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No Pain, No Gain
Johnny, shrugging: You know what they say: no pain, no gain.
Rosita, panicking, trying to find the first aid kit: HIJO, THAT DOESN'T EXPLAIN WHY YOU'RE BLEEDING OUT.
#sing#sing 2#sing johnny#sing rosita#rosita is johnny's foster mum#and is extremely stressed out and worried about this kid constantly#he just got hurt skateboarding for like the fifth time this week and is ignoring the injury#rosita very much is not and is panicking#bilingual rosita has my whole heart#hijo means son in spanish btw
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Slightly Overprotective, But Clearly Justified
***Johnny visiting his dad in jail during the school year, looking absolutely horrible.***
Marcus, worried: How have you been Johns? Are you eating? Sleeping? What about water?Are you drinking enough water?
Johnny, shrugging: I mean, sometimes my tears get in my mouth? I don’t know, I’ve been busy.
Marcus, horrified: ... I’m calling Rosita. And no theatre for a week.
Johnny, exhausted and annoyed: One, please don’t call her, you’ll just stress her out. And two, you can’t ban me from my job!
Marcus, rolling his eyes: One, should have though about that before stressing me out. And two, just watch me.
#sing#sing johnny#sing marcus#sing rosita (only mentioned)#johnny is a walking disaster with an extra dash of anxiety#marcus is a slightly overprotective dad but can you really blame him at this point?#he's gone for a week and johnny nearly drowns then nearly gets arrested for trespassing#and now he's overworking himself again#johnny is the cause of 90% of his dad's grey hairs#and rosita's at this point#rosita is johnny's foster mum
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Sing Mother’s Day Headcanons
Ash gets Rosita a Mother’s day gift, as does Johnny. Rosita cried the first time they did this.
Meena spends all day baking with her grandfather to surprise her mom and grandmother with their favourite desserts.
Buster views Mrs. Crawly as a surrogate mom and will spend the day with her to celebrate, typically gardening and talking.
Ryan and his sisters make giant cards for his moms and he will also spend one on one time with each of his moms doing their favourite activities.
Eddie celebrates Mother’s day with his grandmother instead of his bio mom. They have tea together and Nana will tell him stories from when she was younger.
Johnny and Marcus always make Johnny’s mum’s favourite meal for dinner and watch old home videos as a way to honor her memory.
Rosita and her family typically go to a museum or build something to celebrate Mother’s day together.
There is a special mother’s day performance during the Majestic run with additional performances by each teen cast member in honor of their moms (yes it is in the fic).
#sing#sing 2#sing 2016#sing 2022#sing buster#sing eddie#sing johnny#sing ash#sing rosita#sing marcus#sing ryan#sing ocs#sing mrs crawly#sing nana noodleman#mrs crawly is busters mom at this point#as rosita is ash's#and johnny's foster mum too#johnny's bio mum is dead#and eddie isn't on speaking terms with his#nana rarely talks about her past so it's really special when she does#fic spoilers#as in i will be making y'all cry :)#sing meena#meena's family is really tight-knit#they celebrate everything together essentially#happy mother's day
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Assorted Johnny Headcanons
Johnny wears a ring with a rabbit mask on it as a symbol of his dad’s gang. While they aren’t really a gang anymore (and arguably were never one in the first place), Marcus still insists he wears it just in case.
He was absolutely the quiet kid in school and kept to himself.
His jacket was originally his dad’s and a lot of his childhood photos have his mother wearing it as well. He got the jacket when he was 13, after numerous school calls telling Marcus that the staff was worried about Johnny’s lack of social life, in an attempt to make his son more confident.
His mother died when he was only six years old. Johnny never fully recovered.
Johnny is extremely overprotective of his jacket and won’t allow anyone to wear it. The first person he did let wear it was Ryan, his boyfriend.
Johnny was raised bilingually and can fluently speak, read, and write both Hindi and English. He also learned ASL when he was in junior high and he practices it a lot.
His favorite color is teal, preferably dark teal.
He pierced his own ears at 14 years old. Marcus nearly had a heart attack (despite the fact he did it himself at 12).
While Marcus was in jail, Johnny proceeded to get three tattoos, a lip piercing, and an eyebrow piercing. He was grounded for a week for not double checking the safety protocol of the shop that did it.
He came out to his family after Sing 1. Turns out, they’d known for years longer than Johnny had.
(Human AU) Johnny found a pitbull mix puppy when he was 15 which he brought home. While Marcus had insisted that they had to take the dog to a shelter in the morning, he gave in after realizing Johnny slept on the floor of the garage to stay with the puppy. Johnny names her Olive.
He lived with Rosita and her family as a foster kid while his dad was in jail.
Johnny has always been small for his age, and a lot of times when he was little, he was assumed to be a lot younger than his actual age.
He doesn’t actually have any real friends before the talent show. Besides the fact he was never the most sociable kid, he was worried that any of his friends would be pulled into his family’s dangerous lifestyle so he kinda kept himself socially distant from his peers.
Johnny is actually the second music prodigy in his family, as while he is a singing prodigy, his mother was a piano prodigy.
His mother taught him to play the piano before he could even walk and Johnny’s happiest childhood memories were playing with her.
His dad met Stan and Barry when he was just six years old so he honestly does not really remember a time when his uncles weren’t involved in his life.
Johnny looks just like his mother. Like is practically her splitting image. The only thing he shares with his dad is his nose and stubborn streak.
Johnny has been diagnosed with a panic disorder, depression, and PTSD. However, those all sprung from his mother’s death instead of the gang, despite what people think. He’s also autistic.
Whenever he is tired or upset, his accent comes across a lot stronger, same as his use of slang.
Johnny considers both Ash and Nooshy to be older siblings of his, and Meena as his younger sister. He also treats them accordingly and will address them as such. It isn’t strange to him mainly due to his dad basically doing the same thing with Stan and Barry when he was little.
He has a fear of hospitals and pretty much everything medical related as it reminds him of his mum and the fact she died in a hospital.
#sing#sing 2#sing johnny#johnny sing#rynny if you squint and turn your screen upside down#Johnny's mum was a pianist because I said so#sing stan (only mentioned)#sing barry (only mentioned)#sing marcus (only mentioned)#johnny is absolutely forever a mama's boy#he's just like her#me projecting? never#also#johnny was rositas foster kid#because i said so#johnny is collecting siblings like theyre pokemon cards#tiny johnny reminder: johnny is canonically short in his family#johnny's favourite colour is teal#my favourite boy and his chaotic family#i love him so much#<3
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Marcus and Rosita are Friends now.
***I headcannon that Rosita was Johnny’s foster mom while his dad was in jail so the two are actually quite good friends now (they both worry about Johnny’s antics constantly).
#sing#sing 2#sing marcus#sing big daddy#sing johnny (he only says one line tho)#sing rosita#Marcus and Rosita are the tired parents of the adult's groupchat#she reminds marcus of his little sister so he treats her as one#johnny is his dad's worst nightmare#and his foster mums#marcus and rosita are fiends now#because i said so#bite me
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The Gang In My Continuation Fic Explained
Most of these are based on how I read into the characters in both movies so clearly they are personal interpretation, you don’t have to agree with them. I hope you enjoy tho!
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Marcus:
- Comes across as intimidating a lot mainly due to his appearance.
- Is actually a really nice guy, just typically really stressed out worrying about his kid (now kids), brothers, and their finances. He’s a bit silly in nature and protective, he loves taking care of others in any way he can.
- Has relaxed a lot after Sing 1 due to their debt being paid off (thanks Nana) and is mainly just focused on making sure his kids are happy and safe.
- Very much family oriented and spends pretty much every single moment of his day with his family. He doesn’t really feel the need to expand his social circle past this radius either, he just wants to be with his family.
- Decently overprotective of Johnny due to his mum dying when he was young (and him being his last piece of her) as well as Johnny’s struggles with both his health and social life as a child. He constantly is worried about his son and if he’s ok and happy, sometimes being overbearing without meaning to. He just wants his son to have a good life.
- He will primarily show affection in form of Acts of Service and Quality Time, but uses a lot of Words of Affirmation and Physical Touch (hugs, hair ruffling, forehead kisses) with his kids.
- Was disowned formally when he was 24 but had always had a horrible relationship with his birth family. He changed his name to Marcus when that happened.
- Out of the gang, he’s the mediator. He’s the bridge between Stan’s chaos and impulsivity and Barry’s bluntness and cool nature. He typically ends up settling their arguments and only propsed the idea of the gang out of necessity.
- Came out as Demisexual after doing research to support Johnny (who identifies as a Demiboy).
- Had a punk phase growing up which is wear his jacket (that’s now Johnny’s) originates.
- ADHD and struggles a lot with abandonment issues as well as rejection sensitive dysphoria. He is now in therapy though.
- Within the troupe, he’s closet to Rosita and Norman, mainly due to them taking care of Johnny while he was in jail as his son’s foster parents but also because of their more calm nature.
- The best way to describe him is: stressed, worried, and slightly overprotective dad.
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Stan:
- Basically looks like a (very slightly) chiller version of a party loving college student.
- He’s always full of energy and down for whatever, even if it’s a bad idea. Very much a daredevil and adrenaline junkie, he’s never really been one for rules and is a trailblazer of his own path in life.
- A bit more obviously fun-loving compared to how he was in Sing 1 now, due to his debts being paid off (thanks again Nana) and his family’s relationships being on the mend.
- Spends a lot of times with his brothers and family, as well as being the social butterfly of the group and actually having a fair number of friends outside of it he hangs out with.
- Like Marcus, he is also a bit overprotective of Johnny (though definitely less than his older brother). However, he does also enjoy teasing Johnny constantly.
- Primarily shows affection to everyone through Quality Time and Gift Giving, even though the gifts are typically junk food that Marcus has banned from the garage for Johnny’s health apparently (Johnny and Barry appreciate these gifts).
- Was never close with his birth family and cut off contact when he was 20 to go to college with Barry, who had been his neighbor growing up and who he had considered his baby brother.
- Out of the gang, he’s the energy. He always wants to do something and is pretty impulsive. He was onboard with the robberies from the start and did bicker with Barry about wether or not they were nessicary for a while.
- Deliberately unlabeled about his sexuality and a huge supporter to his family when they came out.
- Still dresses like a university student with a lot of jerseys and a thrifted letterman as his style hasn’t changed since uni.
- ADHD and struggles with sudden changes in routine and rejection sensitive dysphoria. He is also in therapy now.
- When he met the theatre adults for the first time, he became fast friends with Gunter due to their similar personalities, but he is also decently friendly with Buster as well.
- The best way to describe him is: fun-loving, teasing, and energetic uncle.
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Barry:
- Comes off as rude a lot due to how quiet he is and very few facial expressions in public.
- While he is very blunt in both nature and speech, Barry is very passionate about things, just isn’t one to use a lot of things to express that. He is also highly intelligent and is on track to get his doctorate degree.
- He has started to focus more on getting his degree compared to Sing 1, now that he has time since he isn’t constantly working due to debt (Nana is a godssend).
- Prefers to spend any time he’s not with his family alone, is the exact opposite of Stan in this case. However, this rule is a way to see if Barry considers a person family as he does not really see people as friends. They’re either family or strangers.
- He is somewhere in-between Marcus and Stan’s levels of overprotectiveness of Johnny. He is the closest to Johnny out of him and Stan and has been the boy’s confidant since he was little, so he typically knows more about the situations that the other two. He does also join Stan in teasing Johnny though.
- Primarily shows affection through Quality time, particulary in the form of body doubling. The only exception to this rule is Johnny (who he does have a soft spot for) and will occasionally use Words of Affirmation or Physical Touch (mainly short hugs).
- Was raised in a group house in foster care and never really connected with anyone there. Has no contact with anyone from his birth family either.
- Out of the gang, he’s the voice of reason. he protested the robberies in the first place and was the one to insist on them learning medical training first. He’s the direct contrast to Stan.
- Has been out as bisexual since grade school and was bullied for it for awhile before Stan stepped in. Was the first to put together that Johnny was gay and supported him.
- Was the quiet kid throughout school and still dresses in a lot of his old hoodies (the others now belong to Johnny as they are the closest in size).
- Autism and can go mute at times. He struggles a lot with social cues and social norms, typically needing Stan to interpret, and overstimulation as well. He is also in therapy.
- Unsuprisingly to his family, he isn’t really close to any adult member of the troupe. He’s always struggled with connecting with people. However, he is fond of Rosita due to how much she helped Johnny while they were in jail and will occasionally play games online with Eddie.
- The best way to describe him is: blunt, straight-forward, and protective uncle.
#sing#sing 2#sing the gang#sing marcus#sing big daddy#sing stan#sing barry#my favourite dad and uncles <3#they all are extremely protective over johnny#stan is the fun uncle#barry is the favourite uncle#they argue over which is better#Marcus is a good dad y'all#i will die on that hill#actually i should do an analysis of his actions in sing 1 and 2#ok i'll start planning for that#stan is most like marcus while barry is most like johnny#they're lovely and full of found family vibes#*holds gently*#i love these idiots so much#sing headcanons#stan and barry are essentially older versions of johnny and nooshy#sing johnny (only mentioned)
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More Spider-Man AU Stuff
Johnny became Spider-Man or Skate-Spider on a school field trip when he was young, but went for a long while without taking up the title. He only did eventually because he realised he could help people in a way he couldn't before and save them like he couldn't save his mum. She died while he was young due to an illness but he still blamed himself and saw being Spider-Man as a coping mechanism at first.
The singing competition was essentially the same but without the gang plotline and the characters being much younger. They all became friends afterwards like the do out of AU but have spent 3-ish years together at this point. Buster also adopted Ash then as well.
Jimmy runs a newspaper as well as a ton of other entertainment things and they do all hate Spider-Man.
Instead of Spider-Man losing a police captain or his uncle, he has to be the one to sever his ties with his uncles and dad. In this AU he never knew about the gang and caught them in a robbery. Johnny tried to talk them out of it, even revealing his identity, but couldn't and in the end arrested them. Aka a much more angsty disownment arc.
Nooshy was adopted by Marcus around two years before the start of this AU when he found them camping out behind the garage. She lives in her own apartment now but acts as Johnny's “person in the chair” after helping him come up with the Skate-Spider persona in the first place.
Rosita is still Johnny's foster mum and finds out he's Spider-Man when he returns from patrol too hurt to hide said fact. She immediately started covering for him and helping him improve his gadgets as a way to make sure he's safe.
Several newspapers are running rewards for who can tell them who Spider-Man is and the troupe are all competing together. Johnny is actually pretty scared they might find out who he is because they've gotten close before.
In the timeline, the singing competition in Sing 1 is replaced by just a regular show as it focuses more of Johnny being Skate-Spider and his relationships. The Redshore trip does still happen according to the timeline with the same plot points however, just with Spider-Man stuff thrown in.
Johnny has a different skateboard that he carries on patrol so his dad doesn't recognize it and he takes all the pins of his jacket before patrol as well (also his jacket has pins in this AU). When not skating on patrol, the skateboard is hung around his shoulders with a strand of webbing.
Ryan is actually introduced a bit before the Redshore trip as an English student who Johnny saves as Spider-Man. During the Redshore trip however, it's revealed that Ryan, as well as being a dancer, is in school an is doing a paper on modern heroism and wants to talk with Skate-Spider about what that's like as a hero vs as a civilian. Johnny is constantly scared he's going to figure his identity out.
Clay figures out Spider-Man’s identity after like 12 seconds but keep his identity a secret. He says this is due to him having a stage persona when he was younger so he recognized the two's similarities (Johnny and Skate-Spider).
Ryan does figure out Johnny's identity after a while and drops it in while they are hanging out after practice, promising to keep it a secret.
The troupe as a whole finds out Skate-Spider's identity during the big show down with the big bad and promptly freak out that their friend is likely hurt.
The disownment reconciliation scene wouldn't be at a theatre performance in this. It happens during a fight with a villain when part of the jail is destroyed, causing Johnny to panic about his family's safety. He runs into his dad and the two talk it out then.
Calatonia will be New Calatonia instead but Redshore stays the same.
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“No, you raised me to do the right thing. Why can’t you see that’s what I’m doing?”
“And you're willing to do that even if it means turning your back on your family? By betraying us?”
“If that’s what it takes, then yes.”
“Johnathan, don’t you dare-“
“I'm sorry dad.”
#sing#sing 2#spiderman au#sing johnny#sing ryan#sing marcus#sing big daddy#sing buster#sing ash#sing rynny#sing rosita#sing nooshy#yes ryan is the gwen stacy/mj here. no he will not completely die#he'll be fine!#eventually#i decided to work more on this instead of sleeping! spelling mistakes will be fixed soon#more beyblade au and pokemon au stuff next#oh and warriors au. ill do owl house au last#engineer rosita for the win y'all
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Johnny’s Names
Johnny has many different names. While Johnny is his most common one, he also goes by Johns, Jay, John, and so many more.
Johnny’s legal name is Johnathan Demarcus Taylor.
Johnathan is after his mum’s brother in a way, since his teachers always called him John instead of his actually name. So, she decided that Johnathan would be a subtle nod to her brother’s memory.
Demarcus was actually also his mum’s idea. Since Johnny’s first name honored her family, she felt his middle name should honor Marcus’s, but due to Marcus being disowned, Marcus’s family was just Marcus. It had the added benefit of annoying him due to him having made fun of his brother Lucien naming his son Lucas and now his son was in the same boat.
The last time Johnny was every referred to by this full name was when his dad (temporarily) disowned him in Sing 1. And the only time he heard it before that was by his mum on her death bed. Needless to say, Johnny is not overly fond of this name for that reason and he is never referred to as it. He will start crying
Johnny’s Hindi name is Jahnu Jiyaan Aarav Sutar.
Jahnu was actually his uncle’s name and carrying the theme from his english name, Johnny’s mum named Johnny after him. It also was a nod to her sister as well, as her name was Jahnaavi.
Jiyaan is the only “original” addition to Johnny’s Hindi name. Johnny’s mum was very sick when he was born, and while she did end up living a bit longer, she knew she would pass while he was still small. Therefore, she choose Jiyaan for his second first name since it meant near heart, symbolizing she would always be with him in his heart.
Aarav was after his maternal grandfather. Family was incredibly important to his mum, and due to her being the only surviving member of her family, she made sure to honor their memories.
Sutar was his mum’s maiden name and was her mother’s last name. It was her way of incorporating her mother into Johnny’s name.
Johnny is mainly called his Hindi name in more serious situations or when he’s in trouble. However, it is also the name Nana calls him (she insists on calling the trio by formal names) as well as his aunties and uncles at the Hindu Temple he sometimes attends.
Hobbs calls Johnny Kallik.
Hobbs (Nana’s Butler) gave each member of the Moon Trio an Inuk name as a show of affection since the three reminded him so strongly of his own children. Johnny’s name is Kallik and means lightning, due to the lightning shaped markings in his undercut.
Johnny loves this name and has started to learn bits of Inuktitut as a form of respect to Hobbs and all he’s done for them.
Rosita calls him Jonatán at times.
The Spanish form of Johnathan, Rosita mainly used this when talking either to her family about Johnny or her colleges (as Johnny didn’t want to stand out and it helped hid him in her kids’ names. She only really uses it on Johnny if he’s in trouble.
Johnny is pretty ok with this name actually. It was nice for him to blend into Rosita’s kids (at least name wise) as then she wouldn’t have had to explain he was a foster kid. He is also terrified of it though since it means he’s in trouble.
His dad calls him John-Song or John-Bird.
John-Song and John-Bird are both versions of Johnny’s mum’s nickname for him, Songbird. Marcus started calling his son that when he was little but gradually stopped as he got older. It wasn’t until after Sing 1 that he resumed the use of the nickname as a way to be close to Johnny.
Of all the names he is called, this is Johnny’s absolute favourite. Not only does it remind him of his mum but it also the first thing his dad started doing once their relationship started to heal. It always makes him feel happy and loved.
#sing#sing 2#sing johnny#sing marcus (only mentioned)#sing rosita (only mentioned)#sing oc (only mentioned)#jia is my version of johnny's mum and I love her so much#johnny's mass collection of names#sing hobbs (only mentioned)#sing human au#he's always been a singer#even his mum knew#healing relationships mentioned#this kid is collecting names like pokemon cards#these are all headcannons (obviously)
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