#she like most if not all dc characters rn are not as fleshed out as they were previously

[ambrozians]

Do u have a recs list for ppl wanting to know more about Jade? Pls and thx ❤❤

omg of course! happy to know that you want to learn more about her :) there will be some more recs under the cut, but imho, these are the absolute essentials:

new teen titans annual #2. her first appearance! honestly, a really fun way to get introduced to her. pretty low stakes.

the new teen titans (1984) #20-21. arguably the most important. it gives you the backstory on jade & roy's relationship, displays both her sense of morality and of justice, introduction to the "jade" vs. "cheshire" dichotomy, and we meet lian!

action comics (1938) the cheshire contract #613-618. another big story. this is how lian ends up in roy's custody.

batman plus arsenal (1997) #1. this isn't told from jade's pov but it is about her. really, it shows the lengths she's willing to go to save and protect lian.

the titans (1999) #21-22, #27, & #30. i have so many mixed feelings about this run which is in large part due to what it deals with, but i think it does a nice job of trying to humanize her despite dealing with qurac. it shows how the worlds of "jade" and "cheshire" are colliding now and give us a glimpse into how she's dealing with that.

now, before i even add this, let me preface this by saying that i don't think this run is particularly good. it is, however, the only story where we actually get jade's inner dialogue, which is extremely important because this takes place after lian's death. please bear in mind that she is grappling with depression and an immense amount of grief to the point that she is suicidal. the run is titans (2008) #24-38.

other stories that you can check out for fun: booster gold (1985) #16-17, wonder woman (1986) #94-95, batman: secret files (2018) #3, tales of the new teen titans (1983) #51-52. her appearances in birds of prey (1999) are fun reads for the most part, but they're more entertaining rather than necessary to understanding who jade is as a character. on top of that, i'd argue that dixon does a better job writing her than simone does, which says a lot (if you're familiar w/ either) and it doesn't say anything good. if you are interested, though, then the issues are #4-6, #28-30, and #63-67.

i would suggest staying away from any of her secret six appearances. like, i cannot emphasize enough how racist and misogynistic her writing is in that run. it is to jade what rhato is to roy in that it has contributed to some wildly misinformed takes.

[rorykillmore]

and then hmm are there any post-denny aus you haven't talked about before? or any you've changed/developed more recently?

honestly i should at some point come up with one for lucille because there’s like, no way that going back to her world wouldn’t be terrible (i mean technically, she’s dead there, so) and going to maria’s doesn’t seem like it’d be much better but like…. idk, there’s no one else she’d really wanna go hang out with. maybe she should just hitch a ride to camille’s world, the gillian flynn cinematic universe, where all brutally flawed and complicated female characters with a history of murder end up eventually,

i’ve talked to death about these already and i don’t reeeeally have any new ideas for them rn, but siobhan’s post-denny guardians of the galaxy au is still one of my favorite things ever, and also the ultimate act of betrayal in her ditching the dc world for the marvel one,

my post-denny au for sara/kara/caitlin was pretty interconnected and huge because fate, storm and i worked on it for like… ages, and now it includes newer characters like maive too, so that one’s pretty cool and always has room for expansion. i know fate might bring ratchet back, but my general policy for post-denny aus is “once characters are dropped, you can’t prove that they didn’t actually happen” so UNTIL he comes back and we have to revert to canon… i like to think that ratchet and kara are together. the original premise was basically like, sasuke and ratchet end up back in kara’s world, and then the deo/team flash/dctv’s general assortment of scientific minds work on a way to make rifting to other worlds possible, and sasuke and ratchet get sent back home but a general agreement is struck to keep their rifts open so that like… kara/ratchet/sasuke can become protectors of the multiverse. and then this whole thing happens where kara gets stranded in the transformers world and then goes back to the deo to get clearance to allow some of the deceptions through to build a sanctuary on her earth, so that’s how THEY got involved

anyways yeah whenever i get sad about kara and ratchet being dropped i like to imagine them hanging out, inseparable to the end

i’m always really torn about… dolores’ post-denny au because i can’t decide what the most interesting. scenario would be. and thus out of indecision i haven’t really fleshed it out that much. because while her giving up the potentially stable, maybe even happy future she has on denny to go back to this horrific warzone is really sad…. it’s also what she’d want. i don’t think she’d ever really be able to get past needing to take down delos.

but from there, i don’t really know what the most interesting route would be? at one point i thought like, some of the hosts who don’t end up in the valley beyond or who just want something more… real than that coming to kara’s world to chill with the decepticons could be really really cool for a lot of reasons. that provides them with a solution they didn’t have in canon and idk, maybe dolores would even be tempted by it. then she might get to see laurel again, too, and would probably at least be tempted to stay with her….

but i also…. really like the way westworld season 2 ended for her so i’m like….. hm. how could i still play with that. maybe she helps some of the hosts get to the decepticon sanctuary but then takes off because she still can’t quite let go of her anger everything that happened and everything she feels isn’t settled, and then she can run into some denny people a couple years after that or something….

post-denny it’d actually be really cool for her to run into cloud a couple of times too, post-him turning, because i like the idea of them being like… weird immortal friends over the years and it’d be really interesting to see what they make of each other’s worlds

partially related, sophie really needs a post-denny au because no way does she deserve to go back to the fuckin’ true blood universe only to get killed by BILL. she should get to retire somewhere nice. idk sophie just becomes a final fantasy character. or she goes to like, idk, alucard’s world and is just like “what’s with all the nazis”,