#satosugu yin and yang coded

[lxmelle]

I think it’s safe to say both Gojo and Geto had a problem opening their hearts after they separated. Like an emotional scar they never resolved.

It’s kinda Husband & Wife-coded imho. (Husband&Husband, Wife&Wife, whatever - you get my drift).

Geto at his death asked about his family. He wasn’t concerned about how they’d mourn for him or considered if they’d want him saved, etc. Like the scrolls adorning the back of the temple, he didn’t view himself to be much if he couldn’t be strong - punishment to the weak and foolish.

Gojo upon the lead up to the battle seemed to believe he would win either way (aligned with what he told Megumi) and that wasn’t bothered with his body - but he admittedly did feel annoyed that his longest living friend, Shoko, wasn’t upset on his behalf. (I HC that I think he understood that there was no other person who had love for him like with Geto.)

Spoilers for 261:

Given the circumstances, Shoko also had to do what was necessary to support him, regardless of her feelings towards the request. She has always been respectful of boundaries I think. More avoidant with her feelings (remaining stoic) rather than ambivalent. She is a medic after all... you have to put aside your personal feelings.

To some extent both Gojo and Geto it difficult to regard themselves as worthy of loving and genuine care. People may have cared like Geto’s family etc. but the problem lies in their ability to recognise and reciprocate it. He felt alone and couldn’t smile sincerely in his life. It was easier for him to give love than to receive it.

Gojo had a few students who did, but they perhaps came at a time too late (it was mere months after Geto died?) where he didn’t have the time to actually open up his heart too much in the end... before he was sealed, and then had to make the decision to enter the battle. Fortunately, by that time, he didn’t feel lonely anymore as he said in ch236 after death, but there was certainly a line where he didn’t feel he could be understood by others. He was born too different, perhaps? His pragmatic and callous facade made it difficult for others to get close enough to see the real Gojo Satoru. A part of it was about unparalleled strength. The magnitude of it. It wasn’t something Sukuna understood either, since he never knew love and lost it.

We can see that Gojo held different standards for Geto than he did himself though. In the anime many speculated that he was bringing the bouquet for Geto’s grave (or something similar). He must’ve given his body back to Mikiko and Nanako (or hidden it) because he didn’t have it processed & cremated by Shoko, (which would’ve been completely adhering to the orders of the institution). He also wanted to reclaim it for a proper burial from Kenjaku.

This feels so much like a husband & wife thing.

Widowed Husband goes: “Ah, just toss my ashes in the river.” But will get his wife flowers for her grave, ensure she has a clean gravestone, no weeds growing on her plot, leaves a plate out during anniversaries, etc.

Gojo’s love for Geto is also very Yang-coded (which is inherently more male) where he will cling on unwaveringly and there is something about reverence in how he patiently accepts Geto and tried to fulfil everything he wanted. In this sense, where he is portrayed as a loyal widower, he may surround himself with friends, activities, look after the kids, etc. but he will always honour and cherish his wife until his dying day.

Geto who is Yin-coded loves maternally, self-sacrificially. She will be willing to make sacrifices for the sake of her kin. Even if separated from her husband, she will nurture and build a family around her, uncomplaining. She may appear to cope on the surface, as she is used to her emotional needs being unmet without her partner/Husband, until her own dying day.

This is totally anecdotal of course, but to give myself some credit, I’ve talked intimately with more than my fair share of people in grief to see a pattern (and understand it in a personal level too)... we all grieve differently, love differently, value different things...

This is just my two cents. Any thoughts?

Feel free to comment or reblog with your own take.

[virgobingo]

For years I believed Yin was good and Yang was bad because my grandmother would say the rude bullies were Yang. I looked into what they mean and the associated traits because of satosugu lol

Geto is totally yin coded and Gojo is totally yang coded. Gojo has the bright, chaotic, masculine energy and Geto for sure is the passive feminine character who hides his feelings and withers away in the dark.

If you look it up even their powers are like that. Geto uses Playful cloud which was his before JJK was written, cloud is a Yin trait. Gojo's Hollow technique can be equated to a sunbeam which is Yang trait.

that's so funny but it does prove that it's hard to assign morality to yin and yang because it's kind of relative.

for satosugu it goes beyond the paths they take in life too. from their techniques to their personalities and the way they relate to one another, i think gege uses it to show how interdependent they are.

and yeah.. actually the fandom is a little weary of discussing the feminine/masculine traits because they're rather restrictive (maybe thinking of these terms as surpassing gender and people possessing both helps? it's a slippery sloap ik)— but gege does make geto more yin balanced and that includes traits commonly associated with "femininity" such as the ones you mentioned. he also goes the extra mile with other things in my opinion (x) (+literally has a curse spirit call him mother).

... and just as gege makes geto yin balanced, he makes gojo more yang balanced by going out of his way to associate him with more "masculine" traits such as power and ambition (literally described as someone with the mindset of an old military general).

anyways it's really just cool to think about. need someone more eloquent than me to write a detailed analysis about it haha

[sasukesun]

Can I ask your opinions on a few things about Gojou and Getoh?

-So, is he (Gojou) really not feel anything with Amanai and Haibara's death?

-How can Gojou not realizing Getou's depression (is it because he always sent on solo missions)?

- I read somewhere that Getou's act to that village is really because Yuki's words (as if to blame her), and I was like wtf (?)

- If Getou not become a curse user, can he become like Yuki (just do what they like and not listening to the elders)?

- Do you think adult Getou can win against Toji?

- NaruSasu is like Sun and Moon, do you think SatoSugu is also Sun and Moon?

- I also read somewhere that Gojou = Naruto and Getou = Sasuke, but I kinda disagree.. (I don't think Naruto can kill Sasuke, right). What abou you?

Sorry if my ask is too long, hope you don't mind....

1. the manga doesn’t even show gojou’s reaction to haibara’s death, especially since this part is through getou’s pov, it’s focused on showing getou’s depression, so i don’t think it’s fair to say that gojou didn’t feel anything when it’s nowhere to be seen. this writing choice could also be used to portray the distancing between getou and gojou, how gojou got so busy with his missions. in amanai’s case, gojou pretty much says he isn’t sad for her, but it doesn’t necessarily means he is cold or didn’t care about her, you have to consider the entire context. gojou had just learned reverse cursed technique and almost came back from the dead, he got severely traumatised by toji, but that’s exactly it, that’s how gojou deals with his trauma, by distancing himself, quite literally when you consider that he focuses on improving his infinity after it, and this metaphor is well portrayed in the anime too. gojou dealing with his trauma that way also adds to the idea of getou struggling with the distance between them.

2. the same way that gojou deals with trauma by creating a distance from humanity, getou deals with trauma by keeping everything to himself. gojou notices getou has lost weight, but getou himself brushes that off, maybe because he doesn’t want to worry gojou, maybe because he doesn’t want to show his vulnerability, afraid of gojou looking at him differently, who knows.

i feel like getou doesn’t like lying to gojou, so he just acts avoidant (and that also contributes to the distance between them).

3. getou’s actions weren’t solely due to what yuki said to him, he was already seeing humans as “monkeys” before their talk. of course her talk about genocide influenced his decisions, but she couldn’t possibly know how much he was affected by humans’ treatment towards sorcerers and by the cycle of exorcising/ingesting for the same humans. she didn’t know what was going on with his mind, it’s not her fault, but it is a bit insane to me how casually she mentions genocide. still, getou chose that path himself, there’s even a panel of him saying that.

4. yeah? i don’t see why not, the exorcising lifestyle was clearly unsustainable to him, there are other alternatives.

5. i think those kind of discussions are pointless tbh? i can’t give you an answer.

6. i do think satosugu is sun/moon coded, but in a different way than narusasu and, contrary to what some people think, getou is the sun while gojou is the moon, i’m linking a couple of posts to explain why i see it that way (1) (2), plus will have to mention that getou’s name contains the summer kanji (夏). narusasu are written to represent yin and yang from chinese philosophy, they are complementary opposites, in which yin means many things such as moon, dark, cold, earth, passive, while yang means sun, light, heat, heaven, active etc. those words are present in each of their characters, sasuke encompass all of yin’s characteristics, while naruto does the same with yang, they embody yin and yang perfectly.

satosugu are also written to be complementary opposites, in a lot of ways besides their names or their looks, but i don’t think gojou and getou encompass only yin or only yang characteristics each. dark goes clearly for getou, while light clearly goes for gojou, whose name literally means enlightenment, but i would say active is more matching to getou’s character in their relationship, while passive matches more with gojou’s, if you think about it, it’s always getou’s actions that change gojou, his defection, his declaration of war… i would say that gojou, who gets his enlightenment, is closer to heaven, while getou is grounded by his afflictions, closer to earth. another natural duality i read about yin and yang was contracting and expanding respectively, to which contracting matches getou’s technique, while expanding matches gojou’s. so my point is, gojou and getou are surely written to be complementary opposites, and even though those complementary opposites encompass yin and yang, i don’t think each are necessarily purely yin or yang.

7. i don’t think satosugu resemble narusasu, i don’t think either naruto or sasuke are gojou or getou. i also get what you’re saying about naruto being unable to kill sasuke, but i don’t like applying the same logic to different stories, i don’t think satosugu is less than narusasu because gojou killed getou, narusasu’s logic doesn’t apply to satosugu and vice versa. there is something about not being able to kill someone, even though that’s expected of you, because you love them, but there is also something about killing the one you love because it has to be you, and neither of those things are better or deeper than the other, the big picture matters, context matters.

[muninnhuginn]

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Sorry this took so long! (Also, am aware there's another I need to answer which is in my drafts rn)

Answering the asks from this list.

O - Choose a song at random. Which ship or character does it remind you of?

Where Our Blue Is - Tatsuya Kitani. Well. That's an easy one at least. SatoSugu from JJK. I still haven't watched anything after Hidden Inventory but between that arc and JJK 0 I got swung around so hard on this particular pairing. Before JJK 0, I'd sorta presumed shippers were mainly just mashing popular characters with a history together (and my opinion of Gojo was kinda "he's like an older Itadori in a lot of ways so I'm sure he's interesting for some people but he doesn't really capture *me* because he's mainly there to be OP and/or comic relief". Meanwhile, my opinion of Geto was "he's racist" - admittedly, I still think that about him, but he's got more layers now), but JJK 0 itself leaned in so much on the "old friends" and "love is a curse" stuff that I came out of the film like "oh, wait fr?" (Also, keeping the whole first name no honorifics deal even as enemies, but my memories of s1 are so blurry that I can't remember if that came up before then) But yeah, Hidden Inventory. The whole stuff around Geto acting as Gojo's moral compass and low-key being the social buffer to smooth things over between Gojo and everyone else is so fascinating when you know full well where they end up. And the way that Gojo's OPness *does* actually get explored in terms of how there's this whole gap between him and everyone else that Geto is heavily conscious of. The fact that they were a "them against the world" to Gojo and to Geto it was "Gojo against the world (with everyone else just along for the ride)" but when Geto snaps Gojo remains. He could have fulfilled "them against the world" but he chose not to. And Gojo ends up taking the role that Geto previously occupied, mimicking the moral compass that Geto was trying to convince himself of. Something about fake it 'til you make it, trying to act as an example to your counterpart without necessarily being fully convinced yourself. Also, the yin-yang visuals, obviously.

W - A trope which you are virtually certain to hate in any fandom.

Oof, I have a few tbh? I'll just list a few off rather than going into any depth (though I can say more if asked). (Update: Ngl, this started as specific tropes and quickly devolved into something else but go with it, thanks.) - The main tropes I dislike relate to the idea of mandatory romance ngl, so stuff like pair the spares (where you eventually end up with absolutely everyone paired off by the end of it) and that whole thing where you get two female characters who barely interact in canon together but in doing so entirely ignore their canon personalities and/or interactions. - Cinnamon rolling of characters, especially ND-coded ones who are given actual depth in canon and then the fanon flattens that all out, removing the agency they have in canon in favour of proclaiming them "innocent" but not much else. I feel like people doing this may like the versions of the characters that they see, but they're missing so many layers that they're actively making them more boring. - And finally, pregnancy stuff. I know some people really like to read that kind of stuff in fic or see bio kids as some natural "progression" of a relationship, but it just really squicks me out personally (and there's some intersection there where the main fandom I see that's weirdly into this is one where the main pair already have an adopted kid so the idea they need a bio one as well has some weird implications to me even if I can't say that every single instance of it falls into that) (Please take this list as me generically complaining rather than judging anyone that does like these things btw)

L - Say something genuinely nice about a character who isn’t one of your faves. (Characters you’re neutral about are fair game, as are characters you merely dislike. Characters that you absolutely loathe with the fire of ten thousand suns are exempt, as there is no point in giving yourself an aneurysm over a character that you hate.)

Klavier Gavin is very confident in what(?) he wants. Possibly more than any other character in Ace Attorney. Whilst every other prosecutor/defender is off creating convoluted roundabout methods of showing that they care for others, he's just straight up offering the opposition his help from the get go.