#seeing those glimpses of 70s era john winchester. insanely fascinating.
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something about john winchester mischaracterisation just needles me inexplicably. i can deal with it if a fic is good otherwise but cmon. you have to Get Him. he loves the boys and he ruins their lives like come onā¦.. if you donāt get that he loves them then how r u even getting deanās character considering that dean is The Same in this manner. love can be bad love doesnāt change abuse it just complicates it etc etc.
unrelatedly but also relatedly, i donāt think heād be actually homophobic because i donāt think he has time to care. i do however think dean would be absolutely convinced he is incredibly homophobic for unknown reasons. john probably makes like an offhanded comment about something being gay once and 15 year old dean (very attracted to men. genuinely no idea whatsoever. still feels intense rush of panic at the word) decides it must mean john desperately and intensely HATES gay people and proceeds to become worldās best baby homophobe for like a year before he starts to think Maybe Sammyās gay (sam likes to read books) and cools down on the homophobia. also his heart was never really in it. but he still thinks john is homophobic and has also decided samās probably gay (sam is more attracted to women than dean is) so he worries about this a lot.
then one day john says extremely casually about sam Sometimes I wonder if heās not a little queer, you know, and deanās heart stops and heās like What no of course not what and johnās like If it means he doesnāt get into as much trouble with girls as you seem to, I honestly donāt mind and deanās just like. What. but by this point itās far too late and all fragments of homosexuality have been far buried beneath the surface by his subconscious. Also itās important that john WOULD be kind of annoyed by dean being gay. he already thinks sam is weird and has decided to love him anyway (although iām not sure sam got the memo about being loved anyway so the effort was useless) so itās ok if sam is gay (privilege of being the family freak!) but dean is meant to be mini him. #picking up girls. see that journal entry. heād get over it though.
#Iām sorry but it is INFINITELY more compelling that john winchester is crazy protective and controlling and loves them to the point he#sacrifices his life for them#seeing those glimpses of 70s era john winchester. insanely fascinating.#Anyway this post really changed directionšsorry guys#gay dean winchester#bi dean winchester#john winchester#oliver talks#spn#spn meta#itās very important to me that both dean and john genuinely think for a bit that sam is gay. and then sam grows up and is a lesbian so#essentially they were right (im joking) (im not)
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