kcom or yjh. Obvi this is just me having an interp and not really having a taste for certain other interps and then rambling about it on my tumblr dot com blog
i feel like one of the big appeals of the relationship between kdj and his crew is that theyre all strong people who are dedicated to each other, and that sense is taken away from by narratives that focus on kdj being like physically weak or innocent or something like that.
i think for me theres also that association that comes to mind when like that kind of kdj interp is put up against a still buff and stoic yjh of like fu**shis having to put like that kind of power dichotomy between men theyre trying to fe**shize because it exists in most of the BL media targetted at them and parallels toxic messages from het media theyve already internalized.
Theres also just like the fact that fans of east asian media have a tendency to infantalize the asian characters in it (and even carrying over to real east asian people) and because its a real issue that makes me uncomfortable its hard for me to enjoy content thats like “uwu poor baby needs to be taken care of” about a grown ass korean man in his thirties.
obviously thats not to say that men have to be completely emotionally unimpeachable or anything? (I dont have that much internalized toxic masculinity) I just think that something that makes characters like kdj yjh (and hsy and jhw and.., i could list maybe the whole company) interesting and dynamic is that they often have that standard for themselves in their idea of being “strong,” and managing to live up to it most of the time is what makes like hurt/comfort an emotional event instead of lacking that standard making the opposite a change to the character’s personality.
also something that annoys me about like interps that make kdj like ... ugh gross word but the cishets have forced my hand - “subservient” in his relationship with yjh is that its just not like... accurate. Theyre dynamic is just like... so much more than that, especially if we’re talking about 3rd regression yjh specifically. Theyre constantly in this bizarre equilibrium where theyre each viewing the other as someone so much stronger than themself, someone who saved their life, someone who theyre able to live for now, and also they are both completely oblivious to the fact that thats how the other views them. This is very important.
also this is just me actually but i think even tho yjh is like technically older than kdj its funny that kdj was born the year before him so he’ll always be a year older. So write that down.
very important to also note that theyre like indeterminably both older and younger than one another because time so like dynamics where one of them is junior to the other just feel so ooc to me tbh.
ok. TLDR; inherently homophobic fu**shi favored tropes and racist infantilization play into my dislike of the idea of kdj being a junior to or weaker than yjh, but my main issue stems from considering it ooc due to my own interpretation of them relying on the fact that they each see each other as a goal to strive for, someone better than them, and in a way that makes them equals, also i am gay.
PS (post script) if you dont understand the last few paragraphs of this post watch an ace attorney letsplay. take some notes and get back to me after
#((JAY YOU DONT NEED TO READ THIS; JUST KNOW THAT YOURE ALWAYS RIGHT AND I THANK YOU FOR THIS POST))#yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so so true and important#so often i see kdj interpreted as weaker and '''subservient''' like you said or almost as a blushing shojo schoolgirl#when to me its so removed from canon... and sometimes i wonder whether im the only one not okay with this. but thankfully thats not the cas#maybe im paranoid but ive blocked and often avoid sharing posts by orv fans that even just give me fujo vibes. i dont trust anyone#i usually think that kdc are these people who were allowed to get very strong but the person they want to protect is still so much stronger#and even those extremely strong people feel powerless when facing a person with this unfair advantage; mysterious and unpredictable#and its the same with dokhyuk: its yjhs 3rd turn; hes already extremely powerful and bc of that ppl are obedient to him and he gets what he#wants mostly. but then kdj shows up yjh has to change his plans and worldview and approach bc of this new guy.#hes weird he knows more than he should he wont die hes dangerous AND HE CARES ABOUT HIM APPARENTLY.#and that must be a big shock to him! i always interpreted yjh as the one in a more vulnerable position and its so weird that others dont#ok im so sorry but ive also been thinking abt this for a while so im gonna ramble some more#anyways. for his comrades kdj is unreachable and frustratingly secretive (always conspiring and planning his own demise) and a god#they WISH hed let them take care of him they WISH he was '''subservient''' bc maybe then theyd be able to convince him to act reasonably#but thats not how he is!!!! hell always find a way to shift it another way around!!! hes somehow always the one in control.#they cant save him because thats not his plan and he always gets what he wants. hell protect them and repay them even when it hurts.#AND back to dokhyuk: yjh is in a more vulnerable position also because hes so confused i think bc he thought hed have to suffer and grieve#and lock away his feelings and be forced to forever try to reach the end and then infuriating kdj arrives and brings hope#that yjh didnt allow himself to feel before. but maybe this time itll work; this guy knows what hes doing; maybe he can rely on this person#AND THEN HE DIES and that hope is lost again. but then he lives then he dies and he can never be sure#but at this point hes so entangled in this whole matter and with kdc that he cant ever truly leave even if he wants to#so he stays always unsure and hurting! and obviously kdj isnt his only focus. but hes always there somewhere#he was allowed to care and love and rely on someone once more and so now its difficult to stop caring completely again#ok im gonna stop myself right there bc i could write incomprehensible tags under a pals post all day but thatd be annoying#only one more thing. i guess on a more personal level i hate this interpretation of kdj because i really relate to him a lot#and since im trans its so disgusting to see him depicted as ''''the woman in the relationship'''' and all of those fetishizations#& stereotypes it really makes me draw back from the fandom often#okay that might just be some leftover internalized toxic masculinity or whatever bc trans people dont need to behave in any way just bc the#re trans and they can be ''stereotypical'' all they want bc its not stereotypical! its just people living their own lives how they want#i just have issues and project too much AND I THINK I JUST REACHED 30 TAGS. JAY I AM SO SORRY
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