#seunghan tarot

[timetraveltodystopia]

Will seunghan come back to riize?

Will Seunghan come back to RIIZE?

Cards: the hanged man, and the two of wands.

There's a future good prospect for the group. This decision let stuck SM after so many petitions of the international fans, stans and netizens of the comeback of Seunghan. In the meantime, he's out of the group or he will be in hiatus, but after that decision and wrong decision, because of the pressure of Knetizens, he will be back. He is probably reevaluating the big decision he will have to make and the big difficulties he will have to endure.

[divinesangel]

So… is seunghan ever returning to riize?

— is seunghan returning to riize?

it seems like there’s a chance for seunghan to return to the group and end the hiatus. he is trying to show the company that he can be reliable and stable, but the decision hasn’t been made yet. it feels like they’re still in the process of healing from the situation or scandal. i sense that the company might still be very disappointed in him because of what happened, and it seems to involve a woman? whether he was caught with her or if she played a role in the situation, it feels like both he and the company are disappointed that things have reached this point because of someone else. the company, in particular, seems to be struggling with accepting this and coming to terms with it. if you’re wondering whether he will return to the group this year, it feels like they’ve been considering it. the company has been thinking about what to do in his case because they feel like they need to make a decision, but the scandal still weighs heavily on them. they’re unsure whether bringing him back is the right choice, and that’s why they haven’t acted yet. it’s as if the scandal was just too much for them to handle, and they’re still questioning whether he deserves to rejoin the group.

the energy around seunghan feels unstable and uncertain because he’s currently going through a phase of loss. it seems like the incident that happened was something that completely shattered his world and surroundings, a sudden and drastic change. now, he’s trying to fix things, but there’s uncertainty about whether it’s even worth the effort. it’s as if he’s giving so much of himself to something that may not have a solution, like that feeling when you invest everything into something, only for nothing to happen, leaving you with a sense of loss and hopelessness. he wants to show others that he’s consistent and eager to move forward, but there’s a deep fear of failure and losing everything he has. for now, he’s staying strong and trying to maintain a positive outlook, expecting some sort of change. it feels like he’s been waiting for something to happen for a while, and there’s a desire within him to come clean, to expose himself, and maybe start over.

it seems like the waiting and uncertainty are really taking a toll on him. he’s feeling hurt and unhappy, because there are so many things he wants to do, but it feels like he’s unable to. if he leaves the group, it seems more likely that it will be his choice, not the company's. i sense there’s a chance he might leave because he’s growing tired of always waiting. it feels like he’s constantly waiting for someone from the company to approach him with an offer or a conclusion about everything.

as time passes, he seems to be focusing more on the future and what lies ahead. he’s very aware of his potential and knows he can achieve great things, which is why this situation is wearing him down. it feels like he’s walking on eggshells, hoping something will happen, but nothing is changing. he really wants to move into a better phase of his life and find the support he’s been needing, which he might not be receiving as much as he hoped for, or at least that’s how it feels to him right now.

when it comes to the idea of returning to the group, that’s where the confusion arises. he’s pondered it, but there’s a strong fear of judgment and public opinion. at the moment, he’s hiding from the world, so while the situation stirs some conversation, it doesn’t affect him as much. still, part of him wonders if coming back would be the right choice, and whether the company will even support that decision, given the reactions it might provoke. he wants to continue his career, but there’s a real risk that the company might not be on board. there’s a lot happening behind the scenes that you guys are not yet seeing (obviously). i feel like there are many conflicts within the company right now, and a lot of unresolved questions. despite the time they've spent on this, they still seem quite uncertain about what steps to take next.

when it comes to the actual question of whether he will return to the group, it feels like some more time needs to pass, as there seems to be some legal matters happening behind the scenes. i’m not sure if the company entered a legal battle or took some legal action regarding the scandal, but it seems that something involving the justice or legal system needs to be resolved first. i’m also sensing that a superior or higher-up will make the final decision about his return. it’s going to be a very carefully considered choice, and there’s still this energy of needing to think things through deeply before taking any action. i feel like the main reason nothing is happening at the moment is due to these legal matters. once those are settled, it seems like things will start moving forward for this idol.

over the next four months, it feels like he’s going to have the support of a feminine energy in his life, someone who will stand by him throughout everything. but i sense that he’s going to grow very tired of the situation. he seems frustrated with not being able to speak up or have much say in what’s happening, and this might lead him to reconsider many aspects of his career and his place in the group. i feel like he may even try to talk to the company about it.

[risathefairyofshampoo]

Will Seunghan return to RIIZE?

(March 31st, 2024)

Disclaimer: Everything is based on tarot and my intuition. I don't know these idols personally. Take everything that I say with a grain of salt. Let's get started! :)

Will Seunghan return to RIIZE?

Strength R, Nine of Swords, The Empress R, Five of Cups

As of now, no. I'm sensing a lot of regret. Might it be from Seunghan or the company

The current situation doesn't look that bright and hopeful! My cards show me a clear no, but I hope I'm just wrong.

How does Seunghan currently feel?

Two of Swords, Two of Pentacles, Nine of Pentacles R, The Fool, Three of Swords, The Hermit

He definitely thought and still thinks about ending things. Like not ending his life, no. That's not what I mean! I mean his idol life.

He feels very unsuccessful and dirty in a way... Guilt describes his feelings very well

But he is still hoping to get back and that everything will be fine again. He is really holding on to his idol life... He can't let go like that

He's definitely hurt. Like a lot. By his fans, the company, but also his ex. He never thought something like that would and could happen to him...

Seunghan is really trying to have a positive view, and maybe he sees a way to help him in this situation. Maybe some good signs from his company that he thinks about daily

[lasi-nariyoyoreads]

Will Seunghan eventually come back to riize? If so, which months (this year/next year) would be significant relating to him? (riize fans)

Justice, rev devil, the empress

Justice appeared, I'll take that as a good omen.

It's possible there might be some legal issues, maybe they'll find out who is spreading that pics/videos and file a lawsuit against them.

The devil reversed points to a new awareness of the unhealthy mechanisms that were trapping you.

I guess this might imply he's in a process where he's reconsidering a lot of things: his past behaviour (personally I don't think there's anything to reevaluate about it but whatever), the people he trusts because it's clear someone close betrayed him and stuff like that.

The empress is usually linked to creativity, so he might come back as a better artist, he might be taking this time to idk write lyrics or train his dance or anything linked to that.

These cards seem all relatively positive, but when it comes to SM I'd keep a more realistic look and wait for how the situation will evolve.

As for time periods, according to the cards, either very soon, around this winter or later on in summer/autumn.

[theninthdoor]

hi ♡

May I get a reading on Seunghan’s of RIIZE current situation and his mental condition? Is SM perhaps making him practice more or do some media training? I hope it’s not too much for you to do. Thank you in advance ♥︎

cards: the hierophant, ten of swords, the chariot, six of swords, two of swords rx

he's been having a pretty hard time ever since he & SME realized how big of a deal this really is. the company is not playing around anymore, as I definitely see them reprimanding him quite harshly. it's strange because I don't feel them being as mad at him for what he did, but moreso for the headache it has given them - with other companies and idols being involved, too. THAT is what SME is really worried and angry about. I do see him getting some more media training, yes, and perhaps some other type of guidance (more personal? some kind of tutoring/therapy idk). -- also, I've been trying to figure out why I keep getting the idea that they are physically taking him away somewhere, but it could just be that they're keeping him separate from the other members? or even away from the company? and his parents might be involved in this decision, too, as well as in the tutoring/therapy thing.

anyway, for now he's laying low, and behaving as good as he possibily can, as I truly believe he wants to prove than he deserves to keep his spot in RIIZE.

to be honest, he's just a reckless, immature kid, and this might not be the end of this mischief… in fact, this kinda gives me the idea of someone who's doing what he's told, but rolling his eyes in annoyance whenever the others turn their backs. the 'hard time' he's having is moreso a result of the fact that he's being so scrutinized and controlled, and him hating that. with time he'll change, I'm sure, but this situation still wasn't enough for him to want to change his ways for good.

(Disclaimer: All is alleged and for entertainment purposes only. Based on current energies.)

[gem-de-lune]

RIIZE AND SEUNGHAN TAROT READING

Hey all, with this discourse going on, I have been feeling pretty anxious/stressed and wanted to do a tarot reading regarding Seunghan's return to Riize.

Disclaimer: the future is always changing. Do not take my words as law.

I will not be posting a ton of pictures of the cards but I will mention each card and my explainations.

The decks used in this reading:

Rider Waite Tarot (I will indicate as RWT and cards pulled from this deck will be this color)

Book of Shadows Tarot Vol. 2 (I will post photos of these cards and cards from this deck will be written in this color)

How is Riize (the remaining 6) feeling about this situation?

Here I pulled the 8 of swords and the Empress in reverse.

This much is obvious but they feel like their hands have been tied, they feel hoplessness and dissatisfaction. With the reverse Empress it truly feels as though they could not protect and nurture something the way they wanted to do.

I also asked how they feel about the hatred and atrocities committed by "fans" against Seunghan. For this, I pulled the 4 of Cups, Ace of Wands in reverse, and the High Priestess. Yall- these boys are big mad. Through this we can kinda see the progression of how they are feeling towards the people responsible for the wreaths and hating/bullying Seunghan. At first it was more like a sunlky feeling they could somewhat ignore. Then they had gone ahead and took action against it (Ace of Wands-Wonbin's post). And now they are just livid and stonefaced.

There is a very big change in how RIIZE is viewing their Korean fanbase and their culture at the moment. It is almost like "you'll get what's coming to you" like a silent threat with a death glare. Ususally I think the High Priestess could lean more positive and introspective and vague- but right here it's more like "i cannot say out loud what I know to be true". They are not happy with K-fans.

How does Seunghan feel?

I have pulled the 4 of Pentacles reversed and the 5 of Cups reversed.

He feels that he needs to be honest and earnest at this time. He is currently in the process of healing mentally from all of this and is trying to forgive himself by accepting things. But honestly I see here it is being forced. Not that he is working on himself- but that he is forced to do so in this manner. If you know the RWT cards you know that the 5 of cups shows 3 spilt cups and 2 cups behind the man who is wallowing in the loss.

This being reversed doesn't indicate to me that he is not wallowing- but rather that he is finding it necessary to tip the cups over. And the two cups behind the man in the card to me- scream emotional manipulation. If anyone was thinking Seunghan was pressured into leaving by someone close- I think you are correct.

After thinking this, I pulled a clarification from the Book of Shadows deck to ask if Seunghan came to the decision to leave on his own. I pulled the 8 of swords.

Though in different decks- we all understand this means hands being tied- or a certain hopelessness. Not only is that a "No" to my question, but it means Seunhan did not leave on his own volition. He left after being emotionally drained by a specific person or small group of people he directly engaged with.

I also pulled cards for whether Seunghan knows the extent to which people are supporting him and if he does, how does he feel about that. I pulled the Devil, 7 of Cups, and the Star in reverse.

This poor dude is hopeless. Not only is he unaware of the MASSIVE amounts of people on his side- or rather he is ignoring it because he is depressed- but he just doesn't understand anything. I think he is bombarded with so many different views and seems overwhelmed. But i am seeing a very heavy energy that feels like depression and self deprication at the hands of others. He is unable to feel our hope for him at this time at least as I do this reading.

How does SM Ent feel?

I pulled the 5 of Swords, and 4 of swords reversed.

The consensus here is that SM believes they have won some sort of battle- but they fully acknowledge it was at a specific hefty cost they may not have taken the time to truly understand beforehand. With the 5 of swords we see the worry upon letting Seunghan leave the group. And with the 4 of swords rx we see that even though they should be recovering- it is not happening in their favor. In other words, they are feeling conflicted and like the consequenses of their actions could prove to be catastrophic. But they are also not extremely concerned. It is more like a nagging feeling and slower recovery than anticipated. They thought removing Seunghan would lead to immediate recovery. But it did not go as planned.

What will Riize do? (The remaining 6)

Here I have pulled the Knight of Cups in reverse, the Tower in reverse, and the 7 of Swords in reverse.

They mean BUSINESS guys. I mean not rlly but they are not about to let this go. Emotionally, they are going through the ringer. The Knight reversed meaning they are allowing whatever dominant emotion is present to take the reigns and lead the war. The tower reversed symbolizes a lack of acceptance for an outcome. And the 7 of Swords reversed shows they are not willing to be tricked, manipulated, bamboozled, etc etc...they have thoughts of a plan and the plan is to not listen to anything until they get their desired results. I almost wanted to look at every member to get a better look at the individuals, but honestly, I don't think it's needed. I see that many of them were not crying because they literally were so livid that their sole focus was setting things right. Which I think is why they only just started removing those wreaths when they came back.

What will Seunghan do?

Here I have pulled the Moon, the King of Cups, and the Sun reversed.

Seunghan seems very unconfrontational. He goes with the flow. He will do whatever the decision ends up being but i do not see him taking action and I dont think he is very optimistic about things. As stated before he seems very depressed and this contributes to how he will be acting. If things go good or bad he is basically at the whim of others. He is transparent about how he feels, honest and understanding. People tend to take advantage of this trait in him.

What will SM do?

So here we are at the money question. Here I pulled the 9 of Wands, 10 of Cups, and Judgement. I also pulled the 8 of Wands from the Book of Shadows deck to clarify the 9 of Wands card.

The 9 of wands is a good sign. It alludes to standing your ground and planting roots. This being next to the 10 of cups and Judgements tells me this is a decision they are thinking very intently about and that it will bring emotional fulfillment to a large collective. The reason why I think it is positive is because the 8 of wands being the clarifyer says this is a rapid development that I don't think has transpired yet. And for this to be a decision that has the collective happy, it means Riize has to be happy about it themselves as it involves them.

Looking further into this, I asked what actions they intended to take regarding Seunghan. For this I pulled the King of Pentacles reversed and 9 of Pentacles. I see this as a "turning around the situation" moment. There has been a lot of back and forth and I see it transpiring once more. As we know, these companies care the most about money. I believe that they are starting to understand that recouperating Korean fans is something that can come with continued popularity, but the distaste that International fans now have towards the group will not help Riize grow globally. They will approach this decision and agree to it due to money at the end of the day.

For further clarification on this (what SM will do regarding Seunghan) i pulled the Magician from the Book of shadows deck.

They are COOKING. Dunno what, but they are cooking. Pulled the King of Swords and Justice to ask what they are cooking. Looks like a lawsuit! Lol lowkey kidding but maybe. Basically a lot of planning to take a stand of some kind so it will outwardly appear like a moral case. They will plan thoroughly whatever it may be.

Lastly, I also asked if they would continue to prioritize Korean fans and pulled the Queen of Chalices from the Book of Shadows deck.

In the RW deck this may have been more positive but in this context for this Book of Shadows deck, they will be treating them like a headache. Almost like there is too much emotion and too much turmoil. They will comfort them, but they are not a priority as SM cares about growth than feelings when it comes to fans.

The outcome:

Here i have pulled the 6 of cups (RWT).

We have a very positive omen. Especially with the 6 of Cups which is a nostalgia card. It reminds me of all the compilations of Seunghan's time in Riize before hiatus, all his interations with members, and their happier days, etc... I think we can hope for a decent outcome here.

I also pulled the 9 of Chalices from the Book of Shadows deck when I asked if Seunghan would rejoin the group. NOT JUST A YES BUT A CELEBRATORY YES! (Do not quote me tho)

Lastly as clarification for the "how" I pulled the 2 of Pentacles from the Book of Shadows deck as well.

The 2 in this deck and in context here signifies careful deliberate "measuring" to reach a desired outcome. So THEY'RE LITERALLY COOKING. Lol.

My personal opinion:

I truly hope all goes well. Based on this reading it looks like that will be the case and more. I hope the future does not stray from this negatively. I truly hope Seunghan heals and gets the support he needs, and I hope SM realizes their mistakes. I do hope he returns to the group- but I would simply be satisfied as long as the members are satisfied.

FINAL NOTES AND THOUGHTS ON THE SEUNGHAN SITUATION AS A WHOLE AND NEXT STEPS:

All in all, I want to remind yall that this situation is not just about Seunghan but every Idol who has gone through "controversy". I urge yall to limit interactions with SM groups until this conflict has been resolved. I am not asking you all to delete their music, dont listen to Aespa's comeback, nor conpletely stonewall. But we need to show SM that this behavior is unacceptable. Seunghan is not the first and will not be the last idol to be demonized for doing normal things in the eyes of Korean teens. We cannot allow companies to continue to tarnish the reputation of Kpop as a whole if we want our groups to be respected as artists. Idols are not dolls or toys, they are people. Again- Seunghan is not the first person to face inhumane treatment that has gone unprotected by the company. There was Baekhyun, Taeyeon, Karina, Chen, people fully kicked out of groups, Lucas, Sulli, and many more both in and out of SM all because of what Koreans had to say.

Kpop is not a 100% Korean production. The only thing Korean in Kpop is the language and the artist, if even that. Kpop requires the skills, money, talents, and music from foreign people and entities to even function nowadays. Even if Seunghan does not return- we need to ensure this will never happen again so easily. This is to protect them. Losing a few numbers on 1 cb will not disband an SM group. They still have to make money. A cb costs less than debuting new groups. No SM group's career will end just because of a month or two long boycott.

If you will, please just limit consumption and do not buy albums right away. If you have placed orders for albums, refund them. They will still exist later. If you bought concert tickets- keep them- because those will not exist later. Please use your critical thinking and do your best to support the cause because it will benefit all idols in the long run.

Thank you for reading this and I hope yall enjoyed the reading!

RIIZE IS 7!!

[sh0tanzz]

THE CURRENT/FUTURE STATE OF RIIZE

based on astrology/tarot

Authors Note: In this reading I will be reading and making prediction about the current/future state of Riize as well as mentioning seunghan and his situation in this reading in order to give insight to those who requested it, in the astrological area of the reading I will be using whole sign.

Let's get the elephant out of the room and discuss Seunghan. There are a couple of transits that firmly show this situation regarding him. Mars associated with conflict, harm, fighting, arguments and in hellenistic astrology separation is transiting Riize's 6th house which is associated with coworkers and the work environment. This transit within itself eludes to Seunghan's severance and departure of the group and the possible conflicts and damage control regarding it. Mars is also sextile Uranus which shows the sudden and quick impact and deciding factors of this. Mercury aspecting Saturn can be associated with difficult news and decisions and currently these planets are transiting their 10th house of career and reputation as well as the 2nd house of income..there's definitely money and company semantics as well as an attempt to preserve something involved with the situation.

GROUP TRANSITS/PREDICTIONS:

Mercury transiting the 10th house in scorpio, there could be a lot of talk about the group in itself within the next month as well as people trying to “investigate” what the company could possibly be doing behind the scenes due to a lack of explanation and communication, tabloids + rumors + exposed info could be prevalent

Saturn will be direct and leave their 2nd house of income finances soon and transit through their 3rd house of communication, immediate environment, familiar spaces, minor travel and friends. The members might not travel as much as they previously did or their travels may be limited to certain areas as well. There might be a change in the groups social media presence/activity

Pluto is currently direct and will be transiting into their 1st house of identity, self and how they project their image soon. the group might do a complete change in aesthetics, look and style or deconstruct and rebuild their gimmick/concept and it might cause a ripple effect

Jupiter is currently retrograde in their 5th house of creations/creativity, artistic pursuits, fun, entertainment and is aspecting Saturn. the group might have to rethink or redo the creative direction they’ll take and their events or comebacks might take longer or are delayed. they also may gain attention and have to base their creations on what is bringing them the most attention

Jupiter will also soon transit their 6th house of work environment, coworkers, responsibilities, service/servitude, health and routine in 2025. We may hear about them getting new staff or workers, they may be in better working conditions/schedules, they could be very booked and busy and have a lot to do or take care of, their overall group health will be favorable but there might be some minor injuries

Mars will soon transit their 7th house and retrograde back into their 6th so there might be changes in contracts (for example cutting off a contract w/ a certain brand) or changes in power within them, as well as maybe cutting ties w/ certain staff and employees

GROUP ENERGY READING

Do I have consent for this reading: Ace Of Cups & The Moon; Yes ! but I must keep the members anonymous.

MEMBER A:

( The Emperor, KoS, 7oW, 4oS, The Hanged Man, AoS Rx, Death, and 4oP)

Stoicism stoicism stoicism. This member just wants to hold things together until all this chaos passes. They feel as though there’s no point in trying to control what they can’t and that they should only control what they can which is their self and their feelings. I’m hearing “I know that things won’t be the same”. He really just wants to keep his mental in check and surrender to the changes around him. However it’s not giving a “defeated energy”; this member refuses to let his mental health drown too bad and even if he can’t be the happiest atm he knows he shouldn’t let himself wear himself out with the possible stress and upset

MEMBER B:

( Justice Rx, 2oP Rx, 5oC, Judgement Rx, 4oC, 7oS, 10oC Rx, 9oC Rx, AoC Rx, 2oS)

He feels blindsighted and deceived and as if things genuinely didn’t go as planned. He might have been convinced by someone or convinced himself that things would be smooth sailing for the rest of the year and that the past issues and problems wouldn’t be something to deal with anymore. There’s a big contemplation and thinking about the “unfairness” of everything. He feels like everyone involved and being impacted has been done wrong and there wasn’t unfiltered honesty about everything. I’m hearing the phrase “stand up” he wants there to be accountability taken by someone specific..rather than a team of people ? A staff or manager maybe ? I pulled another card and the King of Pentacles came out so ???

MEMBER C :

( 8oC, 8oW, 9oS, Wheel of Fortune, The High Priestess, 4oC, The Hermit, 2oW/ Channeled Song: She Knows - Jcole)

This person feels like they saw this chaos coming. It’s as if this was a “worst case scenario/nightmare” idea that they’d always come back to in the back of their mind that’s finally came to fruition. Similar to Member A they mainly want to keep themselves level headed and let things play out whether if it’s for better or worse. He’s in a very observant energy. He may have a “deeper”understanding of the situation than the others so he might seem like he’s “ok” and “moving forward” when really he’s extremely in his head..as if he’s on the “outside looking in”, he’s detached himself almost so he won’t get stuck “like he did before” im hearing

MEMBER D:

(5oS, 8oS, 2oC Rx, The Empress Rx, QoC Rx, 10oS, The Lovers Rx, 5oP/ Channeled song: Afraid - The Neighborhood)

They feel on edge and uncomfortable right now. It’s like they’re anticipating on what’s gonna happen next and how it’s going to happen. I’m hearing the channeled song and the phrase “im so over it”. The best thing I can compare this energy to is when you have a terrible day at school/work but when you get home there’s more things to deal with, or when you’re constantly arguing or bumping heads with someone and don’t care anymore. There’s also a negative critical feminine energy that this member feels turned their back on him or this female energy keeps doing things that goes against his wants/wishes. There isn’t a romantic tie to this feminine energy tho..but the member is making it seem that’s it’s obvious who it is but I don’t really know and they won’t elaborate so I’ll just close off here.

MEMBER E:

(The Sun, The Chariot, 8oP, 10oW, The Devil, 2oP, KnoC)

This member is giving me the least info and im hearing “you already know the deal” so I guess the assumptions I have towards how he feels atm is good enough. This member feels overwhelmed and definitely is trying to manage and keep himself emotionally and mentally above water . But, it’s as though he’s bound by a responsibility..he’s being the most optimistic as he can be and just wants to move forward. It’s like he’s trying to keep himself happy and busy while also dealing with the motions of everything. He may also be putting his feelings aside for how and is more busy comforting everyone around him who’s feeling more upset and frustrated.

MEMBER F:

(The Moon, The Star Rx, 6oW Rx, 7oP, 6oP, Strength Rx, 7oC, AoP)

This member feels pretty unstable and similar to Member B they feel disillusioned. They hate how up and down everything has been. They’re very disappointed on how things are turning out because they were just so much more optimistic about everything after a long period of being unsure just to be unsure and feeling a lack of security again. They’re very aware or mostly thinking about the financial aspect of things too and are feeling a lack of security there as well. Just a very disappointed and melancholic energy..similar to when you get bad news you don’t have any say over. They’re trying not to be pessimistic but they can’t help it

MEMBER G:

( The Fool Rx, 3oS, 5oW, 3oP Rx, 3oC Rx, 9oW, Justice, 8oW, 6oC, 10oP Channeled Song: Are We Still Friends- Tyler the Creator & Sorry Not Sorry - Tyler the Creator)

Member G lowkey wants to go home or wants to go somewhere or be in a place mentally where they can feel more relaxed again. Im hearing the phrase “things were much more simpler”. They might also be in disagreement with a lot of people or people might have a lot of misconceptions about everything and he doesn’t like the fact that people are getting the wrong idea about how everything is. He might also feel a bit disconnected from everyone and that includes coworkers and people in his inner circle. For the channeled songs it’s making me feel as if this member feels almost guilty and so apologetic but not apologetic at the same time ? like he knows he doesn’t need to feel all this pressure and guilt but does

[trolagygirl2022]

Seunghan situation

Yeah I feel like Seunghan definitely asked to leave the group. I think that the company tried to get him back but the amount of backlash he got was more than they were expecting. So I think he was like "I'll leave, it'll be for the best for everyone". It really got to him. I see him being very aware of what's going on so he's seeing the posts and he's been really really hurt by it. His energy is really down and sad, it's like someone is pulling on his heart right now. I don't think it will be the end of his career entirely though, he might come back as a solo artist or maybe do a few gigs in the future. It will take a while for him to come back again. I see some female or someone with feminine energy helping him during this rough time in his life.

[outsidereveries]

newer but still old asks from curiouscat (10th september 2024—24th september 2024)

10th September 2024

why Na Haeun left SME when she was chosen to (allegedly) debut?

8 of cups, page of pentacles, ace of swords, 7 of cups

it was planned all along. with her parents being by her side, they (because haeun went along with it) offered to train under sme and leave after some time. she wants to be an idol, and i can really see it, but the plan wasn't completely hers. haeun was fully aware that sme isn't a company that she can trust but believed in them blindly for some aspects. her mentality is extremely stable for someone who is experienced in the korean industry and she feels blessed for her experience in sme. however, she realised that this (being under sme) isn't the future she wants and would really prefer to be free at least creatively. there were offers that were made with the time she was under sme and after she left, chose highup. nothing more, nothing less.

what do you see for newjeans in the next three months in terms of their contract with hybe?

2 of swords rx, 8 of wands rx, the world

until the end of this year, i can only see the hiatus newjeans will have. with the world, there'll be definitely plans, no matter from who and where, for the girls' future but up to that.

can you do a reading on Jay from enhypen and a reading on the group right now? belift is overworking them, the fate 2 era just ended and now they announce a new tour that starts next month which is crazy..

general readings:

jay | 4 of pentacles rx, the empress, the lovers

HE'S SO THINKING ABOUT OTHER THINGS  I JUST CANNOT- he's in love, this reminds me of one of the former fifty fifty members, THIS IS ALMOST THE SAME ENERGY

enhypen | wheel of fortune, 6 of pentacles, 8 of cups

they're overworked, obviously, they're really tired and want to rest (but cannot do that)☹️

can you see which zb1 members if any would be tired with idol life after their contract expires and would think about leading a more private life after

ace of pentacles, 9 of swords rx, 9 of pentacles

i don't see it. however when zb1 members continue publicly, they'll make a big wall between their public and their private life. that's the difference i'm seeing.

except ricky's spiritual awakening that might happen (from a previous reading) and make him taking hiatus in a way, i don't see anyone switching industries (to more "ordinary" ones).

will Dispatch reveal any more dating news this year?

page of cups, 7 of swords rx, 5 of pentacles rx

they watch over a potential (real) couple. if they find enough proof to reveal them until the end of the year (and both sides not paying them, because there's a chance that it won't be revealed), yes. otherwise no.

why Trainee A didn’t end up debuting?

the sun, knight of wands rx, temperance rx, strength, queen of pentacles

from what i see it's because leo left bhm (reversed knight of wands). i remember that he had a serious scandal (rapping the n-word??) for which he allegedly apologised for (allegedly because he might've not meant it at all) and because of it, his mental health was really unstable, so he left because of these circumstances. they fall apart because of bang sihyuk's visions for the group, he was certain that if someone leave trainee a, they'll disband, so he did that. he also believed that he won't find anyone who's good enough to replace leo, so that's why they didn't debut in the end, because leo departed.

i was just wondering if you could do a reading on ollie who’s apart of the cpop group loong9 as the center, but fans are confused to see that he did not participate in the debut as he is seemingly still a member of the group so i was wondering if you can see how he is doing and if this is a personal choice or yuehua’s doing as there is no statement being released

why | 4 of pentacles rx, knight of pentacles, the tower

he allegedly broke a rule that made him not debut with the rest of loong9. yuehua might investigate it as of now so that might be why there's no statement about what's going on

general reading | 7 of pentacles, the hermit, king of cups rx

mentally, he allegedly doesn't feel good. it looks like that there might've been private conversation between him and yuehua and he realised he fucked it up. there's chance of him to depart from loong9, either a decision by yuehua or his own. it's not 100%, but it's there.

how Eunchae and her co-workers for mc-ing as a music host feel about her? did her and her previous partner get along well they seem to have a sibling bond? the reason I ask is because it seems her current mc partner really wants to bond with her and she seems quiet reserve or shy I hope she can open a bit I worry for her.

eunchae, feelings | the chariot, 5 of pentacles rx, the hierophant, 3 of cups

i'd say she's feeling neutral about it. it's not negative nor positive, to me it's .. blank. at first i see that she felt excited about it but nowadays she feels pretty much neutral. she likes her mc gig but it's not because she wanted to do it since some time but rather than her co-workers there, she bonded with them really well. she accepts it like it's a job and nothing else. overall, she doesn't care. it's a job to her.

co-workers (music bank), feelings | knight of swords, justice, death

they like her vibe, personality, vibrations and whatever else but (personally) dislike how she does her job. they believe other people will do way better than her because they actually know eunchae (and the opinions are geniune, i don't sense any envy/jelaousy; they also don't say that she doesn't her job properly because they acknoweledge what she does as mc). they believe that if she does something that's similar to what they do, she'll contribute way better, at least in music bank. compared to other work enviroments, eunchae is extremely aware about it but cannot do much.

eunchae+lee changmin, dynamics | king of pentacles, 6 of wands, 5 of swords rx

might've been close before but now aren't that much, they might've been similar in context how they should work with their bond on-camera and that explains pretty much why they seem to be close before when they were hosts before.

can you do a career reading for Zhang Hao for FY2024 and 2025?

rest of 2024 | 2 of swords rx, knight of pentacles, ace of cups, 4 of cups rx

quite stagnant, will work strictly on group activities

2025 | 3 of cups, the hierophant, 5 of pentacles rx, 9 of wands, 3 of pentacles

don't see anything solo but rather events that will happen behind the scenes in zb1.

... sorry for not seeing solo gigs but it looks like he'll not be focused on them

ah interesting bcs i just getting to know them too and yeah vernon is more likely the adventurous type like he’s open to new things and get in deeper level with that. How about scoups tho? his energies like is he also reserved one bcs he claimed to not have any other friends besides svt and like to spend time with his family too

5 of wands rx, 8 of swords rx, 8 of wands

i can see s.coups choosing his environment like you said but he's not that reserved if i have to compare him with wonwoo, s.coups might be more extroverted than him, so no. his energies are way more open than wonwoo's for sure. s.coups' personality though is extremely selective to a few people with the difference that it doesn't make him introverted in a way because apparently he's used to have way more friends/close people than now.

11th September 2024

i was wondering if Billie Eilish’s peak has been reached now with her being the #1 artist on Spotify, or if she'll be even more successful in the future? also, how is the dynamic with her and her management currently? especially since her managers are hardcore zionists, and her family (not her) have spoken up against the genocide

has she reached her peak | 6♥️, queen ♠️, 10♦️, 4♦️, king ♠️

she hasn't, i see she has manifested her popularity in a way, so her manifestation about it isn't finished yet🤠

dynamics question | judgement rx, the chariot, death rx

she wants to change her management because of different visions (i see her managers collectively and not someone specific) but is very persistent to change them as peaceful as possible? she has to do it but is in sort of denial about it, it's complex situation i assume

what’s wonwoo and hoshi relationship dynamics like? they’ve been friends since school and casually seen being out often when they’re both likely not the type to go out together

6 of swords, 8 of pentacles, page of wands rx

compared to then, they have .. drifted away. honestly i am unsure if except from seventeen they have common topics to talk about, but their mindsets are different, their points of view about x and y are different, they just happen to be too different from each other and if in seventeen-related stuff they get along, then outside of the group aren't communicating at all. i'm not saying they aren't friends but are clearly not as close as before.

i remember in one of your readings I remember you were asked about the next big thing in kpop and I think you answered that it would be a girl group with familiar faces that were loved by the public, that were already in a group that had disbanded... I don't know some readings say that Newjeans are going to leave Hybe and go to another company outside of Hybe and what if they debut together later in a group with another group name? Can you do a reading on this please.

i saw fifty fifty at first but the law didn't happen, so .. i don't know about this ..

king of cups, the star rx, the sun, ace of cups, 9 of pentacles

currently i don't see it but sometimes haerin thinks of this possibility. it's not impossible but it's surely thought about at least from haerin. slim to none as of now, like 2% or similar percentage

wakeone seems to favour only Hanbin and dedicated a lot of resources to him and not give many opportunities to other zb1 members. Even a lot of screen time in mvs and line distributions are heavily skewed towards Hanbin when he is not the main vocal. Why is it so?

the world, 5 of pentacles rx, the lovers

it seems to be mutual desicion between wakeone and the members of zb1. wakeone didn't want this at first but the rest of the boys were extremely persistent about it, so they went with the flow

13th September 2024

how ENHYPEN feel about their new tour? the fans are all worried about their health because their old tour lasted 401 days and finished very recently and they are already announcing one just 1 day after. the company looks so greedy now and the members seems to have been instructed to respond they are fine and that they rest well but I don't think that's true at all

2 of cups rx, 4 of cups rx, 2 of pentacles, knight of pentacles, the chariot

they're kind of a mess but aren't feeling exactly like a shit. they're here for the money at this point, to be honest and wouldn't really complain much. they'd feel really grateful if they rested for a bit but here we are, they'll have tour that was announced A DAY AFTER THEY FINISHED THEIR PREVIOUS ONE. they just don't complain much and will overwork like how they're apparently used to do.

just like the reading you did for heeseung, is anyone in the industry interested in working with sunoo or watching him? He had quite a bit of hype in korea after iland finished but it died down with time and belift probably rejected a lot of offers for the boys too, it makes me sad because it seems it's taking a lot of effort for his team to find a brand to collaborate with him, despite him promoting the brands the group collab with very well. i just saw an incident very recently, enhypen were in a press event for a makeup/skincare brand and there was a big poster with the 7 members faces but someone placed a big box exactly on top of sunoo's face, so he was the only covered. seems like the members pointed at it and shared a laugh but I feel like it was low-key disrespectful in front of press. it’s sad because he's also the only member who’s really into skincare. i think there are more incidents like that where he was low-key disrespected too

the world, 5 of swords rx, 10 of pentacles, knight of cups, wheel of fortune

it's way better for sunoo, there are people who're interested in him. so far there can be future offer from a place that's outside of korea (in the makeup industry?) that are willing to reach out to try to make sunoo ambassador or appear in a commercial (sth like that). belift might accept if sunoo himself accepts, the chances are there (not 100% but not 0% either!).

in korea they might be interested in sunoo (according to my pendulum) but so far i don't see it here.

is it true that V was sabotaged by hybe/bsh/bighit when he worked with mhj?

8 of swords, queen of swords rx, 8 of wands

as simply as possible, yes. source music seem to be involved in this the most. bang sihyuk might be also involved too.

what do you see for BHMNBG? Do you see Jo Woochan still in HYBE?

hybe is corporation, not small company, subsidiaries included, so obviously HE'S NOT THERE?

bhmnbg update | 2 of pentacles rx, judgement, the lovers

nothing much, the energy is similar to ygnbg last year in which they're ignored. because of the recent events it's no suprise.

hints of where jo woochan is trainee | the hermit; the world, 8 of pentacles (queen of cups, king of cups); 3 of cups rx, 2 of cups rx, 8 of cups, the emperor, 9 of pentacles rx

so far his current company is pretty much nugu who has already debuted a girl group but not boy one. with the hermit the company x is relatively new and isn't much heard of from the k-pop fans. the world aims to the western and international market, therefore the girl group is surely known in nugupromoter in one way or another. 8 of pentacles indicates that the group he can debut with isn't planned for some time but rather it's planned recently. (the king and queen of cups can be other trainees he's communicating with more often these days)

the last spread which i shared fully (from the reversed 3 of cups onwards) is scary as the situation in his current company isn't satisfying at all and i can actually see there's chance to scrap the idea of the future group jo woochan can debut under. the emperor can be the current ceo/owner of jo's company he's trainee under and it really sucks: another promising trainee might've departed recently (reversed 2 of cups) and this can be the reason why his future group might fall apart before its forming pre-debut. (8 of cups, reversed 9 of pentacles)

if he trains in bigger company, there would be another pentacles card in my opinion. 9 of pentacles isn't than much money-related card but rather shows independence and individuality in a way. since it's reversed, it helps the reversed 3 of cups and the reversed 2 of cups in my point of view. i just really don't see where tf he trains under hybe. if ador, i'd expect more brutal cards behind the scenes. if any other subsidiary, i'd expect more pentacles cards where show money and good indications for wealth.

can MEOVV reach BP level of success & popularity in the future?

the magician, 3 of swords rx, knight of pentacles, 7 of cups rx, 9 of pentacles (2nd spread, the 1st was harder to decipher)

straight away, no.

in a paragraph, meovv will have harder time to be as successful as blackpink. they can reach it in korea in my honest perception. meovv seem to have stable fanbase already (knight of pentacles) that was anticipatied for quite some time (mainly because of ella from what i sense) from both korea and in foreign lands (i'm not sure for japan), but it's clearly not enough for tbl to be satisfied (enough). meovv will have to work extremely hard to be as memorable in way as blackpink. because of ella and her "strings" with the blackpink girls (the magician might be her), i sense the anticipation but it won't be enough (reversed 7 of cups). if they do the same path with the brand ambassordships (9 of pentacles) as blackpink, they'll blend with the rest of the idols who're doing the same job (reversed 7 of cups), so unless they're innovative and trendsetters (which can turn in a way for meovv to be compared with babymonster (even more??) for some reason), i don't see how they'll be as relevant as blackpink.

can u do a reading for Jisoo (BLACKPINK)’s acting career, how successful it will be? will she hit big and gain more success and popularity as an actress?

justice, queen of pentacles, knight of pentacles rx, the world, the high priestess rx

it's so jisoo's energy here!! she'll do well, she'll hit it big but she'll get bored quickier than we might expect (i mean for example she hits big as actress and boom, she releases a single) and switch fields (i.e. from acting to modelling).

do u think New Jeans members can be as rich and successful as bp members in the future?

3 of swords rx, the tower, 3 of cups

as long as they're together, they'll have the potential to do as well as blackpink (success-wise, including their salaries, bonuses and etc.). otherwise as of now no.

14th September 2024

can you please do reading on TWICE’s MISAMO? What’ll be the concept and sound they’ll have in their next comeback? how successful it will be (Japan, Worldwide)?

concept, sound | hanged man, strength, 6 of wands

i don't see much of a change, they'll solidify with what they've debuted in that matter.

success:

japan | 3 of pentacles, king of cups, knight of swords

elsewhere | 4 of pentacles, hermit, hierophant

compared to their debut, it's the same with the difference where they'll do better has switched - this time they'll do better in japan compared to worldwide.

can you reading on how Tzuyu feels about her solo debut? What’s next for her (career wise)?

feelings | death, hermit, 4 of cups rx

she .. honestly, tzuyu was feeling pressured to debut solo. it's like that to her, they prepared the album and everything else so since they were so persistent, she had no choice but to debut with what they prepared. i don't think she really likes her debut ep. it's solid, it's in her range but she is just really passive about it, she expected to debut with more experimental songs.

what's next for her | queen of swords, 6 of wands, 8 of pentacles

she might appear in a variety show, possibly in china/taiwan. it might involve sports in a way?

any idea on when the next enhypen CB is? and if they will get to promote in korea better..

when | 5♦️, 8♥️, 4♥️, 3♦️, 9♦️

this october-november, leaning towards the last days of october

will enha be promoted better in korea | ace of cups, the hermit, 3 of pentacles rx, the world, king of swords rx

.. well. no. belift think it's better for the boys to tour as that's how they earn more money.

after the glastonbury and lollapalooza for seventeen, are they still not going to tour on europe? is it the hybe policies or what? i feel like they’re missing out to expand on europe

4 of cups, 4 of pentacles rx, 10 of cups, 7 of swords rx, 5 of wands rx

yes, they're still not touring on europe. it looks like that's a compromise between all sides (hybe, pledis and 17). it's like hybe feel obligated to tour in usa but if they want to save money, they won't tour in europe. from what i see, they don't think they're missing out as the corporation believe they'll have to win the american market first and then they'll try in europe. to hybe the european market might be harder to gain relevance as of now.

can you please do a reading for Jisoo (BLACKPINK)’s upcoming drama “Newtopia”? will this drama hit big and help her gain more success and opportunities in the future?

the hierophant, 10 of cups, the sun, page of pentacles, 8 of cups

the drama will hit big in korea and around the fans who usually watch dramas (+ possibly blinks who bias jisoo). i don't sense it'll hit bigger than that as of now. jisoo will be searched to act even more, however she will either reject the offers and experiment in different genres (for future dramas/movies) or she could switch industries (i.e. to modelling).

how does aespa genuinely feels towards nwjns? | asked generally

8 of pentacles rx, king of swords, 4 of wands

i sense aespa feel really bad for their current situation and wished the corporation could've done better. they have good thoughts on newjeans: nwjns are communicative, united, and work really hard (to the extent they're workaholics).

i've seen some tarot readers say that behind the scenes the riize members are not that nice to sohee and due to his alleged poor background there was tension there so could you read to see if thats true and if its still happening now | rumor or truth?

6 of pentacles rx, 8 of cups, 9 of wands, 8 of swords rx, 8 of wands

it was true, yeah. it's hard topic for the boys (for some reason, i see that most of them did indeed   acted harshly, seunghan might've acted normal to sohee compared to the rest) possibly because of the way they're raised. currently it's not happening as often as in the past but it can occur from time to time. fortunately, it lasts minutes or even seconds.

is there any possibility of Seunghan returning by the end of the year? i miss him so bad

ace of pentacles, judgement, the moon, 4 of cups rx, king of swords, queen of wands, the hierophant rx

as of now i'd say that it's not as sure as i saw before (the anniversary happened and riize is still 6). seunghan himself is not so sure as before and he is even skeptical of himself if he'll ever want to return. the current energies show that as of now it looks like he'll stay in a hiatus. this makes him feeling secure and having a plan b. the university might be on his head, is he accepted somewhere? because i can see him studying and nothing else.

i can see some possibilities here but yet i'm not sure what will happen:

- he'll take the sunmi route and leave riize for some time but will rejoin after he graduates

- he'll stay in hiatus and if he returns, he will not study? (otherwise idk why the hierophant is reversed)

- he might rebel himself and somehow return to riize but could be kicked out afterwards no matter how far away

- will return to riize despite its odds but most likely next year

i'm not leaning towards leaving riize at 100% because seunghan would prefer to have a plan b as of now but there's chance this can happen. currently i'm leaning towards being in hiatus and studying in a university but it's not certain to me

can you read to see what ricky of zb1 actually thinks of the kpop industry and if he will stick around in it post disbandment thanks

thoughts | 4 of pentacles rx, queen of swords, 7 of swords rx, 3 of cups

he sees that the k-pop industry is just like any other with its pros and cons, there's just that neutral, indifferent vibe here, so idrk what i'm actually supposed to say

post-disbandment??? recheck | 6 of pentacles, 7 of wands, judgement, the devil rx, the emperor

if zb1 disbands, he'll go back in china and continue his journey there. if zb1 continues, he'll still be in the industry while jiggling other gigs that he wants to try (with the time i mean). so if zb1 disbands, no, he won't stick in the korean industry.

hey can you do a reading on riize to see how they are feeling with their current situation with their fancon final and if they are feeling overworked as their whole japan tour and workload was a little crazy so how are the members feeling right now | asked overall

8 of pentacles, 6 of cups rx, temperance, 6 of pentacles, queen of pentacles

the vibe is similar to enhypen's feelings about the tour that was recently announced (that they wanted to rest for a bit and then continue but are happy that they are working ... unlike other people) with the difference that i don't sense tiredness, riize are full of energy and don't mind that they work in that pace as of now (or then?). however with the time if this continues they'll become just like enhypen, riize will have to be cautious about how sme gives the group gigs and .. other work to do.

15th September 2024

nwjns made live without the company knowing could be a violation of their contract so i want to know what’s going to happen in the future

9 of swords, chariot, lovers, moon, 2 of cups, devil rx, 10 of pentacles, 9 of cups, knight of swords, fool, 5 of pentacles rx, judgement, magician, knight of wands, ace of pentacles

since they did the live willingly, newjeans felt that they had no choice but to do it. the girls are in talks with hybe and the corporation are really having hard time with what's going on currently (the new ceo i mean). with the time i actually see min heejin coming back (i know that really sounds very absurd but i actually see it happening) as ceo and whatever else she was doing in ador with possibly some help (if there, they might be the new ador ceo and the new hybe ceo).

are there any chinese idols has a negative opinion towards taiwan/taiwanese people?

king of swords, queen of pentacles, 9 of pentacles

no, they don't care about any historical of political stuff surrounding taiwan. when it comes to the taiwanese people, they aren't negative towards them. it gives me wonyoung's words "you are you, i am me" tbh

can you read about newjeans’ career in 2025?

spread 1 | 10 of swords rx, the lovers, page of cups, 2 of pentacles, 5 of cups rx, knight of swords, queen of wands

spread 2 | 4 of pentacles rx, 2 of cups, 6 of cups, judgement, 3 of swords rx, queen of swords, 7 of swords rx

i asked 2 times and shared the spreads on purpose.

in the first spread, min heejin seems to be back in ador and newjeans will be EXTREMELY HAPPY. if jungkook didn't share the posts on instagram, the energy might've been way worse. this time i'd say that he changed the future for the girls. i don't sense challenges, it seems that the vibes in ador will be like it was used to be in the past. this seems to be confirmed in the second spread with the 6 of cups too. if not for that, then the girls' next release might have similarities with their older songs at least concept-wise but with the judgement next to it, i .. doubt it. so far i really don't sense any achievements or releases but it's obvious to me that min heejin will be back in one way or another. the pluto's just in capricorn, newjeans have to survive this period :(

what concept, genre, vibes, lore will aespa’s Whiplash have ? Whiplash is the name for the next comeback song (mini album)?

concept (lore included) | judgement rx, 4 of swords, the chariot, 4 of wands, queen of pentacles rx

sme is trying to replicate the drama era in one way or another. when it comes to kwangya, they're running from it, and i'm sensing sme will make aespa try to follow what's trendy in their future releases.

possible genres and vibes | king of cups, justice rx, 2 of pentacles, temperance, the devil

it was hard to sense something but i feel that sme is trying to do something different while this metallic sound aespa is known for is staying. the song was originally planned to sound way different than it will be released. possible influenced genres: trap (i'm sensing some cringy local songs so i won't give you examples out of embaressment), rap, phonk

is whiplash tt or pre-release | 8 of wands, 7 of swords rx, ace of swords

title track for allegedly upcoming ep.

will Ningning have any solo gigs until the end of 2024? i haven’t seen her in any Chinese/Korean variety shows, Versace showcases, etc. will she participate in radio, ost, MC?

second spread, the first didn't said much

(knight of cups) 7 of swords rx, king of wands, 7 of pentacles rx

no, i don't see it. there is an offer but i really doubt sme will look throught it as of now.

who will be the most to least popular in newjeans in 2030?

minji | 10 of swords rx + 9 of swords

hanni | queen of wands

danielle | ace of pentacles

haerin | death

hyein | the hermit + 9 of cups

MOST LIKELY

1) danielle (worldwide from what i see)

2) hanni (might be in vietnam)

3) hyein (will change fields but will be popular nonetheless.. just in her next industry)

4) minji (she might be unlucky in the future, i can see she might change industries too .. with normal 9-5 job)

LEAST LIKELY

haerin might be married around 2030, so that's why she's "left out" in my mtl (i had to ask clarifications a few times: the hierophant, 2 of cups and 5 of swords).

20th September 2024

when newjeans will leave HYBE bc sooner or later they will do it. do you see them continuing as a group? will they redebut in another company or will they follow their own path?

8 of cups, 2 of pentacles rx, the empress, queen of cups, 7 of swords rx

it's complex to say what exactly will happen.

in a situation they will leave hybe (because i don't see it but will say about the girls' both options nonetheless), they won't redebut in a group together and move forward in their individual desires and wishes.

in a situation they'll stay under ador and hybe, it'll be like normal and mhj will be back .. basicaly what they want will happen.

as of now nwjns aren't sure of what they'll do mainly because it's just uncertain to them currently.

will Big4 ever receive karma for sabotaging or neglecting their artists?

sme | 8 of wands, 4 of cups rx, 7 of swords

they'll receive it with nct's future and upcoming scandals.. i'm afraid i see more scandals for the group

jype | 8 of pentacles, 6 of pentacles, 10 of swords

it's complex but i see the karma is showing way more into vcha's path as a group and .. how irrelevant are they

yge | king of wands, 9 of swords rx, 10 of pentacles, 4 of pentacles rx

the karma for them is there but will weigh more in the future, the burning sun scandal won't be the end

hybe | the hierophant, the empress, death

they're receiving it with the fiasco between ador and the corporation itself. they're receiving it this early because the higher-ups have (personal) heavier karma to receive to the extent it influences their job at hybe. i'm not sure if 🛴🟤 will receive his own when works under hybe in this case.

why people blow everything Tyla does out of proportion? especially Africans and African Americans. it seems like they’re always “discourses” being talked about her. what does Tyla think about it as well?

question 1 | the empress, knight of cups, 7 of swords, 4 of cups rx, the lovers

basically everyone is envying her .. as simple as that. tbh i don't sense anything else, they are just jelaous and expect her to be one-hit wonder or something like that

tyla's thoughts | 8 of cups, strength, 3 of swords rx

she doesn't give a shit about it.

was the scenario where hybe and ador had a fight scripted?

queen of wands rx, death rx, 5 of cups rx

not exactly. someone else (not hanni or someone from newjeans/mhj/ador's previous staff) has tried to manifest (with the law of attraction and/or another) min heejin's removal from hybe, possibly from people who dislike her. i'm unsure if it's collectively (many people) or just one has tried more strongly. this fiasco is apparently the way that this wish is impossible to happen, there's a path that newjeans and min heejin has to fulfill together in this lifetime.

will baemon have another comeback this year?

queen of cups rx, knight of pentacles rx, 3 of pentacles

they're working on it but as of now it looks like a no. the world is the bottom card of the deck, so possibly they'll aim to release something in january 25'.

can you read about Katseye? I don't use my social media much for kpop, just twitter and I've seen locals on tiktok (not kpop stans) talking about them. They talk about the members and their song Touch. Can you read what's coming up in their future career as a group? I found it interesting since they are kind of in the center of American industry × Korean industry.

the star, 10 of pentacles, 4 of pentacles rx, 8 of wands, death

career-wise their future looks bright but only if they promote more in asia. as there's only positive cards from what i see, hybe and geffen will most likely focus on places (🇵🇭 is the first country i saw tbh) that have the potential to be very popular.

overall i can see that both companies expect a lot from katseye and i can see them succeeding very well in asia. there might be an upcoming event (might happen behind the scenes though) who might change the things. from what i sense is about katseye's future trajectory but nothing else so far. overall the future is bright.

22nd September 2024

can Danielle reach BP members’ level of success and popularity?

king of cups rx, the lovers, 3 of pentacles, 7 of cups

currenty the potential is very high and (realistically) reacheable enough to be as memorable as them.. but as a newjeans member. what i mean is that she'll reach it when she's a member of the group. elsewhere it will be at its best harder to achieve.

if dani tries to be relevant individually when she isn't in the group (like she left nwjns or they disbanded for example, or she redebuted in another group), i don't see it happening.

24th September 2024

how does Hybe feel about jk speaking up against them and supporting NJ. there were comments from Hybe employees complaining and saying how’s he’s stupid for speaking out. it makes me wonder if they always had a problem with him more, compared to the other members.

8 of pentacles, the world, 6 of pentacles rx, the chariot, king of wands rx

i don't sense any feelings/thoughts but rather something else. hybe haven't talked with jungkook about it at all. sure, the employees are/were really feeling betrayed in a way but up to that. the current ceo lied for the sake of everyone's best. no wonder why i felt relieved then🤨

can you read on oscar piastri upcoming races in 2025 until 2027 with mclaren? like will he close to world champion or just doing good with podiums

judgement, the fool rx, knight of pentacles

he'll be as good as what he's shown so far this year. i don't see him getting worse or better, it's stable as in the present tbh

have the boyz already reached their peak? how 2025-2027 will look like?

have they reached their peak | the moon rx, the empress rx, 2 of swords rx

i cannot give you an exact answer. ist is controlling way more than "the b" are aware so far.

rough career check:

2025 | ace of cups rx, 2 of pentacles, 9 of swords rx

if the boyz decide that will renew their group activities but not their solo ones (i.e. the blackpink route, or what mamamoo's wheein did), they'll be simply forced to do it. if not, then there can be lawsuits or other behind the scenes battles for tbz to gain their trademarks and whatever else (and take the got7 route).

2026 | the moon, 9 of wands, knight of pentacles rx

with this spread tbz might be inactive either because of future battles or because some of them will be in military.

2027 | 4 of cups, death rx, the devil, king of pentacles rx

... way more complex than it might be seen. extremely multilayered year. (i don't sense anything else, the energy might be unstable)

sunwoo might be involved into these talks A LOT, his name popped up for some reason.

will “Newtopia” the drama have a similar impact to hit drama like “Queen of Tears” and “Lovely Runners” ?

the chariot, 7 of cups, the star

it'll be as impactful as these dramas you mentioned, yes. either as impactful as one of them or a bit more impactful than both of them.

[kalki-maya]

if a woman like min heejin jin can be given another "chance " and postion with ador due to their constant "fighting" then trust me WE CAN BRING SEUNGHAN BACK

"You are exhaustive nothing is happening". "it's waste of time to protest" "but my bias is making a comeback". Is temporary but we losing seunghan a potential talent will be permanent

So don't give up doesn't matter u love him or not I don't even k him but fight for someone else. IT MATTERS

[timetraveltodystopia]

hii! are the other riize members keeping in touch with seunghan?

Are the other RIIZE members keeping in touch with Seunghan?

Cards: the sun (rx), the eight of pentacles (rx), overall energy, knight of swords.

Okay I'm going to say it bluntly, NO. It's just because of the "controversy" put it that way, the managers are not letting speak RIIZE members to Seunghan and they are sad, they are a little bit depressed. I think SM it's playing safe and it's not letting not even his and coworkers talk to him. But there is this energy inside them, inside of the members that they want to talk so much to Seunghan, to see if he is okay.

There's a toxic environment in the air, and it lets Seunghan neglect and the members separate from him. They RIIZE members, and all seven are sad, honestly.

[divinesangel]

omg u were right in the end abt seunghan. can u tell us more about his choice. was it the threats that did it? or was he more concerned abt the group's reputation?

— seunghan's decision to leave riize

it seems that, when it came to his decision, he felt overwhelmed by it all. as I mentioned in my reading on him, he was trying to be more positive, to look forward with hope, but it seems that everything eventually took its toll on him. it felt like the situation reached a point where he saw no way to turn things around. it doesn't appear to have been a rushed decision; it feels like something he might have been contemplating for quite some time, which is also something I noted in my reading. the public's reaction was something he anticipated—he knew that, sooner or later, a moment like this might come. however, there were certain things said about him that he didn't expect. still, it seems that the core of his choice was rooted in the feeling that it was all becoming too much. i also feel like he got to a point where he put things into perspective and saw the unfairness of the situation.

[ravenbloodshot]

my assumption is riize has a good team dynamic

False

Idk if this is a manager, or the wants of SM but I'm seeing other people being heavily involved in watching over the group that may push them to keep a good figure, diet or starve themselves to look a certain way. Idky, this group has the energy of constantly competing in a beauty contest. It could just be how SM is trying to market Riize to be the ultimate heart throbs and pretty boys, but the atmosphere around them is not healthy.

Seunghan showed up in this reading, he's most definitely separated from the group (not just in the music videos etc... but behind the scenes as well , he's likely not allowed to communicate with the members). Sadly, this is a "every man for himself" vibe I'm getting from Riize, so if Seunghan never returns to the group, its just gonna be business as usual for the other members.

I'm not saying they only see each other as coworkers. That's not it. Whoever is managing them wants them to only see each other as coworkers.

P.S. Seunghan is a goner. He's not coming back

[risathefairyofshampoo]

Will Seunghan return to RIIZE?

May 26th, 2024 | Update

Disclaimer: Everything is based on tarot and my intuition. I don't know these idols personally. Take everything that I say with a grain of salt. Let's get started! :)

Queen of Pentacles R, King of Pentacles R, The Artist R, The World R, The Fountain R; under the deck - 3oSwords R

☆ The fact that the artist R came out says everything to me.

The company is pushing him away. They don't want him back again. Things happened, and everything is good now, so why make some fuzz with getting him back to the group?

Seunghan obviously witnessed the companies actions and the way they didn't communicate as much as they once did.

He seems to be moving on. It might be true that he is going to university. There is another path that he is going for, but these 10% of him are holding on to his idol life.

I feel like because of the lack of communication, he is quite unsure how to go on. He can definitely feel that SM doesn't want him to be under their company anymore, but still, he is quite unsure because something is missing. Like a paper from the company terminating his contract.

He is still waiting for a sign. Negative or positive. He just wants a clear answer.

So a no. I don't think he will return to RIIZE or to the company as an idol.

RIIZE MASTERLIST

[lasi-nariyoyoreads]

Hii can you do a reading on what the kpop idol world think of the scandals that are going on with seunghan of riize ?

Cards: 6 of cups, death, queen of swords

There isn't a negative opinion on him, rather they might feel bad for him.

6 of cups is a card that refers to childhood, friends and family, they might want him to pay more attention to the people close to him or they think he trusted too much the wrong people. It's possible they see him too tied to people that he should let go.

Death indicates a drastic change, so they might expect him to reconsider his past acquaintances and become much more careful about who he lets close to him.

Some idols, probably seniors or in general those older than him, might feel a sense of protection toward him, I feel some of them might be in a position where they want to lecture and guide him.

Think of a parent who sees their child fall and hurt their knee. The parent begins to complain on how the child should've been more careful. There might be a bit of these strong approaches in this situation, definitely everyone would've very much preferred he had paid more attention to whoever he's hanging out with.

[33446699]

Seunghan:

SM is one of the worst companies of K-pop and K-netz ,Korean K-pop fans need a reality check for real ,like this isn't normal to destroy an idol career for these things (even if he was underage at that time and it was illegal ,from what I heard it's still doesn't make sense to ruin his career )and I hope that he can recover from whatever happened to him .Also sending funeral flowers for idols who are alive is a kind of low which is so normalised over there ,it's really sad .Giving into fans demand and letting an idol go because they dont want him will only make situation worse for other idols in future too ,SM could have done better if they wanted to protect him ,fans can do nothing and it must took a toll on his mental health that he sacrificed his own career .