#she goes and says “shes gay” “shes def gay” “when you gonna come out” “hurry up and come out”

[haoaibai]

guess who got outed when their birthday is just a few hours from now 😹

[akria23]

So there seems to be some confusion with my last post - which mainly is meant to ire at the reaction of audience when it comes to female characters and their roles in these type of tropes with homosexual characters. And on a darker note there seems to be an accepted narration of Chloe that I find myself questioning deeply.

The accusations against her: She's threatening Lucas with her plan of revenge to out him so he'll understand the consequences of fucking her over...

Where are people getting this is my first question and the answer seems to rely in the conversation in the gym. And this is where I feel like contempt for female characters plays a huge role because it allows the audience to create a narrative by pulling one sentence out of the frame of a conversation that held a lot of context. There's no build up to make people believe this narrative (assumption because we haven't seen the episode - and the fact that this is where people immediately went mentality...is weird to me) we don't see her tracking Lucas down (he tracks her down) we don't see her grouped up having a kiki about his sexuality (she doesn't even bring it up - he does). Instead as she hurried to get away she doesn't seem that interested in talking to or about him. So when they're having this two sided conversation (a don't tell anyone stance on his part and a how dare you even have the audacity convo on her's) the upset audience pulls out the part where she says I can say what I want to who I want (removing it from the frame of why this is said and her ending punch which are very important in my opinion). They change this to - I'm gonna go tell everyone you're gay - making it a punishment for his behavior.

They then choose to focus more on this possible narrative they've created than the one that sits before them - the one where we literally watch Lucas lie and try to manipulate the situation and this girl again. The narrative where he doesn't care even as she calls him out on his BS all throughout the conversation. We all watched as he offered no apology, no regret, and yet he leaves this conversation as being the victim for the masses while she's pointed out as the villain.

My point in my post was that the trope of using women to shield the homosexual has become so normalized that no matter what happens she's easily taken as the big bad, the annoyance or a complete waste of space. The males are rarely (if ever) held accountable. Instead it's acceptable to demean the female for even thinking she has a right to speak on the truth he pulled her into. There seems to be a belief (both implied and actively said to me) that because the world is unfair to homosexuals, homosexuals have to be unfair to women and that's a role she has has to then be silent about because that's a hinderance to the homosexual male - def in story. A female who plays one of of these triangles is only liked when they don't play any hindering filter for the homosexual couple. The moment she does...it's world war 3 against her in the comments. She has to help and be happy for the couple, she has to forgive easily and quickly, and if she dares to even emote herself in a way that looks negative against the homosexual counterparts (even though they can do so towards her) then she's called everything but the child of God.

And that's what we get from this conversation - people getting upset making out that she's got this cloud of destruction when that wasn't even what Chloe was saying. It was literally a call out conversation. He stands there still stuck in his denial, still unable to accept his truth, lying and trying to manipulate to go back to living comfortably - uncaring of those around him. And she throws that in his face, tells him about his lack of apology his care only for self and the uncomfortable truth he's trying so desperately trying to erase - that she can think what she wants and say what she wants and she doesn't owe him anything in that respect (you can't lie to me anymore, you can't manipulate me, you have no control over me basically). He's not just trying to get her to be mute he's trying to erase his 'gayness' from even existing even in her mind! He leaves that callout conversation and goes into another where Yann tells him the same thing - you're lying, you're treating your friends wrong and we will be there for you but get yo ish together because you can't lie or manipulate your way out of this. These conversations were basically - You need to get over your shit conversations. One came from someone who admitted that they were nothing to each other (I'm not accountable to you Lucas) and the other came from a friend.

I loved both of these conversations because they spoke on the nature that people seem to skip over in this trope - you may be going through stuff and the world may be unfair to you but that does not give you the right to treat anyone (women or friends) poorly. This version is a more darker (and in some ways realistic) perspective than its original counterpart - where the anger is more raw/intense, where the forgiven is saved for real apologies, where Lucas's trust level seems higher, where his own prejudice on the sexuality feeds his fears on another level . It is my second favorite version because this intensity. But even tho the treatment the fans had towards the females of this story in the original was annoying the reaction to this version takes the cake to me because it's a snippet that makes everyone so okay to talk about Chloe deserving to die and ish like that and the hypocrisy is enlightening.

If you're fixing your mouth to bad talk her and say she's wrong for even the implication but on the same token stay silent to Lucas behavior right here in the same conversation - you're apart of the problem I'm discussing.