#rip paint3d

[quohotos]

Because of this thing. The Microsoft Hololens

See we don't realize it now that we're in windows 11, but this thing was the fucking end game for microsoft. This was what windows 10 was supposed to be. You ever seen a Joshua tree

These things evolved for giant pre-historic sloths that all died out and now they just carry on all alone and sad. That's windows 10 without the hololense. See if you look at any strange decision microsoft made it was all with that device in mind. Why UWP? Well the Universal Windows Platform would let you build applications that ran on a C# virtual machine that would be supported across all windows devices, your PC, your Xbox, and your AR goggles that you'd strap to your face. In a world where everything was holograms it meant that Paint needed to also be in 3d, because in the space future we'll treat 3d models just like pngs! That's why there needs to be a 3d models folder, because we're all gonna be sending eachother 3d soyjacks that we make in 3d paint that we can then display around our virtual desktops and view in 3d.

There's just one problem.

It's 3000 dollars. Yeah, it's 1k per eye, plus 1k for any device that can run holograms in real time and have any overhead left over to do like... you know PC things.

Anyways Microsoft believed that was a deal-breaker

Picture completely unrelated^

They pivoted their entire OS' direction around this peripheral, changed their design language

They replaced the cute xbox 360 avatars with this beast that looks like paint 3d and is equally as cursed and maybe one day I'll talk about it too (why does it have a memory leak? Why does it slow down my fucking xbox series x? Why does it just never load on the xbox one x the hardware it was actually fucking built for??)

But there was a problem, a consumer Hololense was always coming "soon TM". This current version was too expensive, and if it's too expensive no one will develop software for it... so they needed a stop gap, a cheap way to get into the ecosystem so that when godot finally showed up and told us how to make the hololens cheaper we'd have plenty of software to run on it.

Enter these fucking things

The windows mixed reality platform. The idea was, these are VR headsets but they're also mixed reality because you can flip up the visor and I guess see the real world idk.

No these are just VR headsets, what makes them mixed reality is that they'd use the same standard as the hololense, just they'd do it all in a virtual space for a fraction of the cost. Smart idea, unfortunately no one used them for that

They were dirt cheap compared to the competition, and at the time they were better than an occulus or a vive on both resolution and also in the fact that they were inside out tracked so you didn't need base stations. Now see, microsoft didn't make these first party, they just made the spec and licensed them out to all the other brands which is why there's so much variation. They all basically do the same shit they just have a fresh coat of paint.

Oh did I mention they suck?

They use these big ass controllers that have visible light tracking which kills the battery life, but also because of manufacturing defect there's extra resistance on the battery contacts which leads them to always read low battery and go into power saving mode on fresh batteries unless you put in like state of the art over volted lithium ion batteries.

Oh yeah and the controllers have a weird king Solomon split the baby control scheme where they have no face buttons, but they do have both a stick and a trackpad trying to split the difference between a vive and an occulus. Later revisions reverted to an A and B button, but when these things came out that's where we thought Vr gaming would go. Also, the controllers were only made to match the headsets. You could rebind and repair them to a different device, but you only ever got the two that came with your headset. If one broke you were fucked, sorry kid, they were not sold separately

The idea was you'd develop software for the Hololesns one of these things and maybe play some vr games on the windows store...

...no one did that. Six months after launch they added a way to use it with steamVR and that's all these things were ever used for. Very very few games ever natively supported the VR features. The ones for minecraft kicked ass, and they're going away soon :(

It was kind of a rough step, but hey, first generation. Surely there will be an updated standard and good features will keep rolling in. Right? Right?

Well everyone but Samsung and HP gave up. Their models were on the high end expensive, all the cheap ones never got a refresh. The standard got a few tiny features, and broke a bunch of old ones.

Well hold on, these things only need a USB port and an HDMI to plug in, and since Sony has just released the PSV and UWP already supports VR now surely these will come to xbox, right?

No. Fuck you. Why would they do that it would literally just be free.

Idk maybe the xbox didn't have usb 3.0, but again, that'd be the perfect time to add it to the xxboxx one xx or like the xbox seires or something, you know, you could even use the kinect for body tracking.

No.

Fuck you.

Release it once and abandon it. We put an earnest but small amount of effort into something and it didn't instantly set the world on fire and sell a million copies. We didn't really try and it didn't succeed, so I guess we gotta give up. That's the Microsoft way.

This october they killed all support for these things in windows 11, just pushed a fuck you patch that shuts it off. There's no workaround. No one cares enough to hack it, they assume you've moved on since then, and since it needs windows to function it's not like the linux people will come to our rescue.

So yeah, that's what windows was supposed to be, the cool hologram future where windows can enter the third dimension and every app needs to support touch and gesture and mouse and controller input and we'll all be waving our hands around and jerking each-other off virtually and it'll be a grand old time.

That was the future you were promised. The paint 3d future... and Microsoft fumbled it. They never solved the hololens, they never committed, they never got windows 11 to have a consistent design language, they never got us to switch to UWP. They gave up. Fun is over.

They gave up. Take all the fun stuff out, round the corners, center the taskbar. Admit defeat. Windows is now MacOS but with more ads

Oh and sell the 3d objects, trade it in for magic AI beans

This fucker. This fucker is the cool new 20 something that my father that is Leonardo Dicaprio (that is also Microsoft) has taken home and replaced mom with. New microsoft isn't about jacking into the matrix or rotating objects with your mind, it's about being sheek and having the AI lie to you while the world burns around you.

There's a new paint now. it's got layers, it's like... like a better program.

That's not the point.

The point of paint is to be shit. And man, paint 3d was shit. In special, cool ways. Every time you use it there's a new horrible way it just fails to work, is ass backwards, or they expect you to use it for the strangest things. I'll miss it. I'll miss it so much.

For 10 years windows didn't have a solid identity, they fucked around and tried things but never locked in. Now they're all in on an identy, and that identity is less features and more bloat and more spying and more AI and a million e-wasted headsets and broken dreams and my beloved paint 3d left alone and cold but never forgotten.

Paint 3d will live on my harddrive until the fucking bombs drop. You can claw my terrible, mediocre software from my cold dead hands. Yes, paint 3d was a spit in the face but jokes on you I'm into that shit (in a software sense only, please do not do that to me in real life I will go home and cry)

i demand the 3D objects thoughts

Well I put it off to the absolute last possible moment. If you're reading this it's already too late. Paint 3d is dead

You will not be able to download it from the Microsoft store, and let's be honest, it's too shit for anyone to actually archive it (not that I'd even know how given it's a uwp distributed through the store and never offered as a standalone exe)

But let's not dance on paint 3d's untimely grave. As the world's first ever Kafkaesque photo editor it gave something very special to us all. I've come to love it, even if every time I use it I feel a deep and unending desire to become the joker. So let us Eulogize this beautiful mix failed start of a future we were promised but was failed to be born. Let's pour one out for Paint 3d, and explain once and for all what it really means to paint 3d.

What is paint 3d?

Before you can understand Paint 3d, you must first understand ms paint. Microsoft paint, often just referred to as "Paint" is one of the oldest standard programs to come with any windows installation. It's a bitmap editor that was begun long before most tiktok users were even born. It holds a special place in a lot of 90s and 00s kid's hearts for two reasons.

without fail, it will be installed on every windows machine. You will always have paint. It's dependable, fast, easy to get into, and will open corrupted or mislabeled images. It's the notepad of images, quick, dirty and gets the job done. You can copy and paste screenshots into there to quickly crop them

It's a little bit shit. It doesn't support transparency (well it does now but lets not get ahead of ourselves) so if you tried to make a minecraft skin with it you'd get all these solid color blobs. It doesn't support layers, so anything made on it is going to have a level of earnest shittyness to it. Text can't be rotated, bounding boxes have to be predefined shapes, and once something is on the page it's on the fucking page. MS. Paint will put pixels on the page for you, but after that point it won't hold your hand.

Point 2 is really a larger part of how ms. Paint is remembered. Ms. Paint is synonymous with youth, it's synonymous with limited computer time, with ignorance, with having nothing better. The spectacle of doing anything in Ms. Paint lead to the selling point of ms paint adventures which became homestuck. If you want to strawman someone's political opinions, you draw them in MS paint. The early, edgy, ugly look of the 00s web was defined by MS paint just as much as it was defined by adobe flash. The limitations of this piece of shit software defined a generation's artistic identity. We love it because it is shit. We would not have it any other way

Okay but you didn't explain Paint 3d!

Well, gosh, don't interrupt me. Yeah, so what is paint 3d? In 2017 Paint was added to the deprecated feature list. A special update was pushed so if you opened up paint it would ask you if you'd rather switch to paint 3d

Paint 3d put a fresh new stab at the utility, redoing it in the new UWP format and dressing it up in the company's then standard design language. The refresh also added a whole host of nice, modern features such as:

An updated set of tools, some but not all of which are pressure sensitive when used with tablets/touch

The ability to use transparency!

Hurray those are great new features wait what do those other buttons do?

Yes paint 3d lives up to it's name, you can add stock 3d models to any of your drawings and they're all kinda awful

3d text, 3d models, go ahead and place them in your scene. They put the whole project spark asset library in there last year, if you can think of it it's probably not in there but hey there'll be something and it may or may not have a texture because the model may have been intended for 3d printing

You can manipulate these objects with a slick interface that's completely non industry standard but hey it at least looks nice.

Models can also be painted on and you can pick from these options to decide the albedo/metalic values. No I don't know how to set the custom values, sometimes it's there and if you click off it's gone forever. Good luck

Oh and also when you're painting you're given a very convenient gizmo to rotate the object that isn't available in normal mode. You can multi select objects and group them together but beware it doesn't always work and using the undo key sometimes spawns a new copy at the wrong position and scale but don't worry this is a small bug in a new program and certainly won't be present in the final version on November 4th I promise.

You can put stickers on models and there's a nice little UI to stamp it if you want to put multiple here are all the stock standard stickers

You can also use these pretty tiling textures

Or you can add any png from your hardrive

Those are the only options you'll ever get or need. You can also spawn arbitrary shapes, like cubes and spheres

And in a post launch update they even added the fucking TUBE BRUSH

Look how many tube there is. So many tube You can also edit the points individually after they're created but each tube has a maximum number of points that it can contain and you have no way of knowing until it's too late.

You can also use the 3d doodle to make a shitty potato looking thing, but if you browse the #paint3d tag you'll see a lot of people more talented than me using that tool to it's fullest

As you saw you also have the option to round or point the corners.

At any point you can click the 3d view button and suddenly you're no longer head on, you can orbit the camera and view the scene from any angle. Is it actually good to work with 3d scenes in this program? God fucking no

This scene nearly killed my computer to make, and that thing had okay specs for the time. Placing objects with the non standard (but touch friendly) controls is a pain and the camera cannot be oriented in any meaningful way. There is no frecam, there is no camera scale, you can orbit, you can pan. If you want more go learn blender.

You can also change the time of day

Go ahead, rotate the sun or change the filter, some of them are even minecraft specific. Most of them are objectively worse than the default, but hey you get a lot of options

Okay yes these are all cool features, but I've been dancing around paint 3d's one actually cool feature, the one that drives me mad... because it's a good idea

great even...

...too bad it's shackled to this program.

Oh this? This? yeah we can fuck with this. Now we're fucking talking

Now I can move my objects around in 3d, scale them, reorent them and make all kind of cool 3d compositions out of cut out pieces of my 2d artwork. If you look at any cool marketing material this is by far the feature they're most proud of

The possibilities are endless... unfortunately they're also frustrating.

See that flower I made has a white background, and there's no magic eraser so I'd need to manually cut it out with the eraser... or use magic select

If you're in a video call while this UI is active and you're sharing your screen it will only show the gif and not the program itsself

With the add and subtract tools you can provide hints about what should and should not be included. That's fine for something as simple as this drawn with a pen tool, but... well if you like to draw with the pencil? Get ready for pain buckeraroo. You can't manually slice out what you want, you just have to get the AI to guess and it will never guess perfectly. Part of your bat will be left behind on the canvas or it'll start picking up a few extra white pixels

but hey, it's 3d now, sometimes it works. You can choose to content aware fill whatever was behind on the canvas, or leave a weird white empty space behind

But now I have a field of flowers I can move however I like, okay but I think I want to add an extra leaf to one of them

Get fucked. Idiot. Once you cut it out, it's like paper. These 3d canvasses can never be grown, only shrunk and only by the eraser tool which carves in a perfect circle like a bull in a china shop. Now, it's actually very cool how you can recursively create new 3d canvasses out of existing ones, and I'm sure you could do cool stuff but any time the canvas shrinks that's as big as it'll ever be it can never grow

Also, yeah you can't just make a canvas in place, you either have to reserve space on your main canvas or clip it off of a second canvas you make earlier and just... I don't know stash it off to the side out of frame? this is how you use layers and if you want to re-order them put them in literal 3d space? Want to hide a layer? Put it behind your canvas.

This is what experts are calling: "technically a workflow, I guess"

This would be a really cool feature, unfortunately it's just not finished. It's missing that extra 20% that would make it at home in real software versus just a toy. Just like paint you have to sort of plan ahead and make all of your layers. In order... but in reverse bob ross order. See you need to make all of your foregrounds first, then and only then can you start working on your background canvas, and should you ever change your mind and want another foreground you must destroy a space of your background to create it. Oh, also, once it's 3d it can never be re-projected back into 2d... well you can turn it into a sticker, which kicks ass, but that will be flattened, if you wanted to retain the 3d rotation of it too bad. Also, making something into a sticker physically consumes it, so you'll need to copy and paste it first just in case otherwise it's gone forever

oh yeah and sometimes copy and pasting doesn't work, creates extra clones, or places them at the wrong space.

Okay let's save our work

You can actually save it as a project folder. You heard me right, folder. Paint 3d stores projects as individual folders

And they're all just called checkpoint, there's no association with like, which project each one is

And they're all full of undocumented binary files, with the exception of a png thumbnail at the very bottom.

So uhhh, why? You can't send project files to other people, at least not easilly. Is this some library that I don't know about? This all boggles my mind. I mean a .docx file is just a renamed zip file was it too much to ask to make these all renamed zips? Why would you leave it half finished like that and just not make a "new" file type?

Okay sorry I got lost in the weeds. Also I hit the image limit for this post so you're just gonna have to bear with me and use your imagination. You can do this I believe in you.

You can export as a .glb file that goes to your 3d objects folder (put a pin in that), or you can export it as a video/gif. There are few pre-canned animations like bobbing back and forth or rotating on a turntable. They can be sped up or slowed down, but that's about it.

Okay but why 3d?

God damnit I'm going to need more images for this so I'm gonna post this as is and hope I can add more photos on the reblog...

[ivane-embraces-the-weirdness]

Random Joke from 2017, made with Paint3D. It just came to my mind, when I had a Flashback from a Situation, where a muggle-like pupil in my class asked me if I was sane after I accidently made a conflict much more worse & awkward. Can’ t really remember what it was, though. Since then this Comic Comes to my mind & I feel at least a little better, when I imagine being that creepy Neko who is talking to her also creepy dad. Out of context it might seen that she doesn’t know how to act, because she takes her clearly escaped-the-asylum-dad for an example. But the thought behind is as follows:

For Centuries her Family inheritates cat-features, wich is the reason, why they got hunted down, or isolated from society. (It exists really just one Family-string, because it’s hard to find a tolerant Partner & they Always had single children) Today they’re only getting tolerated, because they stand on Two legs, can speak & able to work human Jobs. But they act fully rational & ask Questions, no matter if it hurts the questioned Person or not. All in all fully rational Actions. And they pay back the way it affects them. And they’re very sensible!

That means: You share your lunch with me. I’ll cook you a meal.

You Play pranks on me. I’ll rip out your guts.

Logic: What ever you do to me, you’ll always pay or receive double the Price!

And Always remember: they have permanently this blank stare or smile in their face!

Moral: If humans wouldn’t have teated them like that, but instead thought them how to act, she may have known, what sanity is.

[gabrieletheman]

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[100sunny]

Tried to make a molesona edit through Paint3D, rip quality.