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Coolest and newest fanvenbture.........? [Preliminaries]

Read CANC2:BF here | Read CANWC Here

CANC2:BF: "canwc retelling of homestuck^2"

had nothing listed as to *why* it was liked.

CANCW: "4 kids habv play a game to make a unaverse and some other things hapen too.' and good god do some other things hapen." "things go very, very wrong"

its not just 'homestuck but shit,' its so much more the central conflict is genuinely really interesting. like, the paradox space canwc takes place in is by default shit. that is its default state. roze lallonk was 'enhanced.' rose lalonde is, from the perspective of jhon and hecka and so on, an eldritch being that they cannot properly comprehend, and she wants to make them like that too. from her perspective, this is an improvement! from the perspective of like everyone else, thats a kind of horrifying prospect! but if they were to be 'enhanced,' they would almost certainly agree that it is an improvement, and godhead aradia proves this - "it feels like ive just woken up fr0m some kind of very l0ng and absurd nightmare". its a really interesting ethical dillema! and its still running on reader commands, unlike SOME web comics of the LAME and OLD sort…

it's silly :)

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A Year of Theory

One year ago today I posted my Classpect Analysis, my first serious attempt at theorycrafting for CaNWC. Now seems like the perfect time then to look back and see what has changed. What old questions have been answered, and what cool and new questions have been raised?

Classpects

I am absolutely delighted by the progress that has been made here. My original classpect post has essentially been confirmed in full, and we’ve made plenty of new discoveries as well. Jhon is the Boss of Wheels, Hecka is the Mus of Time, and Rose is the Lord of Space. Beyond this, Lord Spanish/Lord English has also been confirmed as the Lord of Time, and Papaya/Kanaya has been confirmed to be the Sylph of Space.

Hecka has also made significant progress in inspiring people for war, even convincing Dabe to fight against his daddy. He��s also demonstrated an intuitive understanding for all matters related to time, showing an even greater understanding than a sprite. As yesterday’s update demonstrated, Hecka is able to skillfully use this in the fight itself, creating stable time loops on the fly.

Rose continues to follow down the path of the Lord of Space, giving a greater analysis of the Corruption and working tactically off of that plan. Jack Noir has also offered an analysis of Rose which is very similar to my own.

Lalonde isn’t someone you want to cross. It’s bad enough that each of the heroes has the ability to manipulate an aspect... Not to mention that she now has the horrorterrors doing her bidding, and she has an above-average intelligence, even for a woman uncorrupted. And you’re not one to give out compliments lightly.

If anyone can get this awful reality back to normal, it’s her.

New difficulties have arisen for each player though, and the bids for power will be intense from here on. Hecka Jef’s main goal of killing Jhon has already been completed, so for this moment he’s fighting for nothing. Rose has been officially recognized as a horrorterror herself, so her command over their entire forces is now more explicit, but they are also clearly preoccupied with their own fight for survival against Lord English. Jaed is also likely going to lose control of Prostit soon, facing challenges from both the Blapck Quen and Fresh Whyte Germysprite. But Jack is also pushing to gain control of Durst himself, which may gain Rose new control over the Dark Kingdom. Major changes to the balance of power are due.

Enough with the old, on with the new. Jhon has been given the title ‘Boss of Wheels.’ Since this is a fanon class and aspect, instead of using the classpect to analyze Jhon, we will use Jhon to understand the class and aspect.

The most obvious thing about the title is of course that "Boss of Wheels” is essentially a rewording of “RollerCoaster Tycoon.” When Jhon did the ‘wheely thing,’ he caused a roller coaster to rescue him from lava, seeming to simply will it into existence.  Bg’ogubmom’ibulsprite explicitly confirms that ‘control of theme park rides’ is a power of the Boss of Wheels.

The aspect ‘Wheels’ should be taken as referring to roller coasters, or possibly any kind of transportation. Taking it even more broadly, it could even be taken to mean ‘velocity,’ fitting in with time and space as a fundamental force. Or perhaps it is meant to represent technological progress and advancement, as the invention of the wheel often marks the dawn of civilization.

Wheels are a common symbol across many cultures, but the most famous is the Wheel of Fortune. The Rota Fortunae represents the ever changing and tumultuous nature of fate, spun at random by Fortuna, the goddess of luck. Dynasties are built and they collapse based on its movements.

This concept was adopted into the tarot deck as the tenth card of the Major Arcana, representing destiny, fortune, and success, and reversed represents troubles and negative forces outside of your control. Incidentally, the Homestuck tarot deck shows a god-tier John looking up from his planet as Skaia.

And, of course, the Wheel of Fortune was also adopted as a popular game show where people solve hangman-style word puzzles to win money. A little less mystical, that one, but it strengthens the “money” theme.

Jhon’s own destiny in saving the economy of the Land of Dollers and Danger from President Obana. The LODAD economy is centered around the millions of small businesses that populate it, which are now facing a depression under Obana’s rule. Jhon’s quest will be to become an extremely powerful business owner and build a theme park so awesome it will save the economy before facing Obana in the Oval Offace. So obviously fortune and wealth play a big part of Jhon’s life already.

Jhon’s class as Boss also takes a distinctly economic focus. A boss of course refers to a supervisor, someone in charge who manages a business, directing their employees. The word boss was taken from the Dutch word baas, meaning ‘master.’  Looking at the synonym of tycoon a bit more, while the English definition simply means a powerful person in an industry, the word itself is a corruption of the Japanese word ‘taikun’ or ‘great lord,’ referring to a shogun.

An important question here is whether a Boss would be a standard class or a master class. The word itself certainly wouldn’t be out of place as a master class, except perhaps for breaking with the Medieval theme, but it’s unclear if master classes could work like that. Calliope certainly seems to indicate that there are only two master classes, and marks them as distinct for being the furthers on the passive/active scale. If a Boss is a master class, what is it’s pair, if it has one, and what relation does it have to other classes? It could also be a standard class of course, the existence of which  beyond the twelve we know having always been a solid maybe.

Looking at Jhon’s behavior, this class is also likely connected to Jhon’s role as a ‘daddy’ in CaNWC. Jhon is considered the daddy of Dabe Stidrer, Momi, Dadd before he met Dacronian Dignity, and made two independent offers to be a daddy to two different crocodiles mere moments after meeting them. LODAD might also be a reference to this, being the Land of DAD.

I would argue that Boss is an active class, assuming that scale applies, possibly with an interpretation of ‘manager of their aspect’ or ‘one who manages via their aspect.’

Interestingly, a video game boss is typically the main antagonist of a series. o has explicitly stated that he’s already building up Rose’s side as being the villains of the series.

Rose’s Time Powers

In addition to her space powers, Rose has been shown to have some degree of control over time. At the moment there is little explanation for this, although we do know that it is not part of her power as Lord of Space. AR and Bg’ogubmom’ibulsprite both seem to be aware of the source of these powers and imply that Rose will discover this source during her quest. As of yet we do not even know what her quest is though, which makes theorizing about it rather difficult.

It is worth noting that Rose’s time power is marked by her signature color, while her space powers uses the traditional green sun shade of green. The fact that it’s her color does seem to indicate that it is some kind of innate ability, or at least one tailored to Rose specifically.

Contrast this to Hecka Jef’s own symbol, which is marked with the Time red, rather than his more pinkish red.

Any answer to this question will likely be of o’s own invention, and certainly doesn’t seem to match any existing Sburb mechanics. The closest incident that comes to mind would be items related to an aspect, such as Caliborn using the Ring of Void, or John using the Fear No Anvil, but those aren’t exactly innate. For the moment I will simply concur with Jack’s own conclusion that this has to be cheating.

For the sake of sheer speculation, I’m going to guess that Rose got the time powers from Lord English in some kind of exchange, or perhaps as a reward, for freeing him and the rest of the Felt from the corruption. Rose has been confirmed as a Lord of Space, so I’m standing by my own classpect analysis to say that she will be the explicit cause of why some characters have been enhanced. As a Lord of Time, it could make sense that Lord English would grant her time powers even before she makes the exchange.

Troll Players

The next bit of news is that we have learned that Nepeta is indeed trolling the humans, and we can see her corrupted handle. This leaves Eridan and Feferi as the odds one out as the only two characters that haven’t had their handles revealed.

Of course this isn’t definitive proof that they are the two non-player trolls. In fact, it’s basically nothing. If Dabe can be in the human session without being a player, the trolls might have brought the two odd ones out with them as well. Still, it’s best to keep track of these things. Plus we already know that Eridan is, ahem, tied up at the moment anyways, which is a much better reason to think he’s out.

Considering that the background for Act 5 contains all twelve astrological symbols, we should expect to see the full cast of trolls.

Coulor and Darknes

We finally have some indication as to why the trolls are harassing the humans. According to Kraket, the reason they are looking for vengeance is because their “winners door” has been stolen, which I am happy to say I predicted.

Unlike what I predicted however, Kraket claims they are still being killed by a pair of demons from Earth, one of color and the other of darkness. In addition, Kraket extends this blame to Dabe, even though he’s not a player, claiming that he has known both demons for years, and emphasizes Hecka Jef’s blame over others.

In canon, Karkat never had a good grasp on how long a year was meant to be, so who knows how long he’s really talking about, but it’s fair to say that this is significant.

Lord English makes the most sense for being the Demon of Color, especially considering we already know he has the door, but that leaves an obvious problem with the rest of Kraket’s description. Dabe doesn’t know Lord English. He likely knows Lil Cal, but that’s a fairly weak connection. Caliborn is technically from Earth, but not from the session that the trolls are viewing.

The evidence so far also heavily indicates that Caliborn is indeed still Lord English. We know that Lord English is the Lord of Time from another session, that he leads the Felt, that Lil Cal exists, that the Cairo Overcoat exists, and that it travels through time via sarcophagus.

The Demon of Color might still be some other minion or version of Lord English, like Union Jack in Homestuck. This makes both Dabe’s Bro and the Big Man likely candidates.

The Demon of Darkness on the other hand could work for Rose, further contrasting her to the Lord of Time. Her connection to the Horrorterrors is already well established. Assuming it’s not her personally though, a few more options open up for who this could be since the Queen’s Ring turns people into creatures with the powers of the head of the noble circle.

The fact that Hecka Jef prototyped Rose’s grimoire also makes Kraket’s blame all the more appropriate. That’s an action that very explicitly puts the blame on him.

The bigger difficulty with this theory is that the Queen’s Rings do not work on humans, which makes it difficult to see who Dabe could have known all his life, yet still use its power. One possible answer to this is that since each ring is also prototyped with Dabe’s life-long friend Germy, Kraket may be placing the blame on him. So while a carapacian will still be wearing the ring, Kraket will blame Germy.

Final Thoughts

And there you have it. One year later and CaNWC is still going strong, with plenty new and cool content, art, and music. I’m looking forward to another year of content in the future and all the new facts and theories to come.

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CANWC Update

http://mspfanventures.com/?s=14113&p=790

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GameFaxs

The coolest and newest webcomic has updated once again, and this time with Rose producing her own walkthrough on events.

This update mostly serves as a recap, which o indicates above. Rose recounts the details of her adventure so far and we get to see a bit more of her perspective on the situation.

This mostly gives us some of the smaller details, quite a few of which I am happy to have predicted.

Firstly, the Corruption is now officially called... the Corruption. So that’s nice.

Secondly, two hours have apparently passed since the comic began.

Thirdly, the “slow transition” idea I argued is correct. Enhanced characters only slowly come to realize the state of the world around them.

Finally, Rose has realize that there is a timeline problem, but has not yet considered that she is the one that changed. She’s still trying to puzzle out when Hecka Jef came into existence, where Dave/Dabe was the past month, etc.

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We have our first official CaNWC retcon! The somewhat infamous page 62 “clipart Rose” is no more, and has been replaced by this image. It will be missed.

Or not, I don’t know. Because I still have it.

There was also an update, and damn we got plot again folks!

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Sonething VERY IMPORMANT you mised from coalle[s]ce: Baby Rose was corrupted. That means Rose must have taken the place of shitty Rose when the comic began. There's also a candidate for 4th player I haven't seen anyone discuss: Dirk. Bro has been conspicuously missing from the comic thus far, and since baby Dave went through a different portal it's possible baby Dirk went through one that led to a different time than in canon and is the same age as the rest of the cast.

Huh, I guess I didn’t make an explicit post about that before. I have talked about if offhandedly, like at the end of my Timeline post, and I’ve talked about it on reddit and the omegaforum thread, but never really brought explicit attention to it here.

Well, anyway, Baby Roze status was actually confirmed even earlier, slightly before [S) bunnie time, so we’ve known this for a little bit now. I’ve taken this as pretty solid evidence confirming my enhancement theory since then. Like you say, Rose at some point replaces Roze, and given that Rose has memories from CaNWC and Kanaya’s timeline shows a continuity between the two, we can only conclude that Roze actually evolved into Rose.

Also, as you can probably realize, I always refer to the pre-shift Rose as Roze Lallonk to help distinguish the two, although in tags I just always use the corrupted name.

I’ve heard a few people theorize about Dirk, although that’s usually for him being the “uncorrupt one” in the post-scratch session, not pre-scratch. Usually this argument depends on two things: (1) how little we see of Bro/Dirk, or (2) claim that the corruption won’t affect Dirk, just like he was unaffected by Trickster Mode.

Since then, we’ve seen Dirk a few times, so we know he is corrupt just like the rest. Additionally, we DO actually see Bro at one point in Cool and New Web Comic. When Dadd is making ectobiology clones, you can see him on the monitors, specifically on page 560. This confirms that he exists, is corrupt, and is an adult ancestor. Dirk also went through the same portal as Swet Bro’s Momi, so that should place them as the same age anyway.

Personally, I think Dirk has been absent simply because it hasn’t made sense to include him. On Earth, Dabe was staying at Jhon’s house, and Dabe only followed Jhon into the Medium since he’s not a player himself. It’s possible that Bro might have sneaked into the Medium if he was at Hecka Jef’s house, but we have had no indication of this so far. Otherwise, I can only assume he’s doing some awesome stuff back on Earth.

Maybe we’ll see more of him when we start exploring the Big Man’s story a bit more.

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Cool and New Homestuck 3 was great, but the track arts by Nights really stand out. I am in awe.

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Source.

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Rose: Perhaps True Love's First Kiss can break the spell of stupidity John's fallen under? A trite trope, true, but desperate times call for desperate measures.

Source. Redraw of this panel.

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[S) bunnie time?

Today, 10/25/2016 we got the long awaited update, one that finally brought some much needed closure. That’s right, Dadd from cool and new web comic had his ending to his five part update.

My format for recaps from here on will just be a summary overview like I gave in my timeline, followed by analysis. Since this was a video update, I’ll also point out some of the smaller details.

Summary: Kanaya looks on at the earliest point in testacleTheorist’s history and finally notices the corruption, looking around her hive in horror. DD (Dacronian Dignity) arrives to take Dadd to a better place, crashing on one of the Dadd baby clones and knocking off Momi’s eyes and Dabe’s Bro’s mouth. Dadd leaves with the clones and Obana hanging on the outside of the ship. Dadd decides he’s tired of Jhon’s bullying and chooses to not rejoin him, instead deciding to make cakes. He begins a romance with DD.

Video Details

[S) bunnie time? - Parody of [S] John: Reunite with your loving wife and daughter.

0:00 - The video jumps from 41.3% ==> 61.2% ==> 100%

0:42 - Kanaya’s window is placed to block out player 4′s timeline.

0:52 - “obliveous” is written in Hecka Jef’s color.

1:10 - The plane is the one Femorafreack rode on in  {s]every one; enter. It crashes into Hecka Jef’s guitar.

1:27 - Fresh Jimmy has teamed up with the Bug Stand Man. He still has all those wallets.

1:34 - Few things here.

Jaed is using the bunny ears to be a furry.

Jaed’s bunny has all the weapons and will presumably be sent back with them, making them part of a stable time loop.

Momi and Jhon are making out. Roze blushes as she looks on. Perhaps even jealous?

Jhon has taken away Dabe’s diaper.

1:44 - Kanaya’s keyboard has the space bar specifically marked. Rose’s was the same way. A reference to their aspects?

2:02 - The uber bunny ran off with Hecka Jef, presumably to finish sending the babies back in time.

2:07 - DD’s ship crushes one of the Dadd clones.

Analysis

The biggest implications of this are for Kanaya of course, who seems to have finally become able to notice the corruption around her. This fits in with the “slow reveal” part of the Enhancement Theory. Kanaya looking at Roze’s timeline further supports this be establishing continuity between Roze and Rose.

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