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#personal#this is about my last reblog#man i got all sorts of wacky headcanons but Céline BPD is FAR from baseless#i could yap about her forever#she deserves so much better than what she got irt the game#her design 💔 that's why i use that resesign when i draw her#'she only talks about tea' i promise you she does not it's just engage's character gimmick disease#yea and seadall only talks about his eating disorder. alcryst only talks about his complex. chloé only talks about weird food#there is so much more them all and more from that game i'm just. hrgh. Céline#she's literally a beautiful princess with a disorder
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Which (j)rpg classes do you think the Devil Survivor characters would fit into? (Also please specify which series you are thinking of irt classes)
Good afternoon, lovely anon! Thank you for your question, this is a super fun one to think about!
That being said, I am probably the worst rpg fan alive LASDKFJLADS
I always get so confused with classes, so I’m absolutely going to embarrass myself with this question... That being said, I got a refresher on D&D classes, so I’m going to try my best!! (ง •̀_•́)ง
putting under a read more bc length
Atsuro
Warlock, for sure. Warlocks get their powers from a nonhuman entity, and I think that really mirrors the student/teacher relationship that he has with Naoya. I mean, Naoya is technically human, but his punishment has given him god-like intelligence and abilities. Atsuro is always looking for ways to apply what he’s learned, just as warlocks do.
From the very first day of the lockdown, he’s interested in tinkering around with the server and learning more about it, saying
“If we CAN get to the server, though, we can monkey with the demon program all we want.”
Yuzu
This was difficult, but ultimately, I’d say bard. I’d say Yuzu is a bard because she doesn’t particularly excel at anything. She may do decent magic damage (although not as much compared to other characters like Naoya or Amane, and it takes her a while to reach 40 magic), but her movement is also limited to 3 spaces. She is, however, what I would say to be one of the most empathetic characters in the game.
She stops Atsuro from berating Keisuke on day 2, interrupting him and saying:
“Hey, c’mon… We’re all safe now, so let’s not fight, okay?”
She then turns to Keisuke and changes the subject:
“But, uh, Keisuke, was it…? It’s great that your number has increased!”
She is the only one who tries to understand why Midori acts the way she does. On the fourth day, she muses:
“I wonder why she’s so bent on being a hero.”
And on Amane’s 8th day, she is the only one who tries to reach out to Naoya on a personal level and empathize with him.
She clearly has some confidence in her ability to convince Naoya, as she asks Kazuya:
“Oh, it’s Naoya! Hey, Kazuya… Could I try talking to him first?”
And later, when actually talking with Naoya, she says:
“I mean… it must be terrible to be reborn with all your past memories…”
I think that the kindness she shows, and her confidence in said kindness, fits with the charisma that bards possess.
Gin
Druid. Druids revere nature and are concerned with ecological balance. I think that this matches his desire to restore Tokyo to how it was before the lockdown. He knows that the world was a mix of good and bad, but he loved it all the same because that’s the Tokyo that Aya loved.
He says:
“It’s an amazing world, y’know. One big stew of thoughts, desires, emotions… The good and the bad… This city gives it to you all lumped together. … I want the demons out of Tokyo too. That’s when this world will be back the way it was.”
The only thing he wants is preserving that balance; he doesn’t care for a world where that happens.
Interestingly, this also ties into why I think the only 8th day Gin shows up in is Yuzu’s.
Even though some form of peace comes for humanity in both Amane’s and Naoya’s endings, Gin is noticeably absent. From what we know about Aya, she would’ve been content with either Amane’s or Naoya’s no kill endings. Aya loved the world, and was the type of person to find beauty in anything. Someone like that wouldn’t be averse to change. In fact, she might even welcome it.
But Gin is different. Gin never learned what Aya was really trying to teach him. Gin learned to appreciate the things about the Tokyo Aya fell in love with, but that’s not the point Aya was trying to make. Aya was trying to teach Gin how to appreciate the beauty in any situation. Aya would’ve wanted Gin to learn to find something to love in any world, but Gin couldn’t see the big picture. This is why he’s so obsessed with restoring Tokyo, and why he doesn’t show up in Amane’s or Naoya’s eighth days. Neither of these outcomes will bring Tokyo back to how it was.
Kaido
Barbarian. I’m sure right now you’re thinking “Well, duh, Amelia”. But other than his hot-headedness and pure rage in battle, I think there are some overlooked aspects of Kaido that make him a good fit for a barbarian.
Kaido is absolutely a “ride or die” kind of man. He’s willing to put himself in danger’s way, not only for the ones he cares about, but complete strangers as well. He teams up with Honda because he wants Honda to be reunited with his son as quickly as possible. Additionally, when he first meets Kazuya, he offers to find Naoya for him, saying:
“Well… Things are pretty bad around here, so I’ll help you look. Got a photo or anything?”
After Kazuya shows Kaido a picture of Naoya, Kaido says:
“This is the guy, huh…? Send me the pic over IR. Cool, got it. Alright, once the cells come back on, I’ll spread it around my crew.”
This wasn’t something that Kazuya asked him to do. This was something that Kaido volunteered to do. He didn’t have to do this for 3 strangers, but he did anyway.
Another aspect of Kaido that makes him a good barbarian is his metaphorically nomadic life.
Kaido has no real convictions in life. He’s just aimlessly doing what life handed to him. His brother died? Well, guess he has to take over his gang. Being stuck in the lockdown? Gain more power to help him survive and protect the person he cares about. The messiah is working to save humanity? Time to side with the angels. His personality and convictions are shaped by his environment. The only thing that is a constant with Kaido is that he feels the need to protect those he works with.
Keisuke
Cleric. Need I say more? Clerics are those who wield magic in service of a higher power. When Yama is initially summoned, he says:
“I am true justice, the raging sword. This righteous blade shall pass judgement on evil!”
With the power that Yama bestowed upon him, Keisuke can make sure that evildoers receive the justice they deserve.
Midori
Monk. She idolizes her late father who was a stuntman before he died in an accident, and wishes to be just like him. She tells Kazuya:
“My daddy’s job was to be a hero! … My own daddy was a defender of justice! … Soooo, that’s why I wanna be a hero too!”
Just as monks use their power to pursue physical and spiritual perfection, Midori wishes to be both physically and emotionally strong enough to be a defender of justice.
Haru
Bard, although for a different reason as Yuzu. While I believe Yuzu’s bard-like tendencies come from her lack of any particular skill and her empathy for others, Haru demonstrates traits that are more aligned with what people think of as a “traditional” bard.
She certainly has an affinity for story-telling, as she opens up to Kazuya fairly easily, wanting to tell him her life story. On the third day, she talks to Kazuya, saying:
“Let’s take a breather and chat sometime. It’ll be on me.”
She also (very obviously) fits in with the musical traits that bards have, as Aya’s song is a critical part in Devil Survivor’s lore. After the battle with Belial, she tells Gin:
“When I sang the song with Aya’s sequencer and that demon appeared… She helps a total stranger pick up her life, then summons demons and disappears!? ...I’m going to help these kids. If Aya summoned the demons, I’ll get rid of them!”
Using her musical talent, Haru is able to guide the party through perilous situations.
Amane
Another fairly straightforward answer. Sorcerers have inherent magical abilities from which they draw their power. Remiel says:
“Amane has had a power to hear the voices of the holy and the unholy since she was young. That is why Belberith turned his attention to her, and used her as a catalyst for Jezebel.”
This innate power that Remiel says Amane has is what then allowed the Shomonkai to defeat Jikoku. When Izuna asks Amane how she was able to defeat Jikoku, Amane simply replies:
“I borrowed the power of Jezebel, who is Master Belberith’s subordinate.”
While Amane’s innate abilities to hear non-human voices did not by itself defeat Jikoku, it certainly is what allowed the Shomonkai to do so. This drawing on an inherent power is much like what a sorcerer does, no?
Mari
Oh, this is a fun one. Mari is an extremely complex and multi-faceted character, and I can see aspects of her in many different classes. Ultimately, though, I think given her character development throughout the game, I’m going to go with barbarian-lite.
She doesn’t possess the same unbridled rage and primal physicality that barbarians typically do, but the strong emotions are absolutely there, as that is what allowed her to summon Kresnik in the first place. She’s just… better at hiding these emotions.
The character trait of hers that I find to be the most barbarian-like is how, by the end of the game, she has absolutely zero regard for anything other than loyalty to the party. Civility be damned, Mari is happy to slaughter innocent civilians if it means she can be loyal to Kazuya. Remember, it was Kaido who forced Mari out of the group during the Despot route. The conversation between the two of them unfolds as follows:
“Mari… You get out of here. We’ll handle the rest.”
“What are you saying, Tadashi? I can still--”
“No! ...C’mon, listen to me. Throw your COMP away, right now.”
“No. I don’t want to lose another…”
Clearly, Mari has no desire to leave the group, as she is worried that means she will lose another person that she loves. She has a very primal instinct to protect those in her immediate circle.
Barbarians also have a tendency to charge headlong into that danger so that their party members don’t have to. She tells Kaido on the second day:
“I’m sorry, Tadashi… I know you worry about me… but I can’t back down.”
She worries that she will lose Kaido to the bloodless murderer as well, and charges ahead with her dangerous plan to defeat Kudlak. She knows that it’s selfish, but she just can’t stand to lose anyone else she cares about, so she jumps straight into the danger, hoping to protect the ones she loves in her immediate circle.
Honda
Yet another barbarian. I feel like this is probably the most self-explanatory of the bunch. Honda is just absolute chaos incarnate. Not only is he willing to murder for his son, but he is absolutely the most animalistic of the characters in this entire game. He is the only character who ever pushes for a truly chaotic world, as we see in Yuzu’s 7th day ending. In Yuzu’s 8th day, Honda has no qualms killing the SDF soldiers, viewing it as a favor to Kazuya and the group. When Atsuro berates Honda for killing the soldiers, Honda nonchalantly responds:
“You mean those guys just now? I only wanted to help my friends out of a tight spot. … Hahaha, guess I overstepped my boundaries.”
At this point in the game, Honda is driven by blind rage. A fierce fighter, his son has died, and the only thing that matters to him is killing the SDF soldiers, all in the name of revenge for his son.
Izuna
I think Izuna is simply a fighter. She’s adept at combat, with insanely high strength, agility, and vitality stats. An extremely brave and selfless person, she volunteered herself for the mission despite knowing that she would probably die. She tells Fushimi:
“Commander… I volunteered for this to save Tokyo and the lives of its citizens. Not to protect the unit’s honor!”
Later, in the tunnel, she pleads to Kazuya:
“There must be a way to save everyone… That’s why we volunteered for this mission. But if it raises the slim chance of this mission’s success… Please help us!”
Even Atsuro notes that everything Izuna does is for the sake of the mission, saying:
“Haha… The mission before everything, huh? I dunno… But I’ll let it slide for you.”
With Izuna’s primary goal at all times being the success of the mission, I think she’s perfect to be classified as a fighter.
Naoya
This man is absolutely a rogue. Rogues have a broad expertise that few other characters can match. They also would rather make one precise strike, placing it exactly where the attack will hurt the target most, than wear an opponent down with a barrage of attacks.
Thanks to his punishment, Naoya is a genius at predicting how people will act and behave. He is a man of few words, but boy, do those words hit hard. He can almost always twist a situation to get any outcome he wants. The best display of this is in his 7th day, where he is successfully able to extend the government’s deadline to use the UEM field. Kaido is impressed at how the negotiation with Fushimi went, saying:
“Negotiation? Hah! That was more like an order!”
Rogues are also not above using deception and trickery for their own gain. Naoya tells Atsuro:
“Every side plays dirty to get what it wants.”
Naoya also goes to great lengths to prevent the party from learning his true identity. When the angels fight Kazuya in front of Hills building, they attempt to reawaken his memories as Abel. Naoya panics, saying:
“Tch… Kazuya! Don’t listen to a word he says! He’s only trying to confuse you!”
Later, when Kazuya and Atsuro question about what Abel is, Naoya refuses to answer, simply responding:
“Unfortunately, I don’t plan on answering that question. Even if you knew, it has no relevance to the objective.”
Naoya is a deceptive man with god-like brilliance. Absolutely fitting for a rogue, if you ask me.
Thank you so much anon!! This was really fun, and I’m hoping I’m not embarrassing myself too much LOL(´ω`♡%)
#devil survivor#devil survivor spoilers#atsuro kihara#yuzu tanikawa#eiji kamiya#tadashi nikaido#keisuke takagi#midori komaki#yoshino harusawa#amane kuzuryu#mari mochizuki#yasuyuki honda#misaki izuna#naoya minegishi#desu rambles#amelia rambles#answered#oh goodness this was so fun but i think i'm really bad at it bc i'm too small brain to understand classes LOL#i just read on dnd website about the different classes and went from there#i'm such a fake gamer#head empty only devil survivor#this was really fun tho thank you anon i love you
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EXILE
Name/gender/appearance/favorite hobby?
opele (pr. “opal”) endac! she goes by just Oh or Elle, if not just her first name. shes a cis girl, and tbh she mostly just looks like lucy liu cuz i got a big fat crush on her and i picked the east asian icon for her. she has a short bob haircut tho, and lean but muscular build, and is in her late 30s. her hobbies are like.. being active and running and stuff like that lol she also likes doing mindless work with her hands so lots of like tinkering with anything, like electronics or mechanical stuff.
Where are they from? Where are they going?
probably nowhere important, and she was too young to remember any part of it, parents included. a no name planet somewhere with a steady but boring colony. where shes going is a lot more interesting since she knows where revan might be.. i think she would really want to go find her and help her with whatever the war is but she would be lying to herself if she didn’t realize she formed a huge attachment to atton. she loves him dearly and it would be really hard to leave him.. if anything, i think the most realistic thing is that she and him went and settled somewhere, keep their heads low, and just live life. shes a tired bitch ok. mb one day she’ll go and find rev but rn she wants to chill.
What did they do to occupy themselves between the Mandalorian Wars and waking up on Peragus?
absolutely nothing. she spent a lot of time during her time cut off from the force just going thru the motions. if anyone noticed she was different or recognized her for whatever reason, she would pack up and leave. a large chunk of her time was spent trying not to form any social bonds, and any time she would start getting to know someone she would bolt. just overall a rly lonely and sad existence. she would work odd jobs and just generally be a shell of her former self.
What was their relationship with Revan like?
well i already sort of answered this in revs but. there was the intimidation cause revan is well............scary lol they are probably close in age so they grew up together in the temple. it was never anything more than a passing interest until the wars and then they sort of? hit it off? in that weird way where u both went thru that conflict together. obviously there was a bond since opeles force issues, but it was more on revans side than opeles. she was mostly just trying to win the war. tldr they liked each other but not as much as revan likes opele.
What was their relationship with Atris like?
well she had no clue atris had feelings for her so their relationship never went past a cold formality... opele thought atris hated her, so she stayed away from her when she could. she wasn’t the type to confront her about it so she just didn’t.
With Kreia?
lot to unpack here lol i think my exile wanted to trust her so badly but like... she knew she wasnt good. i think there was a lot of using, from both sides. kreia wanted to use the exile for obvs. reasons, and my exile wanted to use kreia to relearn all that she had lost during her exile. i do think, though, that kreia probably felt more towards opele than the other way around. like there was definitely like an attachment but... she always knew not to get too close, no matter how much she wished she could. overall i think it was an uneasy relationship, lots of tension but much more learning from one another.
Did they travel with both Mical and Brianna, or only one?
just mical cause i forgot to install the mod, unless there was a way u could w/o the mod?? either way yeah lmao just mical.
Do they regret what they did in the Wars?
part of her always will but she wouldn’t change what she did because she believes that it was necessary. shes... guilty but not very regretful.
How traumatized were they by the visions on Korriban? (Personally, I cried and screamed, but I’m not exactly as tough as a Jedi. I’m probably not even as tough as C-3P0.)
LIKE... personally i was fucked up about it but my exile did pretty well despite the circumstances. she also knew that there was a part of it all that was just visions, wasn’t real, but there is also that very real dark energy gained from not dealing with the visions correctly. she failed some, and won in others, which i think the specifics of really defined her well as a character. she failed the first one- where she was being recruited for the war. she also failed the one where her entire crew was going against kreia, and outright refused to participate and got the whole apathy spiel. she “survived” the rest though, and defeated revan which i think rly ties in well with her almost like? using the dark side? but not falling to it.
Is there romance in their lives?
i’d like to think during their time in the game, there isn’t anything more than an inkling. i luv atton to bits and so does she lol but i think a lot of their romantic stuff is left for after the game- especially with that ending where he’s there waiting for her after kreia and is like so where to next ;w; but before that it is mostly just skirting around the issue. a very slow burn fic lol. i do think she thought about the disciple but he was so much younger than her and it was such a puppy love, it was just like well that dudes in love with me i guess. obvs. nothing before that since she was jedi/exiled
Light side or dark side?
light side, but she was very close to being a grey jedi by the end of it. definitely lighter than my revan post-game tho
How do they feel about the Jedi Order?
there is always going to be that element of betrayal because of what they withheld from her and what they did to her irt her loss of the force for some time. but honestly... she was done with them the moment they didn’t do anything to stop the war. she respected their judgement and teachings but she never considered herself a jedi after they kicked her out, and she never will again. she also thinks they got a lot of it wrong- and that a lot of what kreia said made sense, up until a point.
What happens to them after the game? Do they ever find Revan? Do they ever reconnect to the Force?
i sorta answered this one up there too but basically she stays with atton and just . rly wants to stay put and have a normal life but in the end.. i think she would go to find revan. i also think she would take atton with her, against her better judgement. as for reconnecting tbh? i think it stays how it is with her, where she can use it but there is something there thats fucked up, not right. maybe she tries to figure that out and travels around with atton to get some answers before going to help rev.
BONUS: What do you think happens to all the party members post game?
HMN GOD well i think bao dur got the short end of the stick since hes super unfinished but i think he would definitely go with them until opele is like dude i love u so much but u gotta find ur own way that doesnt involve me. she would have to put distance between them, despite the pain it would cause both of them since they were like... best fucken friends. for everyone else i think, they go their separate ways much quicker than him. they stay in touch cause opele loves them all but she knows its better to keep them away from her because of her force shit. i think miras and the disciples “endings” are pretty good even with the openishness. canderous goes back to do mandalore stuff but stays in touch as well. honestly i dont have a clue about goto and neither does the exile lmao t3, of course, stays with her and atton. hk runs off and does bounty hunter stuff. idk i mostly think about bao dur in this cuz i love him and he deserved better
#kotor character meme#kotor 2#the exile#star wars#knights of the old republic 2#chelsea speaks#OK HERES MY OTHER BABY#opele
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the kurosawas are probably the most detached from the rest of the Oc Web because they already have the hayashis to hang out with and kouki & nora are not the best at socializing (kouki wishes he could be. nora does not give a shit) the only other oc that i own that is definitely pre-established friend of theirs is mia...
okay this post got like really long hold on. oc relationship web (the self-insular version where it’s all My Own ocs except for a brief mention of katsuya/nate’s not-husband and the above mention of the hayashis) under the cut
haruka and zagreus (i literallydreamed the character concept and name up before i even knew a single thing about that one game. i dreamed i was a motorcyclist named zagreus and i went that’s fun i’ll make that real. let me live.) are bffs and also very friendly and easygoing people so they pretty much tie every other oc together in one big friendship web, but even more importantly there’s already an established connection to pull in my OTHER social recluse, because zagreus’s royal advisor/older sister figure is ophelia, who is the Biological older sister of nate, and as soon as ophelia and nate are reunited and zagreus finds out about it he’s obviously going to adopt nate as basically his brother and then through zagreus nate also meets ein and haruka and through haruka he meets the babbages. this is the giant web here
i also know that eventually nate and the kurosawas will be friends and i think haruka and nora would make good pals because haruka is like perfectly built to handle nora’s standoffishness... really my biggest trouble is connecting mia to the oc friendship web because she’s very picky about her company and she’s too aloof to maintain actual connections with most people. the only ones i can think of are loose “she’d be chill with zagreus” and “she would assume her being very vulgar and irreverent would piss nate off so she does that on purpose near him but he seems more than okay with it and in fact may even have a chuckle so she’d decide he’s also fine” and “she would be okay with rin (babbage) and ein thinking she’s cool because they Would think she’s cool as hell and mia agrees. but she’d be like errrmmm... no... if any attempt was made to get her to babysit. even though she’d do a decent job of it and isn’t actually as bad with kids as she thinks she is”
also i think thOH RIGHT and ophelia and nora and zagreus obviously have to become friends because they all like jojo. okay anyway i think zagreus and mia would be the most tickled with the fact that nate is this very serious-looking regal prettyboy whose wardrobe makes him look like he’s constantly cosplaying a vampire and/or miles edgeworth and speaks in a generally calm and verbose manner is:
Incredibly Clueless about like... generally accepted concepts like theme parks, roller coasters, anime conventions, video games/pokemon, and if you introduce him to any of these he approaches them with the same straightfaced curiosity and if you ask him questions you get to find out how many things he’s getting wrong. for example he thinks that “voltorb” is what the trainer he’s fighting named their little round pet. like he’d think it was Mr. Voltorb and Ms. Oddish and not realize that it’s a species name. and also he thinks that people getting stopped for pictures at disneyland is just something that happens there and the people all dressed up in their princess/prince outfits are just dressed like that casually because he also showed up dressed similarly and ALSO keeps getting stopped for photos. so he’s like “i see, so it’s a social norm in this town (he thinks disneyland is a town) to expect photographs. understood”
not only is he Not scandalized by hearing the word fuck he himself will occasionally say it. furthermore so long as he actually understands it he will laugh at dirty jokes. more esoteric ones/ones that you can only understand through internet exposure he won’t understand but if you teach him he’ll laugh
related to the above he’s never given up teasing ophelia for accidentally referring to zagreus’s mom as a milf and will very quickly inform people that she did that within the first half hour of reuniting with him after a full decade of neither of them seeing each other and ophelia is tormented by it (and the fact that because she refused to tell him what milf meant, he then asked his not-husband katsuya to define it, said not-husband being someone ophelia had JUST met for the FIRST TIME EVER the same day, who now knew two things about her: she’s nate’s sister and she has the hots for her boss’s mom)
he is willing to attempt to try referencing memes. he does not do it correctly 99% of the time and is strangely verbose about it or just says it with entirely the wrong cadence
has a very easily capitalized-upon curiosity just in general and will not question most requests to do something and will just be like Okay.
this is also all stuff that the rest of the crew would find fairly funny/endearing about him (save for kouki maybe because he and nate are basically on the same wavelength and get along more based on similar personalities and haruka just kinda likes Everyone) but mia and zagreus actively.... i guess exploit? these traits for comedic purposes the most
weirdly i feel like nora wouldn’t exploit it much but maybe it’s because again nate is similar to kouki and nora doesn’t tend to “exploit” any of kouki’s traits, kouki is usually in on whatever nora is trying to do (or at least they have a mutual understanding that they can use each other’s traits to their own advantages and even if they don’t know the plan necessarily they’re aware of what they might need to play up or even just Continue Doing)
nate is like... he’s fine with being handed things and told Do Something With This and given no further instruction. and if he’s laughed at when he says/does something that he didn’t intend to be funny he’s not embarrassed he’s just like “? is that wrong?” and doesn’t take it to heart. but he and mia/zagreus wouldn’t be on the same wavelength of what’s going on (or at least have wildly different perspectives on it?) the way kouki and nora are, mia/zagreus are getting some (friendly, good-spirited) comedy out of nate being the strange little man that he is and nate is usually getting a genuine learning experience that just happens to be very comedic for everyone around him
that also i think is an important difference between the two, nate is much more resistant to being embarrassed than kouki is in most situations. nate is capable of being very casually intimate/physically affectionate with katsuya (though he also doesn’t realize how blatantly romantic it is. once he’s like oh my god i am in gay love with him THAT is when he’s SLIGHTLY flustered about it but it very quickly goes back to not being embarrassing at all for him) and while nate can have his moments of “aw fuck a social blunder” he’s usually more... deeply saddened in an instant than embarrassed. kouki will get embarrassed more by much less and will ALSO be sad about it afterwards, he’s also like Genuinely Shy on top of being lonely and bad at speaking, as opposed to nate who is exceedingly lonely but not necessarily Afraid of talking to/approaching people. he’s just bad at being casual which makes it hard to make friends. kouki and nate are also on complete opposite ends of the verboseness spectrum and yet both ends have the same result of “friend-making very hard”
the plus side though is nate and kouki would be friends super easily because kouki wouldn’t find nate intimidating (actually he’d probably be scoping out whether nate Deserves To Get Robbed or if the hammer of justice need not be swung this time) and both of them are so Autism-Having that the other one’s social awkwardness does not affect them at all. actually itmakes it even better for both of them because nate can ask kouki 5 million questions and kouki can just answer with “*nods head* mm.” or “*shakes head* mm.” and nate’s like “excellent he’s answering my questions and doesn’t look scared this conversation is going great” and kouki islike “wow i can’t believe he’s still talking to me even though i’m barely saying anything this conversation is going great” and nate can infodump all he likes and kouki doesn’t have to stress out about trying to speak “better” because nate doesn’t expect/need him to
i also think it works well because kouki says So Very Little sometimes that it gets insanely vague (ironically enough he tries to only say the important words so that it ISN’T vague because he thinks the more words he says the more likely he is to be misunderstood. like more words = more opportunities to be misconstrued) but nate has no issue with basically rephrasing what kouki said with more words filled in to confirm what he meant and kouki can just be like Yeah or No It’s More Like _ and nate will be like ah i see and it just goes on as normal. which is i think a rarity for kouki because usually nora would be the one to translate kouki-isms and if nora isn’t there kouki would have to sit there thinking really hard about making sure the sentence is as clear as possible and get kind of nervous about being wrong about how clear it is, but nate is not easily offended and doesn’t look Visibly Confused by kouki-isms so kouki is in turn more comfortable and confident
likewise nora would be initially as distrustful of nate as he is with everyone but as soon as he realizes how similar to kouki he is AND that nate and kouki get along nora’ll be really chill with him. even moreso when he makes similar discoveries as mia irt “oh he actually is nowhere near as stuffy as he looks i guess he just dresses fancy”. also i think nora would still do something Adjacent to the mia/zagreus hijinks of giving nate something to do just to see how he reacts, nate and nora have a clearer understanding that if nora asks nate to do something they both know that it’s just for Funny Purposes and nate doesn’t get like... nutritional value out of it it’s just like nora asks him to read something (like just Read it with his eyes or read it aloud) and nate is like ah i’m going to be exposed to very strange words again aren’t i. mia and zagreus would do that sort of thing too it’s all part of the “funny ways to use nate’s strange little traits” umbrella it’s just that nora doesn’t partake in most of the other ways (at least not most of the time anyway. i think he would also be the type to lie to nate about what words/internet terms mean though)
#txt#oc talk#a LOT of oc talk#not a lot about haruka sorry buddy......#i think you're fine with that though because 1. you love your friends and you would be very :-) about them getting along with each other#and 2. if i talk too much about you in the context of friendships#we both know we gotta talk about Times When Haruka Needs Help With Things and you don't think those exist ever
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