#riin rewatches v8
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#I'm so excited to see what their post ever after dynamic will look like /gen#I feel like Weiss is gonna try to watch Ruby's back much more and Ruby might try to spend more time together#they really need to just go on lighthearted fun after all that#also Ruby being the first to activate both relics???? poggers#also the second to Claim one (Yang and the lamp being the first)#my money's on Weiss for Choice and Blake for Destruction#riin rewatches v8
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LOOK AT EACH OTHER IN AFFIRMATION LOVINGLY
#I miss them. So much. Want more on screen lovey-dovey Renora moments oh so dearly#riin rewatches v8
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excuse me while I screencap all the hugs tonight
#I haven't slept since Monday morning. ok#I start work tmrw#life hard pillow soft#freezerburn hug my beloved#Weiss loves and supports Yang so bad ough.#riin rewatches v8
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NORA SUPER SAIYAN TIME LET’S FUCKING GOOOOO
#👑#Weiss may be the Ice Queen but Nora really is Queen of the Castle#just two queens hanging out#yo tbh#all of Ruby's group are princesses kinda in some way#Penny is the protector of Mantle and a Maiden and basically the General's disgraced right hand#Ruby is a SEW and Summer Rose's daughter (the Narrative Haunter Supreme)#Weiss. Need I explain#and Nora just deserves a crown I think 👑#and Blake was the heiress to the White Fang and her parents are still Chiefs of Menagerie she's a princess alright#can't remember atm if WF has an inheritance system but point being her dad was leader pre-Beacon#ooh and May is also like a disgraced Lady pretty much being from Atlas elite in origin#riin rewatches v8
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idek wtf to say about 13 and 14 like. Just sat there dying inside again the whole hour
there's one little detail that kills me about the start of the Cinder fight spiralling and that's the fact that Ruby was literally about to flashbang her again, glowing eyes n all but she was late by seconds. The level of self blame that must have added to her on top of everything else already in the mix.
Weiss double wielding Myrtenaster and Gambol Shroud. Oh my god damn I can't fucking. Do that. With weapons beinf extensions of their wielders and her taking it forward with her (and Yang technically too, seeing it has the gold mend in the blade) as a reminder. And her having to hold Blake back from jumping off after Yang always fucking hurts me also. The four of them would literally follow each other through hell and back and to the death for better or worse it's painful. Also just realising that with Weiss being in front of Cinder and her having to turn around to see Jaune killing Penny means that Weiss would have probably seen it all happen too.
Winter losing absolutely everything too. Fucjing hell. Her home and mentor, her school, her career, her dad, her sister, her friend and the one to show her that her humanity is one kf the most valuable things she could ever have and that it's something to be embraced and something that you need to acceot as part of yourself rather than repress and push away. Penny and Winter both getting the maiden powers as proof of being human underneath their respective machinery (esp since Winter's brace and armour in v8 make her look very cyborg-like as well, as if she followed Ironwood down his path to a self-destructive degree as well before she realisedwhat his thinking was actually like) is something that always gets me incredibly fucking emo (I likr to argue that Penny's real blue fairy moment was with Fria rather than Ambrosius because of this. The real proof to the world and to herself that anyone ever needed that she has a soul and a personhood was this as was for Winter and yet everyone around her with power tried so desperately to take that humanity away from her (IW, Watts, Salem, Jacques, Cinder). She deserved evey hug she got and more I can't with her.)
Oh Cinder.... I do think that she meant it when she said to Watts that he deserved it but as usual it was also just so twisted... like as in he deserved to be in charge of this part of the operation but also deserved to die by her hand and with about as much panic and suffering as possible (trapped on a falling city in a locked room full of fire smoke). What he said absolutely had an impact on her and while she was still absolutely keeping up a facade as usual I also think part of her words were genuine in that moment. But in the end of the day she still goes back to Salem GOD DAMN IT RAAAAHHHH
The entire volume she's just been stuck in a loop of repeating the cycle of tryinf to convince herself that she has any sort of power or influence and then cutting any bridges she had except for Salem herself down and then crawling back to Salem not acknowledging that she's never actually stopped living in someone's inescapable servitude to begin with. The maiden power collecting saga for her is just fuel for her own ego and always has been. I love how much more of an emphasis we've been seeing on her Grimm arm being a leash as well in v8. Go failgirl go!!! Also v interested to find out whether her last line to Ruby has Lore™ or if it's just an xbox live moment djjdkdkd
Breaking news!!! Harriet finally admits to herself that she is actually friends with her team!!! And now she's gonna have to confront the way she's been leading them to their deaths, namely im the form of Vine's sacrifice. Interested to see what her development in Vacuo is gonna look like... I can see the remaining ace ops getting a lot closer now that they have to rely on each other more closely to survive and can admit that they're friends really. Harriet working through her arrogance and competitiveness that brought herself and Vine down their paths would be very cool.
Though FUCKING. JACQUES [rips shift] on one hand let that fuckass stay gone I never wanted a redemption arc for him or anything like that not at all but dying is like. The 2nd worst thing after that for me let that man marinate in his own misery forever or something where he actually needs to confront his family and the people he hurt and get shat on by them WHYYYY. How did Ironwood even have access to his gun gun at that point. Fucjing hell raaa€AAAAAAAAA
Only other detail I DISlike is Oz somehow knowing exactly what Weiss said to Ambrosius... like yeah sure he knows he works on genie logic like Jinn does and might have figured out this was part of the wording in some form but. Oscar was never there.... [Peetah Family Guy death pose]
Qrow oh my guy Qrow was having the worst fucking day of his life, last he saw the kids they all split off the ship crashing into Mantle and next thing he knows they're MIA and presumed dead to him cus he's been in jail the whole time. Right as he starts to get a good turn on life it blows up in his face in the worst possible way. He genuinely looks like something in him just dies this man has had enough.
Honestly Ironwood going down with his ship right after Salem personally shows up and looks him in the eye was really fitting. He was exhausted and completely vulnerable and right in the core of the city, his greatest fears having finally caught up to him and mocked him. He's gone down the wrong path to try and protect the city and himself and it spat in his face in the end. Yadda yadda something about Ironwood embodying Atlas bearing the world on his shoulders and breaking down from the weight. Fucking hell dude that was insane. Imo IW's entire arc and conduct were always going to hit back at him and be the thing to bring him down and it just worked.
Fucking hell v8 was just. Bleak. Peak of the despair arc for sure even v9 had its moments but there was just. So god damned much shit happening at once and it was all going wrong and the stakes were so much higher than Beacon. Need to sit down [barbie pose]
#What. The fucm#Why do I put myself through this#got too silly....#every day I wake up#GOD. PENNY. GIRLIE. I SWEAR TO GOD#DID NOT DESERVE ANY OF IT I CAN'T DO THIS#FUCJING HELL#Every single time#Seeing Penny die again the first time legitimately made me take a year long break it was so full of horrors#Slaps roo bie this show can fit so many self sacrificial characters in it#All she wanted was a chance to finally be her own person and as soon as she got it she died by Cinder's hand again#Let's not even start with Jaune here becajse. Holy shit. Post v9 we all know how that went down#riin rewatches v8
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Backreading my liveblog tags and I’m going back on my bs on who between Blake/Weiss I think would thematically best to get which relic out of Destruction/Choice (currently really into the thought of Choice!Blake and Destruction!Weiss)
Prefacing talking a bit about Yang for Knowledge and Ruby for Creation tho!
Obviously Yang’s whole arc was about finding knowledge for herself and finding out why Raven left, where she was, what kind of person she really was... and arguably later on also changing Adam’s status from “still out there” to guaranteed and known. But she has also always been shown passing knowledge as much as she’s gained it I think. She was a parental figure to Ruby and even still she tries to teach her, guide her and show her how the world works. One of the things that she calls out the most in the series is the existence of uncertainty- her wanting the thrill of not knowing what tomorrow will bring but also not taking any bullshit or accepting half-truths and lies. Hell her hunt for the truth is about to be MASSIVELY reignited if/when Ruby chooses to drop the bomb about Summer leaving with Raven on her last mission.
Creation Ruby works really well imo aside from the fact that she’s the fastest dasher and had to grab it first in the moment. Ruby’s character is so representative of alchemical silver it’s crazy, with all of her allusions to the moon and purity and being a “smaller, more honest soul” and whatnot. But of course alchemy also brings about the process of transmutation- taking one thing and turning it into something new. She’s a character that inspires, creates determination and drives people forward wherever she goes- hell she created an entire army by speaking on the message in V8 as we saw in the V9 finale (aside: that ending oh my god that ending still makes me so fuckin emo raaahhhh). Silver eyes very much feel tied to the GoL, who has them in his dragon form and whose whole purpose is creation. Her entire goal starting out was to create a world that was better than the one she was handed. Scythes of the curved style that Crescent Rose is most associated with originally coming from the farming tool rather than war scythes.
Destruction Weiss bc I just think it would be way more fitting with her whole arc of breaking out of her family and being the one to take what Schnee means, destroy it and mold it into something new and positive and something that’s truly personally hers. She comes from a background of things being destroyed around her- her name, her family’s stability, health and public reputation, Amity Coliseum, the entire Kingdom and city that she wanted to dedicate herself to bettering and fighting for and considered her home. But they’ve always been a negative while all she wants is a chance to change and mold things for the better instead. Even Winter comments on it a few times- Weiss isn’t aiming for or representing perfection, she doesn’t need it and her visual design has always quite literally represented that, but rather she makes what’s hers her own. She takes negative destruction that’s out of her control and molds it into positive destruction that she can mold to her desire. Also Princess of the Bourgeois Snow Kingdom being the least adapted to Vacuo in literally every way possible being the one to get the Vacuo relic is such a funny contradiction to me XD
Choice Blake bc she’s always been part of a duality her entire life and as a character- human/cat, dual-wielding a traditional and modern style weapon (a blade and a pistol), working best in a pair, constantly being torn over whether to stay or run... bisexual and her choices that she made on her own while she believed in herself enough to make them being the ones that mattered most (staying in the Fang and trying to see the good in it, leaving the Fang and Adam to start her own journey in life, rallying Menagerie and coming to Haven to aide the battle, reuniting with her team, choosing Yang...). Also her design has always been made up of contrasting colours- most prominently black and white but later also purple and yellow. She was almost always paired with a character with a sun/light motif in Sun and Yang (arguably Adam, too, since the name originates with the first human in the Torah/Bible (hello fellow Jews) and his whole Thing with the Fang being trying to bring on the dawn of a new age or whatnot. Twisted but hey if that ain’t bang on character). The choices she’s made have all had a huge impact on herself and those around her, arguably some of the most impactful in the series so far. Her being the one to make what’s arguably the most important two consecutive singular choices of all- taking the crown of choice and using it, would be super neat to me tbh.
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Also another detail I didn't mention is that I've noticed how seamless Oscar and Ozma switching is getting at this point. Oscar wielding the parry ability extremely naturally. "There's something WE didn't tell you." Oz switching practically mid sentence from where Oscar left off. One of my favourite aspects of post-Beacon RW/BY is seeing Oscar and the way him and Ozma's merge usually sneaks further and further into the front over time through both major events and just tiny little changes like body language and how Oscar carries himself etc. I love that kinda stuff
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I’m also wondering how the Choice and Destruction entities are like compared to Jinn and Ambrosius,,, Imagine you’ve got these two super powerful graceful spirits inhabiting the first two we’ve seen and then the next two are three possums in a trench coat and a wizard who hasn’t seen daylight in millennia MDKSMLD
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Winter having enough love and respect for Weiss to agree to keep Jacques safe despite [gestures over at the Schnee household wildly]. Gotta at least respect Winter for not slitting his throat on the spot
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THIRTEEN FOOT TALL MAGIC MAN
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[bass-boosted through a megaphone turned up to max] DO. NOT. FALL.
#otherwise you'll just end up on the edge of the world and wonder should you sit should you stand should you kne- [gunshot]#riin rewatches v8
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both relic entities so far have different flavours of genie logic- Jinn being of the type to take as vague a question as possible and formulate a hyper-specific answer to match and Ambrosius being of the type to need every little detail to be able to formulate a solution properly
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“One way ticket to Vacuo” god both Ambrosius and Jinn work on genie logic. That was incredibly specific girlie nooooooooo
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