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THE DOKJA CAMEO IN WORLD AFTER THE FALL 😭😭😭
#my beloved hamster#strangles him (lovingly)#his cute lil blush 🥺#maturing is realizing that the real babygirl was kim dokja all along#shoves yjh to the side#dokja my beloved#sol.txt
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im a genius i think
[ID: two rows of five sketchy rectangle thumbnails labeled 'awesome orv body pillow concepts (by oli nblemons)' at the top, each given a little title. in order are:
'SP + kkomas'; the secretive plotter posed on his side and half buried in the kkomas that fill up the rest of the space.
'world's most sexless YJH'; yoo joonghyuk standing stiffly with a tired expression and his sword in hand.
'YHK (all at once)'; yoohankim all piled up on each other to fit in the narrow space of the pillows proportions, with han sooyoung on top and stretching like a smug cat, kim dokja under her fighting for his life, and yoo joonghyuk barely visible but looking pissed.
'KDJ cringe'; kim dokja holding a (much sexier) body pillow of yoo joonghyuk and looking startled, like hes been caught.
'angel fujoshi'; uriel smiling happily as she shoves two plushies of kim dokja and yoo joonghyuk together to make them kiss.
'kyrgios'; a very tiny stickman with a sword that barely takes any space on the pillow.
'LHS crucifixion moment (ft JHW carry)'; two sketches that show both sides of lee hyunsung attached to a cross, with crossed out eyes, being carried on jung heewon's back. shes holding her sword and looks angry. an arrow between the two indicates that they are each a side of the pillow
'999 (ft dumpling form)'; also two sketches, one of the 999th turn yoo joonghyuk posing seductively (and exactly as seen on the pillow kim dokja held in a previous sketch), and the other a big dumpling with an eyepatch. the same arrow as before separates them. /end ID]
#orv#orv spoilers#NOT tagging the characters there too many and this is stupid#anyway. do you see the vision (silly)#oli's art
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yjh's plan to sacrifice himself in the conclusion of the dark castle arc is such an excellent scene. it does fantastic character work in showing that the yjh of the present is NOT AT ALL the person kdj typically perceives him as, but is instead someone who cares for others to the point of self-sacrifice. rather than believing only in his own abilities, yjh now believes entirely in kdj and the rest of his companions, and trusts that they will be able to carry this world to its conclusion even once yjh is no longer in it. he's okay giving up on this timeline, knowing that his companions will care for it in his stead. he even is intuitive enough to anticipate kdj's worry that the world will disappear without yjh, and goes out of his way to obtain the correct information to reassure him. all of these are character traits that he has had all along, of course, but they've been brought to the surface BECAUSE of his interactions with kim dokja. and of course kdj himself can't see it very clearly. all of this being shown to the reader gives us very critical information to understanding both characters!
but of course, there's also a secondary purpose this scene serves to the narrative. up until now, since we are tied to kim dokja's first-person narration, we have only really seen one side of similar sacrifice scenarios. we see kdj's internal reasoning for sacrificing himself and the steps he takes to ensure his companions are as safe as possible in the process. these events are excellent at showcasing both the willing sacrifice's selflessness and their cleverness. (there are cracks of course in both for kdj, but that's much more apparent later in the novel.) the internality of a willing sacrifice is fascinating!
but because we're tied so thoroughly to his perspective, and given that he is a guy pretty good at not thinking about stuff that bothers him, we're somewhat insulated from the pain those sacrifices cause the people who he tries to save. we see characters crying and he does sit with their pain a little, but it's fundamentally from an outsider's perspective. it's almost like a punch in the face to be on the receiving end of that kind of event! yjh talking relatively gently while addressing kdj's worry that the world will disappear... it makes it worse, not better! his caring makes losing him so much more painful than it otherwise would be!
it makes the audience feel differently about kim dokja's behavior up until now. and, just as importantly, it shoves a conflict in kdj's face that he will be dealing with for the rest of the novel. receiving salvation from someone sacrificing themself, when you'd do anything to make sure they survived, is incredibly painful. he's just finished dealing with that problem with his own mother and now he's on the receiving end of his own behavior in a FAR more pointed way.
so what does he do next?
try and sacrifice himself for the sake of the party, of course. goddamn it.
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omniscient reader's viewpoint liveblog day 2 😅 (chs. 2-6: ep. 1 - starting the paid service)
i'm going to take notes as i go for the first 120 chapters or so since i've already read it before (and also sort of re-read them via the webtoon and various fanfic)
completely forgot about the world after fall plug looool. i need catch up with the webtoon at some point for that one
kdj is so freaking awkward talking about himself and his hobbies, it's painful. compared to how he never shuts up later, it shows how comfortable he's gotten with kimcom. how uncomfortable he was with anyone in the before times
i think he's....dissassociating? has trouble mentally staying present? either way, ysa had to address him 3 times before he answered a simple question about language app, damn. this bitch is Not Alright
kdj uses 'ruined' as a search term, not 'survival' or 'survive' when looking for twsa. that's a habit, so he likely did that the first time he was searching for novels too, huh.....
when a train stops for me, i think 'mechanical issues' or 'security incident', not 'suicide'. i can't tell if this is a cultural thing or a kdj thing or both, but in any case not a good sign of mental health that that's his first and only guess
killing anyone who outwardly rebelled against the dokkaebi...pretty smart in establishing dominance tbh. and it means that any surviving incarnations are either going to be too scared to protest or too smart to voice their opinions outloud and potentially incite other incarnations into rebelling
"If you want to enjoy happiness, it is common sense to pay a price." - 😬
'Department Head Han pulled out his business card as people cheered him on.' - this was very 'and everyone stood up and clapped' energy, but irl, crying
'Finally, I slowly controlled my breathing.' -meaning he wasn't controlling his breathing before? a point in favour of kdj having therapy in the before times, but idk. i feel like kdj DOESN'T have 4th wall yet. he's not 100% chill about the scenarios happening......it's suspicious that he's actually narrating his emotional reactions at this point and having to work at being calm instead of just telling himself to calm down
i didn't expect or remember that matrix ref lol. now all i can picture is hsy shoving the red pill down kdj's mouth and telling him to wake the fuck up
lhs.....so earnest..................also pretty sure the seoul dome doesn't go up until after the 1st scenario is complete if lhs is still getting messages on his phone
with all these political assassinations...i wonder if the dokkaebi got rid all of the nuclear weapons and such too. just to make sure they don't interfere the scenarios. bihyung's comments show that some research can be done and the existence of the disaster of questions is proof the dokkaebis have observed earth for at least some time now. the 4th and 5th scenarios were designed too specifically not have had extensive research beforehand
'Subconsciously, I made a fist using all my strength.' - that one arthur meme 😂
ljh ...... 😭😭😭😭😭
'confused for a moment' 'stunned for a moment' - HIGHKEY BELIEVING HE DOESN'T HAVE 4TH WALL
interesting that kdj doesn't even think of opening his attribute window until after he gets his mysterious attribute (maybe 2nd?).....almost like he didn't have the 4th wall to help him block his profile and also calm him down enough to think of it beforehand...............
if yjh is in car 3707....and the rest of the gang are in 3807.....who the fuck is the pale guy mentioned to be in 3907? throwaway line? typo? side story tie-in?????
knw......i know thematically he has to die here but also goddamn it would have been so funny to have him tag along and become part of kimcom. kdj picking up all the teen rivals lol
"Think carefully. The world you have known so far has just ended." - pretty sure kdj says something similar later. ~thematic parallels~ .....also i need to find that teen!kdj au fic as soon as i finish reading the novel, i have been dying to read it
...poor grandmother. what an awful way to live your last few minutes before you die.
kdj would have been so fucked if this wasn't a round where yjh killed everyone in his car with an explosion.
lgy is crying, oh nooooooo 😭😭😭😭
'The locusts and grasshoppers were jumping around in the collection net.' - insects, not just grasshoppers. this coupled with knw's uniform makes me think it's late summer/early fall....i need to lookup the korean school calendar later to be sure, but i don't get the impression it'll be winter anytime soon
'Right now, I was facing the explosive madness that tried to kill the grandmother yet a smile emerged on my face. Why? Even in this breathtaking tension, why was my heart beating with joy?' - adrenaline and having control for the first time in your life maybe
i always wondered who the 2nd constellation wanting knw was........
also wondering if knw would have joined the military asap after finishing school
man wouldn't it have been so funny if one of the grasshopper eggs slipped out of kdj's hand and knw stepped on it and he passed the 1st scenario anyway???
i know knw is a total homicidal weirdo ....but he didn't have to go like that 🥺
kdj doesn't recognize his own face....doesn't notice there's no actual blood on it......feels like he's looking at a novel......is it dissassociation, the 4th wall, or maybe it's maybelliene
'…And I was the only reader who knew the ending of this world.' - what a dramatic ending to those chapters. fitting as well!
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ok i lied i’m making it now.
anyway pov you are getou suguru, twenty-eight, and the only thing that’s kept you from snapping and committing a felony at your place of work that you fucking hate is the webnovel equivalent of pulp. it sucks so bad that you are the only reader, but no matter what, it just draws you back in, over and over again. you’ve been reading it since you were fifteen and you could barely stand the protagonist at first, but he’s grown on you like mold. he’s cocky and ruthless and fun to read about, even if he’s a little cliché. you’ve been waiting for the conclusion of the novel for a long-ass time, and the day it’s scheduled to drop, it…doesn’t. instead you get a dm, and then the world fucking ends. you realize with a start that it’s familiar. you have been isekai’d, reverse-isekai’d, isekai’d sideways while rolling down the highway in a loose tire, and then you hear gojou fucking satoru, protagonist, blowing a hole in the side of the next subway car. what the fuck. is this your life forever now. before the day ends you have thrown a punch at your childhood blorbo and he has dropkicked you off the side of a building. you survive. you will beat his ass.
anyway jokes and jests aside getou’s mindset after riko’s death is something that i could see translating really interestingly into kdj’s role, especially early on. he’s depressed and angry and resentful towards the world, but riko isn’t dead (here, at least; i was serious when i said she and sys would go really well), he hasn’t been carrying the mantle of “the strongest” around, and he still has a very strong moral code throughout canon—it just. uh. changes forms, to put it extremely generously—so here, he’d probably still strive to do what he perceives to be The Right Thing, which could be comparable to kdj’s stupid fucking savior complex. i’m not sure how he would approach his knowledge of what’s going to happen according to the story vs how kdj would or how jjk’s world could be neatly integrated into orv’s premise with scenarios without making it a copy of orv, but he could absolutely pull off some of the bullshit that kdj (and, for that matter, hsy) does with a straight face. also, kdj’s ability to cobble together stories and a whole-ass body for himself reminds me of how getou’s technique grows and changes with the curses he eats, so i’m jotting that down too.
my thoughts on gojou are a lot more straightforward. ridiculously op protagonist with massively destructive abilities, etc etc, but yjh being, as i said, hellbent on bringing down the star stream reminds me a lot of gojou’s hatred of the higher ups and the flaws in jujutsu society. gojou is less likely to try and brute force his way through every obstacle (he still can; don’t get me wrong), though, and his desire to protect people/live up to his role as The Strongest/preserve youth is actually something i associate closer to kdj. that being said, i can see him regressing over and over to see the conclusion and Fix Things very easily and it’d be really interesting to see how the whole shebang with 41!sys, secretive plotter, and the other outer gods plays out, especially given the way he seems to approach grief in canon.
shouko. man. shouko. i think about that line where hsy calls joongdok bastards during the final scenario fight and how they never tell her anything a lot, and then i think about shouko saying that she was there too, and then i throw up. but shouko’s neutrality during the kfc breakup is something i think is so interesting and i think could play a part in the whole good and evil scale that orv has going on, especially when they start to mess with it, and i think it says a lot about her, too. i think that, when push comes to shove and she’s run out of options, i could see her adopting something of 1863!hsy’s role—stepping up and finding her own conclusion when the protagonist goes awol and then, later, writing the things she’s lost and clawing at them to bring them back to her. i think her grief is quiet for a long time before it boils over, and that’s when she starts destroying universes. in a similar vein, like i said, i think it’s SO neat that she’s one of the few people we know with a reverse cursed technique that can be used on other people and how she works in a morgue. she’s the beginning and the end, and she could create and destroy worldline after worldline and start and finish the story. and she’s a doctor. her job is to save people. what else should she have done, seeing one of her closest friends as a teenager in a hospital bed?
in conclusion i’m obsessed with trios and the fact that the three of them are a Set never fails to make me want to eat drywall. i have more thoughts on this but it’s also almost 3:30 and i have work in the morning
jjk orv au sashisu inspired by yoohankim. gojou, the protagonist. shouko, the writer. getou, the reader.
this story is for that one reader. tell me you fool. i want to live in a big house with everyone. getou as kim dokja with his patchwork vessel found in the dumpster in the industrial complex arc. swapping names. we’re the strongest. gojou as the unstoppable protagonist hellbent on bringing down the stars. oldest dream arc. shouko as han sooyoung, director of the false last act. the fuckingn story repair scenes. everything begins and ends with them DO YOU UNDERSTAND. DO YOU UNDERSTAND. ARE YOU PICKING UP WHAT I AM PUTTING DOWN ARE YOU SEEING WHAT I AM SHOWING YOU
#autism activated. suffer the consequences#longish post#also disclaimer i still have six chapter of orv left to go because i’m Scared#sashisu#riko.txt#orv
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Hsy and Yjh have been friends for years. Their friendship continued through college and initially started bc yjh wanted to develop a game. He found out that hsy knew some basics and could write good stories.
He ended up approaching her and they started making plans. Yjh made concept art for the story hsy had written and they worked on figuring out how they would actually develop their game.
Eventually they finish the game. By this time it has been years and the story and art are detailed, but something goes wrong. Hsy believes it was a corrupted file, but neither of them are sure what really happened.
What they did know, however, is that they ended up in their own game and now they needed to get out without dying at the hands of the queen. Bc of course their luck landed them in the final boss's castle.
They hide and run around to avoid the queen's guards. What they forgot was that the castle itself was alive in a sense. It deemed them to be outsiders, intruders and alerted the guards of their existence.
In a strike of bad luck, some guards spot them and they run. Somehow they end up losing each other and hsy ends up in a room. In that room she meets princess ysa.
Hsy remembers building her character, writing the little details about her and the art yjh made of her. She was beautiful and looked just as deadly as the lava she could wield as a weapon. It was even possible to see the glow of her veins.
She flinched when there's a knock on the door and before she can move, hsy is shoved behind a screen. She can hear the door open and footsteps move through the room.
However, before the footsteps, accompanied by the metal clanking sound of armour, can get close there's a sharp smell similar to that of pepper spray in the air. Hsy is glad she covered her face because the skin on the back of her hands is burning.
She can hear ysa speak and the guard leaves.
The next thing hsy feels are hands on her own which uncover her face to the sweet smile of the princess. She sees a notification screen pop up to the side.
[Yoo Sangah has joined your party]
Ysa gives hsy some crucial information without asking any questions.
Hsy is glad, but she realises the pressing urge to find yjh again. He needs to know these things. She is sure these are things they never wrote in detail, which means that there is something about this world they set up that they, as its creators, have no influence over.
Hsy needed to find yjh. He might be in danger.
When they split up to hide, he was the one that drew their attention so she could get to safety. Hsy knew he couldn't be dead, but that might just be empty hope. She prayed to whatever being would listen that he would be safely hidden.
Somehow the two companions end up meeting near the Queen's chambers. They're both shocked and relieved to see the other alive and well.
But they had no time to be happy, the queen was bathing. Hsy had checked that herself. The final boss had been surrounded by servants while she was in the bathtub behind the screen.
While looking for a way out the two had found more party members. They had originally all been under the tyranny of the queen, but they were willing to stand against her considering none of them agreed with the way the queen ruled her kingdom.
They didn't know how the queen found out, but she was chasing them. There was blood dripping from her face, her hair hung in wet strings around her face and over her shoulder as she chased them in her robe. Her huge figure couldn't keep up with their speed and agility and the party members were glad.
The queen tried to go after their party members because they couldn't get hsy and yjh, but somehow (luckily) kept failing.
Suddenly they used their skill. Hsy hated the fact they had come up with that skill the moment she realised it had been used on her. She now had to get off of the palace terrain within a certain timeframe or they would all be doomed. If she made it, they would all be saved. And hopefully she and yjh could go back home. They needed to fix the bugs in this game.
Considering her options in record time, hsy clambered through a window and ran down the stairs. She was glad she had remembered yjh's design for the castle. Right now it was saving all of their lives.
Hsy threw herself over a wall, the party members weren't far behind, they attempted to stall the queen. Hsy checked the timer and sped up, forcing her body towards the houses near the palace.
She was very glad for yjh's decision to give those houses a special defense mechanism to save them from the Queen's tirades.
Hsy fell against one of the houses and saw the party members do the same. Yjh tackled her to the ground and there were green vines that covered the area the moment the queen got a certain distance away. They were saved.
Hsy collapsed fully onto the ground, a relieved laugh as yjh was still holding onto her.
#ORV#I'm back at it with my bs#just expanding on my ideas#yoohan#they got isekai'd#sunnieswriting#I didn't actually do much research
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1. How much of ORV have you read? Have you reread it yet?
-> finished, and then reread fully once, then reread in sections about 4 or 5 more times tbh. Is this what hyperfixation feels like?
2. How long did it take you to read ORV?
-> a week, almost exactly, and that's about the only thing I did other than chores. Given I can read a 400-500 page novel in a day, that's beefy.
3. What's your opinion on the welcoming? Does it do a good job adapting the story?
-> Any adaptation from text to visual is going to, by necessity, lose some fidelity due to time constraints. To fully recreate every nuance of the book would take too long - and would be a disservice to the book in the end. Overall, I think they're doing a great job staying true to the story in as much detail as is feasible to recreate, and I'm pretty excited for the next arc (Dark Castle arc) hehe
4. (I'm skipping the fic ones cos I haven't read any) Do you have any ORV merchandise?
-> Nooooottt yet lol
5. (Skipping the mutual part because???) Which parts of ORV made you cry?
-> SPOILERS FOR SURE. 1) the part when kdj returns from 1863 and kneels in front of Shin Yoosung was probably the first scene that got me. Then they just kept hitting me - 2) when Jung Heewon was looking at his sleeping form while they were drugging him asleep (lol) and locking him up in the complex (double lol) and she noted how tired and worn he looked, and found she just couldn't stay mad at him. Then 3) when Yoo Joonghyuk fought him on Reincarnator Isle and Kim Dokja was unable to express himself, and Yoo Joonghyuk himself was being so much of an idiot that he really almost killed him, and just the GUILT. The MISCOMMUNICATIONS AND MISUNDERSTANDINGS. How dare they. Then 4) when kdj was facing the outer gods in the N'Gai forest, then--hey wait come back I have more-
6. Who's your favorite character, yoohankim excluded?
-> Is there a quiz I can take to help me pick??? Uriel... Sun Wukong.... Shin Yoosung...but then Lee Hyunsung too is so good... and Lee Gilyeong, and and--??? Bro you got me man. Most want to meet irl, probably Lee Hyunsung....
7. What's one headcanon you'd ride or die for?
-> THAT POST CH 551 IS HAPPY AND KDJ IS BACK. Haven't read the side stories yet. I refuse to believe it failed. That said, I'm not one to really care about what others like or dislike, and I'm not gonna shove my opinions upon anyone else as a result. So, that's the only one I would protest if someone said otherwise lol
8. Which ORV character gets the most bitches?
-> Kim Dokja is the most beloved (the world was made for him) but he's wholly too awkward and doesn't know how to accept that when it comes from a person so he gets no bitches. Yoo Joonghyuk is pretty and people are attracted to him, but he's too cold and only very few people can overcome that enough to have feelings reciprocated (Lee Seolhwa) so he's also basically bitchless. Han Sooyoung is too gremlin for anyone and seriously has no interest.
Honestly, I bet the one who gets the most is Lee Hyunsung, because he's too nice, but he keeps being taken advantage of so it never lasts. I'm sorry bro.
9. If Kim Dokja is a squid and Yoo Joonghyuk is a sunfish, what's Han Sooyoung?
-> a clownfish.
10. Do you think anyone in kimcom knows how to drive?
-> well, we know Han Sooyoung can; she mentioned owning expensive cars before, and hating public transport. We know Yoo Sangah can, because she drove the limo in the final chapter. We know Kim Dokja can, he just kinda sucks at it (a comment from 999!yjh). Other than them, I'd bet Lee Hyunsung can, just because I can't imagine it isn't basic training for the military. Not sure about anyone else. Maybe Gong Pildu and Lee Seolhwa?
11. Do you think you would survive the scenarios? How far would you get?
-> I'd die so fast, I have no illusions. I'm too boring and not enough of a quick thinker to survive ngl. Maybe if I got lucky I'd get to the battle between subway stations section but.....idk man, past that...
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🔥:Which ORV character gets the most bitches (if you pick Kim Dokja I’ll hunt you for sport /j)
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🚘:Do you think anybody in Kimcom knows how to drive?
⚔️:Do you think you would survive the scenarios? How far would you get?
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