#rough out here for queer gerudo fans....

[inspiteofganon]

@aspen-of-the-gentry replied to your post “Another reason, that I prefer "gerudo kick every...”:

i do like to think theyre trans inclusive, but i also have an au where a transfem link joins the gerudo army post botw so. i am biased im not actually sure what their stance would be on non-binary people. i think it depends how much you lean masc. i think they only let gorons in because they dont really... have gender. and are a grey area to them. but yeah it does kinda give "women and non men" which. kinda really gross yeah. and i dont know how to fix that I think for genderfluidity it would be the same of how much they lean masc on any given day. I hc that they lock up their gates to all outsiders when they have a king present though, At Least until he's of age, then he chooses whether or not to reopen them

​Yeah....... one has to admit that pretty much any time they're going to play with the gerudo and gender-- and how transphobic they are or are not-- you're sidestepping WIDE into headcanon and other such biased theorycraft territory to get around and attempt to work with/without the transphobia and orientalism inherent to canon. They're really truly a Fandom Fixer Upper... for better and worse. Groan.

Even "masc lean" is iffy because again!! you could just stay dressed feminine and like... not tell anyone. What about feminine men and pre-physical/social-transition girls? What if you're mixed-presentation or fluctuate ID several times over the course of a day? It's giving "masculine cis girl gets chucked out of womens' bathroom"!! And What About Butches?! (besides the fact that I'd love to see some gerudo ones...)

[this kind of thing is why practically all gender role shit and presentation no matter how commonplace is inherently fetishistic malarkey, but I digress]

More inconsistent nasty-implications stuff that's all the more reason I ignore BotW/TotK's "no men allowed among gerudo" for "they just don't trust much anyone really"-- even if that's really just trading transphobia for xenophobia. There's really no clean way to keep it without somehow making them able to perfectly flawlessly know the gender IDs of everyone they meet very quickly, or making them at least somewhat transphobic. Which you certainly can... But I know that's not something a lot of people would want to try and intentionally approach, even to deconstruct and portray as wrong. You can't "fix it" is the exact thing because Nintendo made an inherently discriminatory design choice, so one either must work with it or resign to deliberately rebuilding and ignoring canon elements. Maybe a bit of both.

"Locking the gate to outsiders when a king is present" is a fair idea. Also there's room for the joke "Why won't you let men in when you let Ganondorf inside?" / "The sign says no MEN, we're allowed to have ONE" there, which is good enough reason for me.