#seriously though fosse is all over this fuckin movie and I love it

[tweedlebean]

I didn't see it but wasn't the whole point of Joker that it was realistic? It was a grim examination of what someone would have to go through to become a real life villain, right? But now everybody's mad because he can't keep it up and dies in the sequel? I'm sorry in what realistic world does a mentally unstable man kill someone on tv and then just get to run around being The Joker for five more years. He doesn't have superpowers, he's a scrawny dude who had a manic episode. He was either gonna die in prison, get killed by the state, or get shot trying to escape. And that's just the watsonian explanation, story wise it was following the structure of A Star is Born and was heavily influenced by All That Jazz, both of which end with the male lead dying because he couldn't keep up with the persona he built his life around.