#should i - as a sociology major - make a separate post about paul's views on sexuality
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I stumbled across this comment on YouTube earlierāand at first I was like haha nice but then I actually thought about it and I think thereās a really interesting opportunity for mclennon conspiracy discourse here. (yay!)
Under a cut because itās a bit lengthy.
Nowhere Boy (2009)Ā with Aaron Taylor Johnson and Thomas Brody Sangster: In this film about early John and his path to the Beatles, there are (arguably) new, nuanced details about his familial life and childhood/background that havenāt typically been conveyed in prior film portrayals of Lennonāand thisĀ ānew, nuancedā bit comes from reading reviews and hearing comments about how many people watching the film (what I would consider, like, a āgeneral populationā of Beatles fans) didnāt even know about the details of his motherās death. In the film, thereās a scene where Paulās playing Juliaās banjo, and long story short John gets in a fight with someone and tosses the banjo and storms out. Paul follows him out there and he punches Paul in the face, who goes crumbling to the concrete. So, thatās theĀ āpunching sceneā. The point is, Paul McCartney reportedly made it very clear that that never happened (i.e., that John had never hit him) after he saw the film and was not happy about it. (Iāve heard thisĀ ānot happy about [the film]ā narrative over and over, but I canāt seem to find any great direct quotes from Paul, other than people saying that Paul wasnāt a fan and suggesting he wasnāt happy about certain other portrayalsĀ [lol]- so if anyone has any, Iād love to hear about it!). Essentially, in response, Taylor Johnson tried to defend the emotional validity of the film and suggested, like, well we think John probably wanted to hit Paul a lot of the time, and the movie is just activating an interpretation of that. But, yeah, the point was that Paul was pissed about the punch scene and was reportedly very adamant that John never, ever hit him.Ā And itās not as though Paul had issues with the violence of it, because if it was that, why would he discuss it as an inaccuracy? Is there a nicer way to punch someone in the face? And, that would be completely neglecting the 0.2 seconds later when John realizes what heās done and pulls Paul into a tight hug, which forms a very beautiful street shot of one morphed being shortly thereafter (side note: creative decision meant to emphasize the oneness in their bond of losing their mothers? anyway).
Two of Us (2000) television drama with Jared Harris and Aidan Quinn: First off,Ā I feel like itās worth mentioning that this is directed by Michael Lindsay-Hogg (who is also the director of Let it Be (1970), so... guy who spend hours upon hours with and watching the Beatles?). In this movie, thereās an elevator scene where John and Paul are messing around, cracking jokes and getting in a playfight and whatnot, and in the midst of it all John kisses him. After a couple of seconds, Paul pushes him off and doesnāt say anything for a moment. Then, he just makes a joke (āJust ācause Yokoās away doesnāt mean you have to stop brushing your teethā) and they laugh it off. Contrary to Nowhere Boy, Paul rather liked Two of UsĀ as remarked on by Aidan Quinn in an interview on April 18, 2004: āJust after I finished the film, I went on holiday and Paul McCartney was staying at the same place. I met him and we became quite friendly. Later, he saw the film and fortunately he liked it. It would have been terrible if he'd hated it.ā It appears that Paul is very complimentary of Two of Us - hence, the joke in the fandom that like āpaul likes the kissing sceneā. Paul hasnāt said anything about the kiss directly that I can find (sus in and of itself), but thereās been reasonable arguments made for the validity of the scene in that all of the other portrayals of John and Paul in the film are so accurate and realistic and truthfulĀ (see: Martin Lewis quote)āwhy would this detail be any different?
We could analyze these films and creative decisions separately and in comparison for hours and hours, but I find the McCartney responses a particular area of interest. Because donāt we think if Paul was adamant about setting the narrative straight on things that did or didnāt happen between him and John, and if he wanted to continue to push his ever-insistent narrative of āJohn wasnāt gay bc if he was he wouldāve made a pass at meĀ (or someone else) in 20 yearsā, he would also want to make it very well-known that the kissing scene didnāt happen either? With the same level of insistence? Though the movies themselves arenāt reduced to these two polarized scenes, is it not worth considering why Paul chose to speak out about one, but not the other? If it was an issue of setting the record straight (no pun intended), would Paul not wish to exercise the same amount of caution with kissing scenes as with fighting scenes, especially given what we know about how he has typically viewed and discussed sexuality?Ā
Or, could it possibly be that the kissing sceneāin its presentation of playfighting, spontaneity, a brief moment of confusion and realization, then laughed off and construed as a jokeāisnāt an inaccuracy?
#should i - as a sociology major - make a separate post about paul's views on sexuality#and how we have to take what he says about his and john's with a grain of salt because of the social and historical context he grew up in#basically just misconstrued ideas about the fluidity and rigidity of sexuality throughout life#or how sexualities themselves are social constructs because what defines 'gay' /etc varies within time and place#anyway#john lennon#paul mccartney#mclennon#mclennon conspiring#nowhere boy#two of us#paul psychoanalysis?#or more like... psychosocial analysis?#why he react the way he do#whatever regardless of facts imma believe they kissed
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