#s7 salt

[gjsxj0]

mindless rambling in tags don't mind me

[suncaptor]

Still think just having some chemical that's commonly in cleaning supplies reacting against alien eldritch beings and being corrosive towards them is a stroke of genius. sorry you're not that cool.

[aphverse-confessions]

to this i have no idea wtf was the point of making aphmau and garroth werewolves. like what kind of narrative purpose did that serve??? jesson explain.

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[the-bi-space-ace]

very much hate when people decide that Echo is not a big enough part of the batch and talk about the bad batch as if they would be better off without Echo. hate it. hate it a lot.

[fishandshesmygills]

i stopped liking cas as much when he stopped being a creature (when misha collins gave up on actually acting)

[4pondsinabox]

Also! I met Arthur Darvill dressed as Ava Sharpe and got to tell him he played a major role in both of my all time favorite shows. He looked pretty chuffed about that and said it was cool to go more obscure with cosplay choices :D

[dipperscavern]

as much as i love daenerys (a fuck ton) so many people that like her are so obsessed with hating on jon and his fans. we all knew she was the ptwp and that she had a great journey.

idk it might just be me. i’m just sick of people acting like jon snow stans hate daenerys or that we brush her aside because we do NOT! or at least i don’t. that’s queen daenerys of house targaryen and the ruler of the six kingdoms (the north answers to no one) right there.

everyone is mad about daenerys’ characterization in s7-8 but don’t extend that excuse to jon snow and for what! he was done just as dirty because bro only had like 1 one line: u r mah kween.

i love you jon snow. they could never make me hate you.

no you are SO REAL FOR THIS. SO REAL IM GOING TO SCREAM

everyone has always (realistically) known dany is azor ahai. born amidst salt and smoke, waking dragons from stone etc etc. yes there were some jon fans arguing it was jon instead of dany, but the books are very confusing in that sense so i don’t blame them. dany fills the azor ahai prophecy, but we also get “I pray for a glimpse of Azor Ahai but all He shows me is Snow.” like?????? what the fart

& fans acting like his character wasn’t ruined in season eight too 😭😭 “why don’t u like jon snow” “he killed-“ please don’t tell me u took anything from season eight as canon. i may laugh in your face

“he’s boring!!” 1. he’s not 2. is that illegal

AND LIKING BOTH IS TOP TIER. THEYRE BOTH GOING TO BRING THE DAWN. THEY CANT DEFEAT THE DARK WITHOUT EACH ORHER wait who said that

ok i have to stop talking or else i’m going to say some very naughty words and make people mad. and i am but a lowly house elf

[buddiebeginz]

So do we take the leaker saying queer eddie is the priority as a sign buddie is coming in s8? Would they really say that stuff if it was still happening, I'm kind of nervous. The leaker has also been adamant BT is not endgame which no shit it's obvious, but I can't imagine this not leading to anywhere but Buddie and I think they probably held off on Eddie because his is going to be a multi episode arc that's going to deal with lots of heavy topics, the complete opposite of Buck's but is this what we think is coming?

I think we should take anything anyone who claims or appears to be a leaker for the show says with a grain of salt. I mean this one likely has insider info because plenty of things they've talked about or alluded to before episodes have been accurate. Still since we don't know who this person is we should never assume everything they say is 100% fact. Also storylines can get moved around and changed like what I think happened in s7.

Still even without any inside info I feel pretty confident in saying that Buddie is in the works and that Eddie's coming out arc will be next season. Just based on how things went this season, based on all the talk of Buddie in interviews, based on how little Tim chose to develop B/T, and based on what Ryan has said about Eddie's future in his most recent interviews.

I think Buddie was just delayed because Tim had other stuff he wanted to focus on in season 7 and they didn't want both Buck and Eddie coming out in one season. ABC also likely wanted to see how the audience was going to respond to Buck's story and how it might affect ratings. Plus like you said Eddie's coming out is going to require more time and they just didn't have that to really devote to him with how short s7 was. But I wouldn't worry canon queer Eddie is coming we're closer now than ever.

[min-kit]

https://www.tumblr.com/min-kit/747586253787217920/lol-yeah-tommy-is-absolutely-sticking-around-by

I’m not saying he’s not staying longer than planed but with Oliver you have to also take his interviews with many grains of salt. Like love him to death but he also says things like this about every possible LI he gets. Just look at the last few interviews from season 6 where he was going on about the future of Buck and Natalia and how excited he was is to see it play out in season 7 and explore their dynamic etc. and then we all saw what happened with that lol.

to be fair, when he said those things, Fox hadn't cancelled 9-1-1 yet & ABC hadn't picked it up. for all he figured, Buck & Natalia could've been something in s7 had it been on fox and things didn't play out the way they did. & I don't blame him for saying things like this about every LI cuz I'm sure he prob hopes at least 1 will stick around for some time. Buck has certainly drawn the short end of the stick as far as LI's go, but Tommy is incredibly different than any of his past LI's and, frankly, whether you like BuckTommy or not, it'd be stupid to just brush him aside when this pairing allows for a ton of new, rich storylines that they can tell.

And isn't getting Buck off that hamster wheel Kristen put him on in seasons 5 & 6 the entire point of this?

[911bts]

Hi :) I just wanted to let you know john harlan kim liked a couple of comments saying/asking "does this mean albert will be back in s7" under his photo with oliver, so I think there's a good chance :)

He liked every comment, so grain of salt, but if people wanna have that info to clown on, him liking them all doesn't have to be mutually exclusive from it being true.

[mazzystar24]

why did i just take a flu-medicine induced fever dream that they cliffhang us w buddie at the end of season 7 like eddie rushes to buck’s loft to tell him how he feels or smth in the season finale and buck opens the door and they look at each other and buck is like “….hey?” and eddie smiles and is like “hey…” and BAM season 7 over like the end of the second season of Love, Victor

Anon I’m kissing you with tongue because we are soulmates

Funnily enough in my Benadryl induced haze (yes my cat allergies are still not retreating-those who know know) I was thinking something similar like end of the s7 finale- buck hears a knock at his door and bam it’s Eddie then dramatic kiss , pull back (camera only showing Eddie’s face) then end of season before we see bucks reaction

(all this to the tune of either salt in the wound by boygenius, all roads lead him by golden state, lover you should’ve come over by Jeff Buckley, keep me warm by Ida Marie or with or without you by U2- yes I’m a drama queen who’s brain was formed on early 2000s shows why do you ask)

Or alternative- ranty love confession (THOSE ARE SCRUMPTIOUS I LOVE THEM) from Eddie instead of the kiss but we don’t see the reaction till next season

Or angsty alternative to the alternative once the confession is confessed Eddie hears or sees someone else in the apartment aka Tommy (maybe he thought they broke up or maybe he was just laying all cards on the table either way)

[avidbeader]

So, I've been doing the Great Sheith Reblog for a while now, gradually reblogging almost everything I shared before that was tagged as Sheith. Lots of art, gifsets, fics and recs, old merch posts, and meta to go around with the occasional dash of salt because lord, dumbness about shipping brings out the salt sometimes. But most of the time it's a lovely nostalgia hit and a reminder of why I still love this ship with all my fandom heart. It's bittersweet sometimes, seeing the usernames that left with Tumblr's worst decision ever, the fellow fans who have moved on to other things, and yes, the hopes and dreams we had before Season 8.

Long blathering under the cut: musings about the persistence of anti-shippers and what queerbaiting actually means.

But occasionally what both amuses and frustrates me is how things line up because it's 2024 and we still have klantis/antis over on the former Twitter spreading the same lies about Shiro and Keith - about their ages, about how they met, about what their relationship is. Right now over there, arguing is happening again because someone put up a clout-chasing poll about which mlm ship was the most influential and included KL but not Sheith (KL beat Johnlock and then lost to Hualian, so I'm happy twice over). Side note - I think if we take "influence" as a completely neutral term, then yeah, KL has been a huge negative influence on fandoms as it was one of the places that allowed puriteen attitudes and anti behavior to grow unchecked for so long. That helped turn some ship fandoms into cults, in which you had to believe with utter certainty that your ship would be canon or you weren't a "true" fan of the ship. That put more emphasis on opposing a rival ship through wank and harassment instead of focusing on the joy and fun of creating for the ship you supposedly love.

And that poll prodded someone to create a Google Form for soliciting answers as to what the biggest examples of queerbaiting are in media. And of course people are saying KL and Adam/Shiro, among other things that are not at all queerbait. These are examples of people guessing wrong and getting mad about it. Queerbait requires that the producers/writers/etc. say outright that a ship is going to happen and then it doesn't, without any influences from the powers above them making changes. Not received fan "wisdom". Not marketing doing things without consulting the producers.

And I just reblogged someone's ask in which they said they felt queerbaited by Sheith solely because of the "brother" line in "The Black Paladins". The answer is excellent and worth a ready if you haven't seen it on my blog already.

Breaking it down:

KL is not queerbait. KL was never planned as a potential ship and LM/JDS said so multiple times. They said it never occurred to them as a possibility and by the time KL's popularity took off they were too far along in the writing to try and go back and make changes, because animators need time to draw. LM flat-out said she was surprised that it became a thing. If the producers are telling you over and over in no uncertain terms that a ship had never been on the table and couldn't be added to the table now, that's not a case of queerbait. And they spoke of Lance's love interests as female every single time. JDS/LM never said anything that would lead fans into thinking KL was a possibility without the deliberate and willful misinterpreting of their words.

Adam/Shiro is not queerbait. Adam is a minor character in a series with a large cast. He has two functions: to be evidence of Shiro's status as a queer man and to be a "face" for all the pilots that died in the first wave of Sendak's invasion. Some people try to claim that LM and JDS queerbaited with their answers at SDCC 2018, but they're wrong. The only thing LM said was that we would see more of Adam in S7. And we did. She did not promise we'd see more of him with Shiro. That was people inserting what they wanted to hear, just like them trying to elevate Adam's status to a fiancé when again, LM clearly stated that they were serious and considering getting engaged. Not engaged. Not married. Just a couple that was serious about each other but broke up.

I don't consider Sheith to be true queerbait. It might fall under the cryptoqueer situation explained at the end of the post linked above, but JDS and LM were mostly very careful to talk of Sheith in terms of deep friendship and devotion to one another, after the initial wave of support for fan content during S1, prior to the klanti movement taking off. The only thing that skirts the line for me is a quote, I think from JDS, saying that if Shiro had a new love interest it would be someone he has known a long time. Or maybe that was about the romances in general being developed over seasons and not Shiro-specific - I would need to research. (Yet more proof that the endcard "wedding" was not planned since we didn't see the unnamed groom until S7 and they never interacted.) And that was said before studio execs started meddling and caused the trainwreck of S8.

I do think we were supposed to have an open ending for Sheith. Klantis like to point out a storyboard artist claiming that "no one wins" this ship war as evidence that KL was supposed to happen and got changed, but that statement applies if Sheith is left open-ended and Allurance happens, even without the endcards.

When I have a chance, I'll try and dig up the links for the various quotes I mention above. Thank you for reading if you made it this far!

[dreamless-daydreamer]

TBB as Taylor Swift Songs Character + Song Analysis Part Seven

Part - One - Two - Three - Four - Five - Six - Eight

You guys voted, I'm here to deliver. It's everyone's favorite twins in the Bad Batch

Tech + Crosshair - Exile

I'm going the extra mile to color code the lyrics to showcase their different thoughts and mindsets

Crosshair Tech Both

Okay so obviously we're going to ignore the fact that this song is about a breakup so take several of these lyrics with a grain of salt.

(And a lot of these might not nessesarily be Crosshair and tech but are more relevent to the batch as a whole, I hope you don't mind.)

I can see you standing, honey With his arms around your body Laughin', but the joke's not funny at all

I can see you starin', honey Like he's just your understudy Like you'd get your knuckles bloody for me

I see this as how in Aftermath the entire batch has an immediate click with Omega, except for Crosshair, and it almost adds this feel that Omega is replacing Crosshair in the batch. The symbolism of Omega sleeping in the gunners mount really showcases this, although Crosshair doesn't even know about that.

That last line in orange also stands out because in Aftermath theres a very stark difference in Crosshair in that he's no longer defending his brothers from the regs. He doesn't fight in the cafeteria until theres a direct offense against him(the loss of his lunch), whereas in TCW S7 we see he'll instantly defend his brothers when they're picked on. He's no longer that person and I bet it's noticable to his brothers, especially Tech, who we know from "He's always been severe and unyielding" is very attentive to Crosshair's personality.

And it took you five whole minutes To pack us up and leave me with it Holdin' all this love out here in the hall

And when the Batch escape Kamino, leaving Crosshair behind, he's angry, and feels betrayed. I want to bring up that Crosshair rationalized his allegiance to the empire by planning to get his brothers back where they would all join the Empire together. He never stopped caring for them, even if it was in a twisted way, but he thinks that they stopped caring for him, as they left him behind, but came back for Crosshair. He feels like he's the only one carrying the love they once shared. He's standing alone with that love in the hall. He can't go back into the room of the past relationship they had, but he's been locked out of the room his brothers have now gone into.

Second, third, and hundredth chances Balancin' on breaking branches Those eyes add insult to injury

Tech, as well as the rest of the Batch, continuously give Crosshair chances to come back to them, and even when Crosshair refuses, Tech doesn't give up on him. When Tech finds out that Crosshair was imprisoned he's the first to declare Crosshair is still their brother. Offering Crosshair another chance, even if Crosshair himself doesn't actually know about it. Then Tech states that they don't leave their own behind, which, isn't exactly true because they did leave Crosshair behind. Tech is trying to hold on to the promises their entire squad has made, to balance on that branch, but the fact that they've already broken that promise twice is breaking those branches, and Tech is determined not to break that promise a third time now.

I think I've seen this film before And I didn't like the ending You're not my homeland anymore So what am I defending now?

Each time they meet again in S1, it never ends well. Crosshair and The Batch both try to reach out to each other but to no avail, and it never ends well.

Their family used to be each other, but they don't even have that now. And yet they continue to defend each other. Crosshair is ready to have the four of his brothers join him in the Empire, to defend them to Rampart and convince him to let them stay. And when all of his brothers are mad at Crosshair, Tech is the one who explains his actions.

And to that you might say "But wait, Tech wasn't defending Crosshair in that moment?"

No. He wasn't. But Crosshair thought he was.

Crosshair thought Tech was defending him, but Tech shoots him down. Tech wasn't defending him because they no longer have the relationship we saw in TCW where they defend each other no matter what. That bond between them has now been broken.

You were my town Now I'm in exile, seein' you out I think I've seen this film before So I'm leavin' out the side door

The lyrics repeat "Now I'm in exile, seein you out" implying that it's not one of them exiling the other, they're both exiling the other. They're in exile, but they're also sending the other into their own exile. Crosshair might have turned on them, but they abandoned him. They're equally to blame here.

Okay so, I'm gonna be honest I'm really proud of this part, I think this might be my best analysis, if not the one I did for Hunter. Thank you so much for reading this, if you liked it, please drop a heart or let me know in the comments! It means a lot to me. I hope you're all ready for Omega's. It's not as sad as this one, but it's a folklore song so...

[raayllum]

So prior to S5 I thought that this scene in which Soren presses the Star rune like it's a button with the Ocean rune on display, in addition to Callum's "You found it?" being overlaid with the Ocean rune back in 1x04, would mean that they'd find Aaravos' prison in S5. (I also admittedly thought Aaravos would be getting out in S5 as well, so as always - margin of error and a grain of salt.)

That said, we do know now for certain the rune placement can and has foreshadowed things (specifically Callum's dark magic use in S5 and him doing it for Rayla) which opens the door to re-examine other placements with a shred of more... certainty? Merit? Take your pick

I thought Soren turning the cube so it went consistently between Star and Moon was a potential indicator in the future for Rayla and Aaravos battling for Callum's agency (i.e. Rayla trying to break Callum out of Aaravos' possession in future seasons) and that is still my primary takeaway, we know more definitively is an event that will happen (whether she'll stick to trying to break him free, or succeed in it, is a little bit more up in the air, but she'll certainly try) in S6 or S7. Hence going between the Moon and Star

However it would also tie into potential symbolism / theories of Callum falling prey to Aaravos/possession because of what he's willing to do for Rayla, whether that means saving/sparing her or by getting in over his head releasing her family (three Moonshadow elves) from the coins.

Or both the fall and agency? Both. Both is good

[lemotmo]

The nonnie talking about ABC using or not using footage made me think about something...it's technically Bucktommy related but also just a curiosity about how the network functions.

I see an argument from some Tevans about how the marketing is favoring Tevan and thus pushing them to be a thing next season. Their evidence for this usually boils down to Lou and Oliver's interview being one of the only interviews for the end of S7, and Tevan's inclusion in the kiss cam video. And...no, that's about it. The argument is mostly built on those two things generating articles.

But let's run with that for a moment, and assume for a sec that the marketing IS pushing Tevan...would that not mean that the marketing side of the show and the writing side of the show aren't talking to each other? Because the writing of the show is clearly pushing Buddie, with their many, many choices they made in S7 to center those two, their connection, their importance to each other, etc. But I do get that the Buddie storyline is harder to show in a promo product, especially if they're trying to overtly show their queer representation with Buck. (Though idk, the bachelor party footage was pretty queer).

So i'd be curious to know how much the writing team actually shares with the marketing department in terms of future content, and how much the marketing team just runs with whatever they have on hand. The marketing department may only have as much information as we have, and they don't know that Buddie's first kiss is in S8E4 (manifesting it for Ryan's 100th episode). So of course they'll keep posting the couple they have footage of, even if that couple is breaking up within the season premiere.

So in short I'd just be really curious to find out how much "they know" compared to us. Because for all we know any and all official marketing materials could be taken with a grain of salt because they're built solely on the stuff that has happened already with no information on what's GOING to happen.

Nonny, I raise a good point here. 🤔 I have never thought of this.

I can't be sure, but I have a feeling that marketing teams from the general networks don't know as much about the ins and outs of the shows they promote. They just use the material they have on hand. Or they might even get sent some things which they will then use.

But I suppose the specific marketing teams, such as the 911onABC one, probably know a little more about what they need to promote. I mean, they would have to know a few key points in order to promote the right ship for example. Or to promote the big disaster that's happening. This season we got that bee video, so they have to know at least the bare bones of what's going on in season 8.

But this is all just conjecture here. Take this with a bag of salt. I don't work in marketing or PR, so I'm not very familiar with that world.

[flappervcmp]

KYLEE'S 𝑪𝑶𝑴𝑭𝑶𝑹𝑻 𝑳𝑰𝑺𝑻! 🦇👻🧛‍♀️🌙

comfort food(s) :   chicken nuggies, cookies (specifically triple choco chip chips ahoy), salt & vinegar chips, fruit gushers

comfort drink(s) :   tea (any kind), hot choco, ginger ale

comfort movie(s) :   avatar & avatar: way of water, twilight (all of them), pride & prejudice (2005), howls moving castle, labyrinth, crazy rich asians, lord of the rings trilogy (extended edition), beauty and the beast (cartoon)

comfort show(s) :    the vampire diaries, the walking dead, game of thrones (excluding s7-s8), gilded age, downton abbey, chilling adventures of sabrina, buffy the vampire slayer, interview with the vampire (if u havent watch it, u should bc its amazing)

comfort clothing :   a skort and a crop top for at home, or my pjs

comfort song(s) :  espresso - sabrina carpenter, better than revenge - taylor swift, endwalker (footfalls) - masayoshi soken, roses of may - nobuo uematsu, canned heat - jamiroquai, we didn't start the fire - fall out boy cover vers., phantom of the opera - ramin karimloo & sierra boggess, masquerade - phantom of the opera (25th anniversary show vers.), ain't no love in oklahoma - luke combs, 8 dates (demo version) - cast of why am i so single, long face - lestat de lioncourt (played by sam reid)

honestly my music taste is all over the place generally so its a mix of some of my fave songs, along with stuff that im listening to on repeat lately

comfort book(s) :   twilight - smeyer , the vampire diaries -lj smith, the forbidden game series - lj smith, acotar - sarah j maas, ruinous love trilogy (3rd one isnt out yet but i know ill love it) - brynne weaver , phantom of the opera - gaston leroux, vampire academy - richelle mead, lights out - navessa allen, the princess and the grilled cheese sandwich - deya muniz, ice planet barbarians series - ruby dixon

comfort game(s) :   oblivion (the superior elder scrolls), any legend of zelda game (tho OoT is my favourite overall), final fantasy x, final fantasy xiv, final fantasy ix, final fantasy x-2, final fantasy xiii-2, baldur's gate 3, stardew valley, the sims, dragon age inquisition, final fantasy 7 remake (part 1 & 2), vampire the masquerade bloodlines, animal crossing, assassins creed

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