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timetraveltodystopia · 2 months ago
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Will seunghan come back to riize?
Will Seunghan come back to RIIZE?
Cards: the hanged man, and the two of wands.
There's a future good prospect for the group. This decision let stuck SM after so many petitions of the international fans, stans and netizens of the comeback of Seunghan. In the meantime, he's out of the group or he will be in hiatus, but after that decision and wrong decision, because of the pressure of Knetizens, he will be back. He is probably reevaluating the big decision he will have to make and the big difficulties he will have to endure.
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divinesangel · 3 months ago
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So… is seunghan ever returning to riize?
— is seunghan returning to riize?
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it seems like there’s a chance for seunghan to return to the group and end the hiatus. he is trying to show the company that he can be reliable and stable, but the decision hasn’t been made yet. it feels like they’re still in the process of healing from the situation or scandal. i sense that the company might still be very disappointed in him because of what happened, and it seems to involve a woman? whether he was caught with her or if she played a role in the situation, it feels like both he and the company are disappointed that things have reached this point because of someone else. the company, in particular, seems to be struggling with accepting this and coming to terms with it. if you’re wondering whether he will return to the group this year, it feels like they’ve been considering it. the company has been thinking about what to do in his case because they feel like they need to make a decision, but the scandal still weighs heavily on them. they’re unsure whether bringing him back is the right choice, and that’s why they haven’t acted yet. it’s as if the scandal was just too much for them to handle, and they’re still questioning whether he deserves to rejoin the group.
the energy around seunghan feels unstable and uncertain because he’s currently going through a phase of loss. it seems like the incident that happened was something that completely shattered his world and surroundings, a sudden and drastic change. now, he’s trying to fix things, but there’s uncertainty about whether it’s even worth the effort. it’s as if he’s giving so much of himself to something that may not have a solution, like that feeling when you invest everything into something, only for nothing to happen, leaving you with a sense of loss and hopelessness. he wants to show others that he’s consistent and eager to move forward, but there’s a deep fear of failure and losing everything he has. for now, he’s staying strong and trying to maintain a positive outlook, expecting some sort of change. it feels like he’s been waiting for something to happen for a while, and there’s a desire within him to come clean, to expose himself, and maybe start over.
it seems like the waiting and uncertainty are really taking a toll on him. he’s feeling hurt and unhappy, because there are so many things he wants to do, but it feels like he’s unable to. if he leaves the group, it seems more likely that it will be his choice, not the company's. i sense there’s a chance he might leave because he’s growing tired of always waiting. it feels like he’s constantly waiting for someone from the company to approach him with an offer or a conclusion about everything.
as time passes, he seems to be focusing more on the future and what lies ahead. he’s very aware of his potential and knows he can achieve great things, which is why this situation is wearing him down. it feels like he’s walking on eggshells, hoping something will happen, but nothing is changing. he really wants to move into a better phase of his life and find the support he’s been needing, which he might not be receiving as much as he hoped for, or at least that’s how it feels to him right now.
when it comes to the idea of returning to the group, that’s where the confusion arises. he’s pondered it, but there’s a strong fear of judgment and public opinion. at the moment, he’s hiding from the world, so while the situation stirs some conversation, it doesn’t affect him as much. still, part of him wonders if coming back would be the right choice, and whether the company will even support that decision, given the reactions it might provoke. he wants to continue his career, but there’s a real risk that the company might not be on board. there’s a lot happening behind the scenes that you guys are not yet seeing (obviously). i feel like there are many conflicts within the company right now, and a lot of unresolved questions. despite the time they've spent on this, they still seem quite uncertain about what steps to take next.
when it comes to the actual question of whether he will return to the group, it feels like some more time needs to pass, as there seems to be some legal matters happening behind the scenes. i’m not sure if the company entered a legal battle or took some legal action regarding the scandal, but it seems that something involving the justice or legal system needs to be resolved first. i’m also sensing that a superior or higher-up will make the final decision about his return. it’s going to be a very carefully considered choice, and there’s still this energy of needing to think things through deeply before taking any action. i feel like the main reason nothing is happening at the moment is due to these legal matters. once those are settled, it seems like things will start moving forward for this idol.
over the next four months, it feels like he’s going to have the support of a feminine energy in his life, someone who will stand by him throughout everything. but i sense that he’s going to grow very tired of the situation. he seems frustrated with not being able to speak up or have much say in what’s happening, and this might lead him to reconsider many aspects of his career and his place in the group. i feel like he may even try to talk to the company about it.
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lasi-nariyoyoreads · 1 year ago
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Will Seunghan eventually come back to riize? If so, which months (this year/next year) would be significant relating to him? (riize fans)
Justice, rev devil, the empress
Justice appeared, I'll take that as a good omen.
It's possible there might be some legal issues, maybe they'll find out who is spreading that pics/videos and file a lawsuit against them.
The devil reversed points to a new awareness of the unhealthy mechanisms that were trapping you.
I guess this might imply he's in a process where he's reconsidering a lot of things: his past behaviour (personally I don't think there's anything to reevaluate about it but whatever), the people he trusts because it's clear someone close betrayed him and stuff like that.
The empress is usually linked to creativity, so he might come back as a better artist, he might be taking this time to idk write lyrics or train his dance or anything linked to that.
These cards seem all relatively positive, but when it comes to SM I'd keep a more realistic look and wait for how the situation will evolve.
As for time periods, according to the cards, either very soon, around this winter or later on in summer/autumn.
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theninthdoor · 1 year ago
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hi ♡
May I get a reading on Seunghan’s of RIIZE current situation and his mental condition? Is SM perhaps making him practice more or do some media training? I hope it’s not too much for you to do. Thank you in advance ♥︎
cards: the hierophant, ten of swords, the chariot, six of swords, two of swords rx
he's been having a pretty hard time ever since he & SME realized how big of a deal this really is. the company is not playing around anymore, as I definitely see them reprimanding him quite harshly. it's strange because I don't feel them being as mad at him for what he did, but moreso for the headache it has given them - with other companies and idols being involved, too. THAT is what SME is really worried and angry about. I do see him getting some more media training, yes, and perhaps some other type of guidance (more personal? some kind of tutoring/therapy idk). -- also, I've been trying to figure out why I keep getting the idea that they are physically taking him away somewhere, but it could just be that they're keeping him separate from the other members? or even away from the company? and his parents might be involved in this decision, too, as well as in the tutoring/therapy thing.
anyway, for now he's laying low, and behaving as good as he possibily can, as I truly believe he wants to prove than he deserves to keep his spot in RIIZE.
to be honest, he's just a reckless, immature kid, and this might not be the end of this mischief… in fact, this kinda gives me the idea of someone who's doing what he's told, but rolling his eyes in annoyance whenever the others turn their backs. the 'hard time' he's having is moreso a result of the fact that he's being so scrutinized and controlled, and him hating that. with time he'll change, I'm sure, but this situation still wasn't enough for him to want to change his ways for good.
(Disclaimer: All is alleged and for entertainment purposes only. Based on current energies.)
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gem-de-lune · 12 days ago
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Vibe Check
Eunseok
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The Lovers + Knave of Pentacles + 3 of Pentacles
He is doing very well. He's relaxed. There's some insistent group level communication going on atm that may indicate preparation and collaboration of some sort. So preparing for a CB maybe? Just in early stages OR just in concept talks/being shown possible tracks, etc... this also has something acutely to do with the current situation of course, and I think there is some sort of group endeavor or effort to pull something off here. It's giving ragtag team but with good guidance.
Seunghan
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The Wheel + 5 of Pentacles
He is doing Meh but is putting on a good face atm. What you will notice as we go through these individual reads is that he is not seeing something the others are- which leads me to believe that whatever this ragtag plan is, he has little to nothing to do with it and that is likely on purpose to protect him- but he may be feeling ostracized due to this bc he cannot contribute or be involved- likely for legal reasons. Since he is kind of just paying attention to how he feels left out, again- I love this 5 of Pentacles bc whatever cards you pull next to it tells the story. He is kind of a bit negative rn but failing to see that this is just the wheel turning its course- most likely into an upright position. Like he fails to see that everything is being set up for a good outcome and it is just taking time. Of course- he does know this deep down- but as we all have our emotional off days- he is just having that.
Anton
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Knight of Wands + 3 of Chalices + King of Wands
So again- Anton has a similar vibe to Eunseok but just a lot more active and excited in a....young way. Like childlike. Very Aries coded. With the Knight there is clear intent towards moving forward to a goal, and this will be done in a gregarious group. Again- giving ragtag team. And AGAIN with the King popping up- they have good guidance (could be from the woman helping the. we speak abt often- whom I have mentioned Anton in particular looks up to a lot for support). Like Eunseok, he is in a good state atm. Very healthy and energetic.
SM current energy
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The Chariot + The Hermit + 6 of Chalices
This is VERY interesting. Your girl gasped when this popped out. The consensus is there is a lot of internal fishing being done to cut out what has been holding them back to mobe forward. Ofc- this Chariot does not pop out when I am reading for this situation unless it is specifically regarding OT7 Riize. I think there is finally a big enough shift in the higher ups perception of the situation to warrant serious talks. I pulled the 6 of Chalices for clarification on if this meant something good about Seunghan's return to the group- which is a yes. This is a nostalgic card. In this context I would say it is looking back on the past fondly...because it showed up in a pull with the chariot and hermit- it is "thinking of returning to the past". It's a very positive omen and very powerful energy due to the 2 major arcana here.
Current Plan (Progress)
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The Emperor + King of Pentacles + 6 of Pentacles
See this is interesting again. This confirms the earlier pulls for Eunseok and Anton. Right now someone at the forefront is running the show like crazy. This is the busiest they've ever been because things are beginning to produce results in the physical realm. I pulled 6 of pentacles to clarify about the producers and songwriters who were suddenly viewing and liking stories- to clarify is this was a part of the plan, which I would say that yes it kiiinda is but not specifically- it just ended up that way in a broad sense. It is like those people extending their support quietly.
SMTOWN Concert
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9 of Pentacles + The Tower [Queen of Swords]
Some people were asking about what to expect during the SMTown concert. This is very "two sides of a coin" to me. We have the women facing each other in the 9 of Pentacles and the Tower. One is satisfied and the other is devastated. The one who is devastated may be louder or just more jarring and disruptive. This is indicative of our current situation within the fandom, I think. Either side will feel like a winner or loser. I pulled the Queen here to ask which side it would be- and I personally view this as the OT💩 side because the Queen of Swords is a card I have pulled for them before in my reading where I did "how Riize feels abt OT💩 vs OT7" and when the queen is in her negative state she is needlessly ruthless and unempathetic- causing a lot of harm to others through strategic plans and foul self serving intentions. So there is that. I think the event will bring a lot of divisiveness if anything at all, even if it isn't OT💩 vs OT7.
Bottom of the Deck
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7 of Wands + 4 of Wands
This is kinda reiterating what we know from the reading. There is some kind of group effort for push through and persevere here. It's feeling like a reunification of sorts. The effort to show how successful it is has been very positively received by the intended audience (SM higher ups and C5) to the point where pushback is very minimal. It is more about laying the groundwork and coming up with a plan all can agree to in order to proceed without letting the same things happen yet again. One thing SM will not allow- is for the same thing to happen where they have to be embarrassed the same exact way. Their pride has been hurt too much for that to transpire again. So they will reatreat inward and thoroughly ensure to double down no matter which path they choose.
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feuillesss · 1 month ago
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Every time I see a new picture of him it hurts my soul, y'all please keep boycotting, don't let a few pictures change that. Not until Seunghan is back in Riize, and gets the justice he deserves.
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shotanzz · 3 months ago
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THE CURRENT/FUTURE STATE OF RIIZE
based on astrology/tarot
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Authors Note: In this reading I will be reading and making prediction about the current/future state of Riize as well as mentioning seunghan and his situation in this reading in order to give insight to those who requested it, in the astrological area of the reading I will be using whole sign.
Let's get the elephant out of the room and discuss Seunghan. There are a couple of transits that firmly show this situation regarding him. Mars associated with conflict, harm, fighting, arguments and in hellenistic astrology separation is transiting Riize's 6th house which is associated with coworkers and the work environment. This transit within itself eludes to Seunghan's severance and departure of the group and the possible conflicts and damage control regarding it. Mars is also sextile Uranus which shows the sudden and quick impact and deciding factors of this. Mercury aspecting Saturn can be associated with difficult news and decisions and currently these planets are transiting their 10th house of career and reputation as well as the 2nd house of income..there's definitely money and company semantics as well as an attempt to preserve something involved with the situation.
GROUP TRANSITS/PREDICTIONS:
Mercury transiting the 10th house in scorpio, there could be a lot of talk about the group in itself within the next month as well as people trying to “investigate” what the company could possibly be doing behind the scenes due to a lack of explanation and communication, tabloids + rumors + exposed info could be prevalent
Saturn will be direct and leave their 2nd house of income finances soon and transit through their 3rd house of communication, immediate environment, familiar spaces, minor travel and friends. The members might not travel as much as they previously did or their travels may be limited to certain areas as well. There might be a change in the groups social media presence/activity
Pluto is currently direct and will be transiting into their 1st house of identity, self and how they project their image soon. the group might do a complete change in aesthetics, look and style or deconstruct and rebuild their gimmick/concept and it might cause a ripple effect
Jupiter is currently retrograde in their 5th house of creations/creativity, artistic pursuits, fun, entertainment and is aspecting Saturn. the group might have to rethink or redo the creative direction they’ll take and their events or comebacks might take longer or are delayed. they also may gain attention and have to base their creations on what is bringing them the most attention
Jupiter will also soon transit their 6th house of work environment, coworkers, responsibilities, service/servitude, health and routine in 2025. We may hear about them getting new staff or workers, they may be in better working conditions/schedules, they could be very booked and busy and have a lot to do or take care of, their overall group health will be favorable but there might be some minor injuries
Mars will soon transit their 7th house and retrograde back into their 6th so there might be changes in contracts (for example cutting off a contract w/ a certain brand) or changes in power within them, as well as maybe cutting ties w/ certain staff and employees
GROUP ENERGY READING
Do I have consent for this reading: Ace Of Cups & The Moon; Yes ! but I must keep the members anonymous.
MEMBER A:
( The Emperor, KoS, 7oW, 4oS, The Hanged Man, AoS Rx, Death, and 4oP)
Stoicism stoicism stoicism. This member just wants to hold things together until all this chaos passes. They feel as though there’s no point in trying to control what they can’t and that they should only control what they can which is their self and their feelings. I’m hearing “I know that things won’t be the same”. He really just wants to keep his mental in check and surrender to the changes around him. However it’s not giving a “defeated energy”; this member refuses to let his mental health drown too bad and even if he can’t be the happiest atm he knows he shouldn’t let himself wear himself out with the possible stress and upset
MEMBER B:
( Justice Rx, 2oP Rx, 5oC, Judgement Rx, 4oC, 7oS, 10oC Rx, 9oC Rx, AoC Rx, 2oS)
He feels blindsighted and deceived and as if things genuinely didn’t go as planned. He might have been convinced by someone or convinced himself that things would be smooth sailing for the rest of the year and that the past issues and problems wouldn’t be something to deal with anymore. There’s a big contemplation and thinking about the “unfairness” of everything. He feels like everyone involved and being impacted has been done wrong and there wasn’t unfiltered honesty about everything. I’m hearing the phrase “stand up” he wants there to be accountability taken by someone specific..rather than a team of people ? A staff or manager maybe ? I pulled another card and the King of Pentacles came out so ???
MEMBER C :
( 8oC, 8oW, 9oS, Wheel of Fortune, The High Priestess, 4oC, The Hermit, 2oW/ Channeled Song: She Knows - Jcole)
This person feels like they saw this chaos coming. It’s as if this was a “worst case scenario/nightmare” idea that they’d always come back to in the back of their mind that’s finally came to fruition. Similar to Member A they mainly want to keep themselves level headed and let things play out whether if it’s for better or worse. He’s in a very observant energy. He may have a “deeper”understanding of the situation than the others so he might seem like he’s “ok” and “moving forward” when really he’s extremely in his head..as if he’s on the “outside looking in”, he’s detached himself almost so he won’t get stuck “like he did before” im hearing
MEMBER D:
(5oS, 8oS, 2oC Rx, The Empress Rx, QoC Rx, 10oS, The Lovers Rx, 5oP/ Channeled song: Afraid - The Neighborhood)
They feel on edge and uncomfortable right now. It’s like they’re anticipating on what’s gonna happen next and how it’s going to happen. I’m hearing the channeled song and the phrase “im so over it”. The best thing I can compare this energy to is when you have a terrible day at school/work but when you get home there’s more things to deal with, or when you’re constantly arguing or bumping heads with someone and don’t care anymore. There’s also a negative critical feminine energy that this member feels turned their back on him or this female energy keeps doing things that goes against his wants/wishes. There isn’t a romantic tie to this feminine energy tho..but the member is making it seem that’s it’s obvious who it is but I don’t really know and they won’t elaborate so I’ll just close off here.
MEMBER E:
(The Sun, The Chariot, 8oP, 10oW, The Devil, 2oP, KnoC)
This member is giving me the least info and im hearing “you already know the deal” so I guess the assumptions I have towards how he feels atm is good enough. This member feels overwhelmed and definitely is trying to manage and keep himself emotionally and mentally above water . But, it’s as though he’s bound by a responsibility..he’s being the most optimistic as he can be and just wants to move forward. It’s like he’s trying to keep himself happy and busy while also dealing with the motions of everything. He may also be putting his feelings aside for how and is more busy comforting everyone around him who’s feeling more upset and frustrated.
MEMBER F:
(The Moon, The Star Rx, 6oW Rx, 7oP, 6oP, Strength Rx, 7oC, AoP)
This member feels pretty unstable and similar to Member B they feel disillusioned. They hate how up and down everything has been. They’re very disappointed on how things are turning out because they were just so much more optimistic about everything after a long period of being unsure just to be unsure and feeling a lack of security again. They’re very aware or mostly thinking about the financial aspect of things too and are feeling a lack of security there as well. Just a very disappointed and melancholic energy..similar to when you get bad news you don’t have any say over. They’re trying not to be pessimistic but they can’t help it
MEMBER G:
( The Fool Rx, 3oS, 5oW, 3oP Rx, 3oC Rx, 9oW, Justice, 8oW, 6oC, 10oP Channeled Song: Are We Still Friends- Tyler the Creator & Sorry Not Sorry - Tyler the Creator)
Member G lowkey wants to go home or wants to go somewhere or be in a place mentally where they can feel more relaxed again. Im hearing the phrase “things were much more simpler”. They might also be in disagreement with a lot of people or people might have a lot of misconceptions about everything and he doesn’t like the fact that people are getting the wrong idea about how everything is. He might also feel a bit disconnected from everyone and that includes coworkers and people in his inner circle. For the channeled songs it’s making me feel as if this member feels almost guilty and so apologetic but not apologetic at the same time ? like he knows he doesn’t need to feel all this pressure and guilt but does
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haniiseokjjang · 2 months ago
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DONT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY!!!
Shout out to Nori btw🗣️
Okay, so there's energy that encircles seunghan that says he wants to start fresh, to start clean, he wants to step into a new chapter of his life where people are willing to accept him for who he is and also there could potentially be a change in his contract... about what? I don't know either, and for right now hes doing some normal people stuff like working part-time and he kind of study for something maybe for university/school???
What else there did Nori tell me...
Yea someone fought... kinda argue with SM and Nori thinks that it might be sungchan??? and everything that RIIZE is doing right now are all from the management, RIIZE just follow everything that the management asks them to
Oh, and seunghan wants to go back with RIIZE because of sohee... (I know, this seems unexpected, doesnt it?) But it was one of his reasons to be back with the group both of them have a really deep link with each other, and seunghan has great views for a member as well he looks at them as a nice friend (anton or eunseok???)
Nori also said he wants to return in 2026... only if SM wants to protect him and it'll probably be in summer? could be may jun july or august, so thats the energy she got for now
And before I forget everything, there's a strong loving energy from the female source (doesn't necessarily imply it comes from the girl), but it's very likely from you guys, his female fans.
Hes so thankful to you guys btw
But what matters here is that she's pushing you all to keep going with the boycott for the ones who dont idk just do whatever u want bc we here dont support bully
tag: @alexa54
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trolagygirl2022 · 3 months ago
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Seunghan situation
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Yeah I feel like Seunghan definitely asked to leave the group. I think that the company tried to get him back but the amount of backlash he got was more than they were expecting. So I think he was like "I'll leave, it'll be for the best for everyone". It really got to him. I see him being very aware of what's going on so he's seeing the posts and he's been really really hurt by it. His energy is really down and sad, it's like someone is pulling on his heart right now. I don't think it will be the end of his career entirely though, he might come back as a solo artist or maybe do a few gigs in the future. It will take a while for him to come back again. I see some female or someone with feminine energy helping him during this rough time in his life.
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outsidereveries · 14 days ago
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In your opinion, after the protests from some fans regarding the unfair treatment Seunghan has received, do you think SM will graciously reinstate him to his team? Even though we know this isn’t typically SM's style, can you sense any positive energy around this situation? Pls i beg you
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ace of swords, the tower, king of cups, the empress rx, the high priestess, 4 of cups, 6 of cups, the star, queen of pentacles
yes, eventually seunghan will return to riize, but it will take a few months (at least for now). even though the former member has come to terms with the current circumstances, the group has not and really wants him back. as i have mentioned before (both here and in perch), the riize guys regret that while seunghan was on hiatus, they didn't communicate and now they just want him back, especially anton. at some point things will escalate in a similar way to how they escalated with loona's comeback, which never happened in the end. i also see a piece of advice i can give to riize and that is to not stop boycotting. there is another account here that only asks about the guys in the group after seunghan left riize. listen to them and keep boycotting the group. even better advice i can give, be like loona's fandom, the orbits. learn from them and take their approach straight away. on the next comeback, reduce album sales to a three-digit number if possible, don't watch their videos anywhere (and if they come up on tiktok, ignore them. don't like the videos there either), don't stream their songs on spotify, deezer and similar platforms, download their songs illegally if you like riize. don't like their photos, don't watch their live videos. at most comment that you're boycotting the group. i don't see any point in boycotting the other sme groups unless it's revealed that the company has committed a terrible sin, and I doubt that will happen for now. In short, yes, he will eventually return to the group after a while (months for now), if you continue to boycott the group and the content they're uploading. screw up the group's algorithm on social medias so you can bring seunghan back.
note: sorry for answering almost 2 months later | 15.12.2024
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timetraveltodystopia · 2 months ago
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hii! are the other riize members keeping in touch with seunghan?
Are the other RIIZE members keeping in touch with Seunghan?
Cards: the sun (rx), the eight of pentacles (rx), overall energy, knight of swords.
Okay I'm going to say it bluntly, NO. It's just because of the "controversy" put it that way, the managers are not letting speak RIIZE members to Seunghan and they are sad, they are a little bit depressed. I think SM it's playing safe and it's not letting not even his and coworkers talk to him. But there is this energy inside them, inside of the members that they want to talk so much to Seunghan, to see if he is okay.
There's a toxic environment in the air, and it lets Seunghan neglect and the members separate from him. They RIIZE members, and all seven are sad, honestly.
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divinesangel · 3 months ago
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omg u were right in the end abt seunghan. can u tell us more about his choice. was it the threats that did it? or was he more concerned abt the group's reputation?
— seunghan's decision to leave riize
it seems that, when it came to his decision, he felt overwhelmed by it all. as I mentioned in my reading on him, he was trying to be more positive, to look forward with hope, but it seems that everything eventually took its toll on him. it felt like the situation reached a point where he saw no way to turn things around. it doesn't appear to have been a rushed decision; it feels like something he might have been contemplating for quite some time, which is also something I noted in my reading. the public's reaction was something he anticipated—he knew that, sooner or later, a moment like this might come. however, there were certain things said about him that he didn't expect. still, it seems that the core of his choice was rooted in the feeling that it was all becoming too much. i also feel like he got to a point where he put things into perspective and saw the unfairness of the situation.
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ravenbloodshot · 8 months ago
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my assumption is riize has a good team dynamic
False
Idk if this is a manager, or the wants of SM but I'm seeing other people being heavily involved in watching over the group that may push them to keep a good figure, diet or starve themselves to look a certain way. Idky, this group has the energy of constantly competing in a beauty contest. It could just be how SM is trying to market Riize to be the ultimate heart throbs and pretty boys, but the atmosphere around them is not healthy.
Seunghan showed up in this reading, he's most definitely separated from the group (not just in the music videos etc... but behind the scenes as well , he's likely not allowed to communicate with the members). Sadly, this is a "every man for himself" vibe I'm getting from Riize, so if Seunghan never returns to the group, its just gonna be business as usual for the other members.
I'm not saying they only see each other as coworkers. That's not it. Whoever is managing them wants them to only see each other as coworkers.
P.S. Seunghan is a goner. He's not coming back
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lasi-nariyoyoreads · 1 year ago
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Hii can you do a reading on what the kpop idol world think of the scandals that are going on with seunghan of riize ?
Cards: 6 of cups, death, queen of swords
There isn't a negative opinion on him, rather they might feel bad for him.
6 of cups is a card that refers to childhood, friends and family, they might want him to pay more attention to the people close to him or they think he trusted too much the wrong people. It's possible they see him too tied to people that he should let go.
Death indicates a drastic change, so they might expect him to reconsider his past acquaintances and become much more careful about who he lets close to him.
Some idols, probably seniors or in general those older than him, might feel a sense of protection toward him, I feel some of them might be in a position where they want to lecture and guide him.
Think of a parent who sees their child fall and hurt their knee. The parent begins to complain on how the child should've been more careful. There might be a bit of these strong approaches in this situation, definitely everyone would've very much preferred he had paid more attention to whoever he's hanging out with.
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nanaartemis · 1 month ago
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hi! do you think there is still a chance for seunghan coming back to riize? thank you!
Hi!
I do truly believe there’s a chance but ot7 briize need to keep going with the boycott and be louder than ot6 cause sm now is watching everything
So please keep going and don’t lose faith!
Seunghan can still come back if you keep going with the boycott!
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gem-de-lune · 16 days ago
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Vibe Check 12/12
Teenie Read: Sungchan
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6 of Swords + 4 of Swords + Temperance [The Stars]
This is the combination of 3 questions. Firstly in regards to Sungchan's current state- he is generally well. He seems to be in a resting period of transition. He is calm though- very collected. Very put together. In comparison to the previous read for him he seems a lot more active in that he was actively seeking something or to solve something with others. But in this case, it's like that has already wrapped up, and things are in the process of moving without him having to really do much else. It's active in the sense of finding the path out of the storm and confidently making his way there.
With the 4 of Swords and Temperance these are supportive with the question of if there are any recent developments. It basically just reiterated the 6 of Swords but offered more perspective. As stated, he is not AS active because there is not much else to do other than follow the path and wait. Little by little something is brewing, so he is currently resting and preparing. There's a lot of "knowing" energy here. He is kinda secretive this time- or vague. But the general consensus is that there is something in place it is just going to be better to step away from negativity and chaos to let it play out.
This was confirmed for me with the Stars card which I asked in regards to having anything more he wanted to share in particular. The words "wait a bit, have some faith" popped out when reading this all together. Everything will balance out eventually- I think he is aware of this.
SM Current Energy regarding the situation
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6 of Pentacles + 9 of Pentacles
I am feeling as though there has been a majority shift in a very specific way- pentacles...meaning money. They are looking at things for the long term as always. They are beginning to look at what is more profitable for the long term and realistically the growth they would like to accomplish. This has a lot to do with their saturn return in the 9th house i feel- and I am thinking they are seeing Seunghan has a moneymaker this way or a way to achieve this stability bc Riize is currently not stable. Specifically, I think they may believe the long-term benefits of his addition MAY contribute to a better outlook down the road. But it is just a sentiment, not a firm decision. Moreover- this sentiment seems to be very egotistical- in that as stated before- someone has convinced someone else who was against Seunghan's return- that this was their original thought. Oop.
What is the current plan to bring Seunghan back (from the people on his side at SM)
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10 of Pentacles + 6 of Wands + King of Swords
Money money money and winning. This is a smart individual ensuring that long term monetary goals are met and that someone feels some kind of acclaim. Very similar to what I mentioned above and in other readings. Stability and the feeling of triumph- with a lower emphasis on how the acrual effected individuals feel on a personal level is what will lead to success in Seunghan's return. The emotions of others hold no value to the King unless it is going to bring the Pentacles or victory (6 of wands). He is also egotistical. Right now it's about guiding someone like a puppet by using their desires like a dangling carrot. Showing the results they want to see and letting them speak for themself. They probably have data analysts making presentations on pros and cons.
Is there anything we can do to convince SM to bring him back atp?
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2 of Swords + 3 of Pentacles
Since this is a Yes/No question- the answer is Maybe. Right now, rather than focusing on convincing SM- it seems it is more important to create a more united front in the form of creative display or presentation of protest. Even if we try to convince SM- it seems that they have heard and seen all they need to see and hear. Right now we just need to back up the data and not mess up the statistics.
Oracle
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Sun + Taurus
Never much to add on with this oracle specifically bc it speaks for itself- but i would emphasize that riling up the conservative bull is what is needed to see results quickly- and that we need not be negative. Like Sungchan- he is sitting in positivity and manifesting his outcome after putting in the work. We should be doing the same and then some.
Bottom of the Deck
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King of Chalices + The Chariot
Sometimes I will flip another card on the bottom if it means something more, and yup, yup. I'm telling you rn....it is never a coincidence when cards like the Chariot continue to pop up over and over during readings for a specific topic. There is an emphasis on creativity and activity here. I read this in the last reading as well, but a creative project depicting all 7 members would be very impactful, is what I think.
Final Notes:
Sungchan is a Virgo and since I know Virgos verrrrrrrrry well (my bestie), if he is saying anything, he is saying to look at him and do as he does. Bc as a Virgo, he thinks yall can be dumb sometimes even if he finds it cute. Relax, wash your hands, clean your room. Don't be gross. Take a shot (if ur of age- chill) and chill out. This is a period in which resting is okay as long as we do not lose our passion. Take a break. Come back. Don't forget why we are doing this. Don't forget why we were so upset- because it was never about simply only wanting Seunghan back- it is about what having him back represented and still would represent: his innocence, changing of times, the legal accountability fans need to have on their foul actions, and the accountability the company needs to take for their idiotic choices. Don't forget, but don't be negative. Use positive rhetoric to show those things WILL happen- or rather, have already* happened.
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