#scrooge doesn't get it in the comic tho lol

[ankkalinna]

My main issue with DT17 Glomgold comes back to how that show chose to handle Scrooge, which is that he was written as way too awesome and cool tbh

It also feels like such a wasted opportunity not to lean into how Scrooge needs his family through using Flinty as an example to how he could be. Flinty is always at his most interesting to me when he is used as the kind of nemesis who shows what the hero (Scrooge in this case) could have so easily been

[duckburgsgreatesttreasures]

Oh, he said a great many things, he likes to give long and detailed answers (which I/the fans love, but which con organisers hate :') ) and I wrote 4,5 pages of notes (A6 size).

It's very late rn and I'm meant to be asleep, but I'll try and summarize as best I can (I also wrote a bit more in depth about one of his answers here):

He told a bit about how he rolled into his carreer as a duck artist (most of us already know this or read it somewhere). That Son of The Son was his first story and how it got nominated for Best Story of the Year of the Harvey (Kurtzman) Awards the same year.

He sees himself more as a fanartist than a professional artist.

He also kept saying he's bad at art, but I never really understood that, I think his pages look great, they read well and are full of detail and passion! He said that people can at least see that he had fun making it and that keeps them publishing and reading, despite his "bad art".

He talked a bit about his old publishers, how they resented adult duck comic fans and one publisher even made a comment to Don Rosa calling adult fans "freaks" and he thought to himself "he's calling me a freak!" (Because he's one of us, a fellow adult duck fan)

He identifies strongest with the nephews because of the junior woodchucks, though he continued his answer by saying he gave Scrooge some of his own beliefs too, mostly in regards to the original Barks characterisation of Scrooge: some European duck artists depict him as greedy, but he's not greedy according to him & Barks, Scrooge is CHEAP! His bin is filled with essentially pocket change! His years and years of memories that he collected! In most european duck comics and some other iterations the money in the bin is colored yellow/gold (devils advocate tho, euro coins are kinda gold colored (except for the 5, 1 and 2 cents...)) and there's stuff like diamonds or other treasures in the bin, but according to Don Rosa it's supposed to be pocket change. Scrooge doesn't spend it, he saves it. He is a collector of memories.

Rosa also talked about why he stopped making duck comics. It's a variety of reasons but mainly because the system and publishers broke his passion. They used his passion against him, or rather, for themselves, for many years. He never even got any royalties for the millions of copies sold and reprinted. He got to go to Europe yes, but meanwhile his colleages were able to keep working at home and making money and he wasn't making Any money.. But the money thing wasn't the main reason, the main reason was being abused basically by his publishers in this way, he got fed up and decided to quit after what he considered his best work, the Prisoner of White Agony Creek.

He goes to every con he is invited to, so I guess I gotta try and contact Comic Con Holland to get him to go here lol :')

He talked a bit about how he doesn't really feel much for doing any original work with his own original characters. He doesn't care about that, he cares about the Barks comics and canon, That is personal to him.

One of the audience members asked a question I'd been meaning to ask him myself, concerning the many details he puts into his work and backgrounds. Don Rosa talked about how time consuming it is drawing backgrounds (*fellow artist nod of agreement*), but how readers barely ever pay attention to them, because they focus on the characters! He then started putting details and little jokes into his backgrounds to basically force his readers to pay attention to the backgrounds, haha! Smart move! He very much enjoys abusing Mickey Mouse in the background :p

The first time he put in the D.U.C.K. dedication into one of his stories, his publisher/editor made him take it out, because it looked too much like a signature and they couldn't have that (god forbid you credit the people who actually make the thing you're selling!!). Having a name connected to a story and art style means the audience has someone to connect to, which Actually makes people buy the thing more! But the editors didn't understand that, so Rosa started hiding his dedications in such a way that he knew his editors wouldn't find it, but his readers would! Because, in his words: the readers are much smarter than the editors!

As a child he read the duck comics thanks to his older sister, who collected them. As he got older and reread them he felt like he had outgrown the comics.. so at some point he got rid of all of them, except two that he just couldn't let go: The Golden Helmet and Only A Poor Old Man (both by Carl Barks, but he didn't realise it at the time). He told us how Barks was the first to put adult emotions into a duck comic, specifically into scrooge mcduck (Scrooge was his own creation after all). He wrote the stories to be interesting for both kids and adults - at some point his editors even told him to dumb downs his stories! Anyway, Rosa mentioned one of the final panels of Only A Poor Old Man, that shows Scrooge's reaction to Donalds words and has him looking kind of defeated/staring into space, those are way more adult emotions than your usual kids story.

Someone asked about the difference in his popularity here vs in the USA and if it might be a culture thing. He responded by saying in America kids tend to reject everything their parents like, whereas here, parents get their kids a subscription to the Donald Duck weekly as soon as the kid can read, so they (the parents) can also read the stories themselves, ha!

He described his own style as "needless and irritating detail". He used to make comics together with a friend, just for his own amusement that nobody would see, they were amusing themselves. The more detail he put into them, the longer it took to make, the more time he could spend on makig comics! They were in essence "detailed humor comics"

And that's the last I wrote and the last thing I remember as they were being rushed off the stage for already talking for too long haha!

I already mentioned it in my other post, but I would've loved to hear him talk for A Bunch more hours, easily! He gave very in-depth answers, thoughtful and very appreciative of his fans. He got a little emotional at the final applause he got from us, understandably so.

My biggest take away is just what a kind and thoughtful man he is, very approachable and truly just as much of a duck fan as anyone there was!

At the request of @okaystoptellingmetomakeanaccount

Here you go:

Listen to 'em braggin' down there! Braggin' because they outsmarted Scrooge McDuck!

I'm only an old man, I guess! Too old to keep up with the new tricks!

Just a poor old man that remembers the old tricks!

Yes! I remember the old tricks!-----Like the time in Bagdad—

Well, never mind! Let's go down there and congratulate our my new-rich neighbors!

I'd congratulate 'em with a box of spoiled eggs!

Unca Scrooge is up to something!

Hadn't we better go into town and file a claim on this money?

Yeah — but wait! Here comes old Scrooge! Let's see what's on his mind!

Boys, I came to offer my best regards! You outsmarted me – and did it fair!

You mean you ain't mad at us?

Certainly not! I admire brains —and you boys have got 'em!

I had brains, too — in the old days! But now I've got a head like a soft tomato

Hee! Hee!

Could you find it in your hearts to grant a poor old man one little favor?

Well — maybe!

It's just that I'd like to have one last swim in this money before you haul it away!

You swam in that stuff?

Every day for years! It's the only pleasure I ever had!

Well, if that ain't one for the book! Go right ahead!

Zoom

If I didn't see it, I wouldn't believe it!

Watch how I dive around in it like a porpoise!

And see how I burrow through it like a gopher!

And toss it up and let it hit me on the head!

Say, that looks like it'd be fun!

It is! It's your money now! Why don't you dive into it and learn how to enjoy it?

The old boy's got something there!

Last one in's an honest man!

Zoom!

C r a c k

How odd! The Beagle Boys bounced like they'd hit a solid wall!

And feel those heads — like soft tomatoes! They'll be unconscious for weeks!

Months! And to think it happened to them before they could go to court and claim my money! Tsk! Tsk!

Unca Scrooge, how come you dived all the way from the bluff, and you didn't get hurt?

Well, I'll admit — it's a trick!

Now let's get bulldozers and trucks and haul this money back onto my land! Hi-de-ho!

So uncle Scrooge gets all his money back, and things are again as they were!

If you don't mind, uncle Scrooge, the kids and I would like to get paid off now and go home!

Oh, no! Not yet!

I haven't had time to tell you what comfort you'd get out of a fortune like mine!

If you've got comfort, I'll take vanilla! Shut up and pay off!

You may not know it, uncle Scrooge, but your billions are a pain in the neck! You're only a poor old man! Good-bye!

Bah! Kid talk! No man is poor who can do what he likes to do once in a while!

And I like to dive around in my money like a porpoise!

And burrow through it like a gopher!

And toss it up and let it hit me on the head!

[paperino-protection-squad]

Okay so, this was an impulsive buy right before hopping on a plane so I didn't do much research before hand, but have some observations without a point

::readmore::

^this are the ones I got btw, it was a three magazine pack; I'm guessing the yellow one on the right is the "default" magazine, as the title is just "Donald Duck"

This is also a good moment to tell that I don't speak dutch lol, it's just me and Google translate here

Also I'm not home so I only have one old Topolino and my digital subscription as comparation

First thing first, the size: the magazines are a4, which mainly means that we have four rows instead of the Italian threes

The price is around the same, I got it as a pack but the written one for the dutch one is €3.45, the Italian one is €3.20 (I wonder if the dutch one had a price rose too some years ago? Ours used to be around €2 not so long ago)

Both magazines have a letter column, dutch at the start and Italian at the end, but I can't seem to find the index :/ The stories also don't have credits at the bottom of the page, how do you guys know who are the artists and the writers??? The only one with index and credits is the "De spannendste avonturen", which seems to be a collection of stories from previous issues

There's one "long" story (9 pages), while the other stories are all very short (two stories of 2 and 1 pages respectively, and four stories around 5/6 pages). There's no extras except for the aforementioned letter column

Topolino on the other hand, usually has 5 stories, usually between 15 and 25 pages, plus at least one 1-page comic at the end. In the past years they started adding one page in front of every comic with an introduction to the story we're going to read. We also have various columns, usually about science or travel or an interview with a famous person.

Random character things I noticed:

Gyro is closer to what I consider his "older" design, a brunette wearing yellow

Gladstone has white hair instead of being blonde

Jose Carioca is here! :D He doesn't appear in Italian comics anymore (nor we get translated stories of him) so it's nice to see him :3 (as an extra, pretty sure he's scamming a guy in this story...)

Donald's neighbor looks very different. He and Donald still hate each other tho

No idea who this two are, but I do remember that Donald had some problems with a bear in old cartoons, I'm gonna guess that's where this comes from

Why are your Junior Woodchuck green lol

Detective Donald Duck seems to be a recurring series, glad to see at least one Donald have a stable job

Mickey is still in his shorts and nothing else, someone give this mouse a t-shirt

Scrooge's secretary looks completely different, not even sure they're the same character

I've finished the space for more pictures so I guess I'll just end here, I don't have a point to make anyways, I just think it's neat how Donald and co evolved differently in different countries. I think I'll keep collecting various Disney comics from different countries, it's fascinating

Also

Italian 🤝 Dutch

Liking Donald over Mickey (but let's be honest, who doesn't)

@ dutch people why are your Donald Duck comics so tall and yet so short

[paperino-protection-squad]

Okay so, this was an impulsive buy right before hopping on a plane so I didn't do much research before hand, but have some observations without a point

::readmore::

^this are the ones I got btw, it was a three magazine pack; I'm guessing the yellow one on the right is the "default" magazine, as the title is just "Donald Duck"

This is also a good moment to tell that I don't speak dutch lol, it's just me and Google translate here

Also I'm not home so I only have one old Topolino and my digital subscription as comparation

First thing first, the size: the magazines are a4, which mainly means that we have four rows instead of the Italian threes

The price is around the same, I got it as a pack but the written one for the dutch one is €3.45, the Italian one is €3.20 (I wonder if the dutch one had a price rose too some years ago? Ours used to be around €2 not so long ago)

Both magazines have a letter column, dutch at the start and Italian at the end, but I can't seem to find the index :/ The stories also don't have credits at the bottom of the page, how do you guys know who are the artists and the writers??? The only one with index and credits is the "De spannendste avonturen", which seems to be a collection of stories from previous issues

There's one "long" story (9 pages), while the other stories are all very short (two stories of 2 and 1 pages respectively, and four stories around 5/6 pages). There's no extras except for the aforementioned letter column

Topolino on the other hand, usually has 5 stories, usually between 15 and 25 pages, plus at least one 1-page comic at the end. In the past years they started adding one page in front of every comic with an introduction to the story we're going to read. We also have various columns, usually about science or travel or an interview with a famous person.

Random character things I noticed:

Gyro is closer to what I consider his "older" design, a brunette wearing yellow

Gladstone has white hair instead of being blonde

Jose Carioca is here! :D He doesn't appear in Italian comics anymore (nor we get translated stories of him) so it's nice to see him :3 (as an extra, pretty sure he's scamming a guy in this story...)

Donald's neighbor looks very different. He and Donald still hate each other tho

No idea who this two are, but I do remember that Donald had some problems with a bear in old cartoons, I'm gonna guess that's where this comes from

Why are your Junior Woodchuck green lol

Detective Donald Duck seems to be a recurring series, glad to see at least one Donald have a stable job

Mickey is still in his shorts and nothing else, someone give this mouse a t-shirt

Scrooge's secretary looks completely different, not even sure they're the same character

I've finished the space for more pictures so I guess I'll just end here, I don't have a point to make anyways, I just think it's neat how Donald and co evolved differently in different countries. I think I'll keep collecting various Disney comics from different countries, it's fascinating

Also

Italian 🤝 Dutch

Liking Donald over Mickey (but let's be honest, who doesn't)

@ dutch people why are your Donald Duck comics so tall and yet so short