#rredboard

[rredboard]

i know we’ve all seen the nightwing movie intro post and i want to propose an intro to a tim drake (as robin) movie. also this is long so its under the cut

first of all i think that in this movie jack should still be alive and married to dana at the town house, after he gets out of his rich person depression. so if i’m remembering correctly, that would also mean to include steph, bernard, and darla as his friends. i think that one of the best aspects of tim’s run as robin is the fact that he’s hiding being robin from his dad, and the way that forced the robin run to focus on more than just being robin. i think that of tim’s generation of heroes at the time he was the only one who had to actively hide his hero status from his parent. (actually no that’s wrong there was anita fite, but i’m going to maintain this bc her dad was already entrenched in weird shit working for the deo, so a superhero daughter was not an insane jump i would say, esp with her family situation, by which i mean the guy that killed her parents) so anyways all this to say that i want the tension btwn his civilian life and his robin life to play a large role in the story, bc i love that shit.

so in that vein, i would want the movie to start out in his civilian life, and in a similar way to the nightwing movie idea where it doesn’t show his face until the title screen. like, we’re in the theater, we know what we’re seeing, so all we have to introduce is his civie life, bc we know who batman is and how he works.

so anyways to get to the actual intro…

we start out in literally the messiest teenage boy’s room you’ve ever seen. stacks of cds, messy notebooks with papers half ripped out, a half deconstructed computer tower, a picture of steph in a purple frame on the desk. there’s a photo booth strip of photos peeking out from behind with the core four, one of them wearing large oversized sunglasses so you can’t see his face. you hear a rustling sound off screen and a hand reaches onscreen and grabs a skateboard as a female voice (dana) yells for tim vaguely from a room away/downstairs.

we see tim’s legs/board as he jogs downstairs, then scan over like, family photos? to show the circus photo, show that janets died, jacks remarried, and like maybe some school awards? that taper off over time to show the effect of robin on his grades? like he’s focusing even more on being a hero, adding to the tension btwn civilian/hero life. maybe on the fridge there’s a report card with a c or d grade circled with the words “we will talk about this” or smth on it in red pen. tim opens the fridge, grabs a snack, and continues out the building, calling out a goodbye to dana/his dad on his way out.

outside, we see tim throw down his board and start skating (this part i see being soundtracked with i wanna be sedated by the ramones. major 90s teen movie vibes is what i want from this in general). he starts skating and we see the people he skates by wave at him, maybe with birds of prey-style notes pointing to each person saying what robin saved them from? idk maybe too derivative lol. anyways he keeps skating, doing a few tricks as he goes. the board obviously has like robin, nightwing, wonder girl, superboy, and impulse symbol stickers on it. maybe there’s like a handmade purple “s” design too for spoiler. anyways he keeps skating until he gets to a skatepark, where he meets steph, who says smth like “you ready to go?” and has either roller skates or in-line skates, obviously purple bc i want to really commit to stephs love affair with purple. we hear like a yes or smth from tim, who then skates into the park and we do a freeze frame on tim in the middle of a trick mid air, where we actually see his face for the first time, and get the big robin title over it. i want this to be disgustingly nineties.

i don’t know which robin arc i would want this to follow, or like a different plot, but i would like jack to find out he’s robin and make him quit. i’d rather have steph just get closer to bruce than become robin. i lovelovelove steph as robin but i’d want the movie to start and finish with tim as robin and i 1.) don’t want steph to die and 2.) just think that war games is too much to tackle to get him back as robin. i also don’t want a war games movie bc despite the fact that tim’s part of wg at his school is my favorite part of the arc, i really don’t want thay in a movie. like i would hate that in a way i can’t describe.

but also, i do want steph to be in a lot of this movie. she’s a really important character in tim’s run as robin, and at this point in the run, a lot of the issues were like half steph stories. also, as much as i love the core four, i’d like to focus on just gotham. i’d also like to maybe do tim’s 16th birthday arc, but i’d want him to already be 16 so…🤷‍♀️

soundtrack: lots of 70s/80s/90s rock and pop. the ramones, the clash (obvi), some led zeppelin, deceptacon by le tigre, blondie or maybe some spice girls? teenage dirtbag by wheatus is kind of a must. so is the cure. also when bernard hangs out with tim i want stacys mom to play when he sees dana. i have a brand and i stick with it. also maybe some rooney. during a steph part i’d really like chick habit by april march to play. also kids in america playing during a spoiler and robin fight montage.

so anyways yeah. that’s all i have. a lot of words for a little substance. and skater boy tim. i want tim’s vibes to be like a mix of both ferris and cameron from ferris bueller’s day off

[batcassed]

@rredboard that’s a great point! Thank you for your addition! I agree. There are definitely runs of canon that are fantastic at the same time as the runs that aren’t. If the only reason you’re avoiding comics is that everyone calls canon trash, genuinely you should still give it a try! Ask your mutuals for comic recs to find the better side of dc comics! Canon is the origin point for all of the content you consume on AO3 and tumblr, and some of it is very good, I promise. Everyone just calls it as a whole trash fire bc... we’re whiny /lh. some of it is, but some of it is great! Comic recs, comic guides, and ask your mutuals! <3

okay I would just like to say that it’s perfectly valid for DC fans not to read comic books. People can consume media in the way they want how they want and when they want to, especially because comic books (pirated or bought) aren’t as easily accessible for some people. Fanfiction and fanart are easily digestible, usually, and tend to cater more to the fans than the messy timeline of books that is DC comics- it’s genuinely hard to approach DC’s comic books.

We need to stop shaming DC fans who haven’t read comics. They’re fine, it’s fine, they’re allowed to do whatever they want to- and shaming them for mischaracterizations or wrong facts in fics/art is just spreading negativity in a fandom that already exists with quite a bit of it. Honestly, I’m jealous of people who haven’t read the comics because they don’t quite exactly what a shitshow it is. Ignorance is bliss, right?

That being said, flanderizing- squishing a complex character into one of their more famous traits until they’re one dimensional- happens too often with the fandom, and these stereotypes can be based on prejudices and are harmful. I just ask that people be more aware of how this occurs. This is more for fic than art, but you can read the wikis! Have betas! Canon sucks, and writing the characters how you see them is completely valid- but try to make sure you aren’t stripping what makes these characters human. Or kryptonian. Or... ugh, you know what I mean.

And generally- if you can, search up a few comic guides of your favorite character and start there!! Comics can be bad, yeah lol, but by going through rec lists you’ll find the best ones fairly easily. You can read comics free on readcomiconline.li (shhh it’s a pirating site, please use adblock and use it on your computer) but try to support your favorite books by buying issues so that DC knows which books to continue producing! You can also follow blogs that post bite size content from comics, like @why-i-love-comics and @out-of-context-batfam . Blogs like @junkoandthediamonds and @sohotthateveryonedied also answer asks about the comics (there’s a bunch that are like these, but this is off the top of my head!)

‘People can consume and create whatever content they want and interpret characters for themselves and should NOT be shamed for it’ and ‘by not consuming canon, characters can get warped into flanderized versions of themselves that perpetuate harmful stereotypes, so people should try to read at least a couple of comics’ are thoughts that can and should coexist.

Thanks for reading, and I’m always willing to discuss more about it!