#relistened to the album on a long bus ride today
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fish-want-women-me-fear-me Ā· 6 months ago
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The GOP is basically just the wannabe Samurai Abstinence Patrol. Maybe the Council of Dick Elders. Take your pic.
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youareboththebestbestfriend Ā· 5 years ago
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This is LONG, Iā€™m sorry. I have a theory about how Hoax & the 1 are linked. So I relistened to Hoax with lyrics ready, because Iā€™ve heard it before but didnā€™t really LISTEN. I did now and I feel like, what ended Kaylor, is that Karlie did betray/deceive her with the Scooby thing. Or maybe she didnā€™t sell her out, but she didnā€™t STOP working with him, she didnā€™t end a contract. In a way, she choose HIS side. I feel thatā€™s what Hoax is about (see lyrics below). I feel like the 1 is actually coming to terms with losing the person Taylor thought was the one. I think Hoax was written before the 1. I like that the ending track is host, because when you replay the album, it continues the story by saying sheā€™s trying to feel better about it. So here it goesā€¦ (hehe)
HOAX
My only one // refers back to ā€œthe 1ā€ (see below)My smoking gun // I think Taylor ā€œkilledā€ the relationship
My eclipsed sun // Karlie being the sun, but eclipsed, meaning in the shadows/not visible
This has broken me down // Sheā€™s hurt by her decision to end it
My twisted knife // Call it what you want reference or maybe TIWWCHNT or LWYMMD about backstabbing
Stood on the cliffside screaming, "Give me a reason" // For Karlie betraying her/SB drama
Your faithless love's the only hoax I believe in // faithless (disloyal) loveā€™s the only hoax (deception)
Don't want no other shade of blue but you // Never seen that shade of blue (Karlie Konfirmed)
No other sadness in the world would do // Sheā€™d take her back (I think, this is also a theme in more songs on folklore)
My best laid plan // Plan of coming out or going public together?
Your sleight of hand // skilful deception, she really didnā€™t see it coming
My barren land, I am ash from your fire // swaying as the room burned down (DWOHT reference)
You know I left a part of me back in New York // She moved to NYC (for her)
You knew the hero died, so what's the movie for // all my heroes die all alone (the Archer, where she asked ā€œwould you stay?ā€)
You knew it still hurts underneath my scars // (see below the 1)
From when they pulled me apart // Scooby Braun drama
You knew the password, so I let you in the door // I donā€™t like your kingdom keys, they once belonged to me (LWYMMD reference)
But what you did was just as dark // Dark side, I look for your dark side (the Archer)
Darling, this was just as hard as when they pulled me apart // SB drama obviously hurt but the fact that Karlie wasnā€™t on her side was just as hard
My only one, my kingdom come undone // KOMH reference??
My broken drum, you have beaten my heart // Didnā€™t she use drums in KOMH at rep tour as well??
THE 1
I'm doing good, I'm on some new shit // Better than when writing Hoax Been saying "Yes" instead of "No" // Seems like she avoided meeting with people/being depressed and finding her way back to normal life I thought I saw you at the bus stop, I didn't though // I forgot which song where she talks about them/her seeing someone/her ghost?Ā  I hit the ground running each night, I hit the Sunday matinee // both distractions to feel better You know the greatest films of all time were never made // ā€˜cause cruelty wins in the movies (the Archer) I guess you never know, never know // she didnā€™t expect deception, see Hoax And if you wanted me, you really should've showed // showed Taylor that she was on HER side not SB And if you never bleed, you're never gonna grow // she talks about herself, bleeding refers back to Hoax, how much that hurt (scars/beaten heart) And it's alright now // sheā€™s doing better But we were something, don't you think so? // this seems like looking back on good memories And if my wishes came true it would've been you // pretty clear she wished Karlie would have been the 1, also refers back to some songs on Lover (including title track) In my defense, I have none // she has NO ONE, pretty clear bearding/Joe breakup For never leaving well enough alone // I never leave well enough alone (ME! Reference) Having adventures on your own // I think she wants Karlie to choose for herself, ā€œmy ride or dieā€ reference You meet some woman on the Internet and take her home // I feel this refers to ā€œstalk you on the internetā€ in gorgeous. Maybe Karlie was the one stalking her and taking HER home? I feel like sheā€™s telling Karlie itā€™s OK to have adventures on your own and then let history repeat itself but making the ending different? We never painted by the numbers, baby // we were different, not following rules a.k.a. sounds like not following heteronormative standards You know the greatest loves of all time are over now // I donā€™t actually know this reference, it does give me the Archer vibes (would you stay?) I guess you never know, never know // this reminds me again of the archer, wishing you knew if someone would stay, I guess you never know if someone betrays you If one thing had been different would everything be different today? // pretty sure this is about if one of them was a man, their love wouldnā€™t have had faced many problems they had today ā€“ problems that may have broken them up For digging up the grave another time // I think this is referring back to Hoax, where she did dig up the grave, this is why I think Hoax was written before the 1Ā Ā 
Other lyrics I think may relate to this theory:
Cardigan (Karligan) But I knew you, dancing in your Levi's drunk under a streetlight // Karlie was a Leviā€™s model and the drunk under a streetlight gives me YAIL vibes To kiss in cars and downtown bars was all we needed, You drew stars around my scars, but now I'm bleeding // Cornelia street/Delicate vibes and Dress ā€œput your mark on me, a golden tattooā€, the now Iā€™m bleeding refers back to Hoax/the 1 'Cause I knew you, stepping on the last train, marked me like a bloodstain, I knew you, tried to change the ending // she knew Karlie and hadnā€™t seen deception/Hoax coming and tried to save their relationship but Karlie didnā€™t show (Hoax) as in; stop hanging/working with SB It does feel like in the end of Cardigan they made up? Taylor did talk in Hoax about how sheā€™d want no other sadness than that love. Basically all of Exile screams break-up, not specifically related to the hurt/deception in Hoax (explicitly). Except maybe the ā€œyou never gave me a warning sign/I didnā€™t see the signsā€ about betrayal. It does give me big KOMH vibes with the whole, ā€œyouā€™re not my homeland/crown anymoreā€. It also references bearding (you laugh but the jokeā€™s not funny reminds me of how miserable Karlie always looks when sheā€™s out with Josh). When I hear the song I think of Taylor as the Man singing, and Taylor singing Karlieā€™s POV.. My tears ricochet does reference quite a few things. We gather here, we line up weeping in a sunlit room And if I'm on fire, you'll be made of ashes, too// she mentions the fire and ashes in Hoax. I feel like this is when they decided to have a talk, and the possible break-up.Ā  Even on my worst day, did I deserve, babe, all the hell you gave me? // this breaks my heart, basically same as ā€œscreaming Give me reasonā€ in Hoax Because I loved you, I swear I loved you till my dying day // Lover and CIWYW vibesĀ  I didn't have it in myself to go with grace // Donā€™t blame me reference? Or maybe she wanted to like, break up with Karlie and not be sad but strong and she couldnā€™t be strong? And if I'm dead to you why are you at the wake? // Feeling like Karlie still checks up on Taylor with their shared friends maybe? Or uses her for clout. Cursing my name, wishing I stayed, look at how my tears ricochet // Iā€™m confused at this partĀ  We gather stones, never knowing what they'll mean, some to throw, some to make a diamond ring // Josh/Karlie marriage? You know I didn't want to have to haunt you, but what a ghostly scene you wear the same jewels that I gave you as you bury me // I feel like the haunting relates to releasing folklore which she drags Karlie with her basically. The jewel reference is pretty obvious, I guess. 'Cause when I'd fight, you used to tell me I was brave // the times before they went through negativity together (kimye drama? Kissgate?) And I can go anywhere I want, anywhere I want just not home // Cornelia street vibes when Taylor left her own home And you can aim for my heart, go for blood but you would still miss me in your bones // I donā€™t know what this means but it hurts And I still talk to you when I'm screaming at the sky // at the sun, perhaps? And when you can't sleep at night you hear my stolen lullabies // this relates to a song about her ghost following the other person? I cannot remember what song And so the battleships will sink beneath the waves, you had to kill me, but it killed you just the same // I think this is a reference to Karlie not wanting to break up (wishing I stayed), so by choosing SBā€™s side, she killed Taylor and therefore their relationship/herself You turned into your worst fears, and you're tossing out blame, drunk on this pain, crossing out the good years // I feel like this could be both of the girlā€™s POV. The fears remind me of the archer and DWOHT. Crossing out the good years because it hurts. The good years where Karlie did stay by her side. I feel like mirrorball is before that. Itā€™s positive, shining just for you like the sun/Karlie shines for her. Iā€™m still a believer, I feel like they have had their fights but sheā€™s still a believer everything will be okay? I think this is written before Hoax? Seven is unrelated but gay AF, I mean ā€œhiding in the closetā€ and ā€œI still love youā€ about a girl with braided patterns. August is about their affairs/love even though Karlie was never hers, but unrelated to the Hoax/the 1 theory I think. Itā€™s more like a good looking back but being sad? Okay so thereā€™s a LOT in this is me trying. I feel like itā€™s Afterglow 2.0. She knows she crewed up, this is her trying to make up. Then thereā€™s the I tried pin. I feel like this part might be about a different time in their relationship? I donā€™t think it references SB drama and deception. I feel like itā€™s also HYGTG 2.0? Maybe if Afterglow and HYGTG had a child, haha. I think illicit affairs is Delicate 2.0 and about their sneaking around. I donā€™t think itā€™s related to Hoax. Itā€™s very gay tho, ā€œYou taught me a secret language I can't speak with anyone else and you know damn well for you I would ruin myself ...a million little timesā€. This also makes me feel like Taylor was ready to come out (together) but Karlie wasnā€™t. I feel like we always thought it was the other way around? I feel like invisible strings is about clues that when you start to identify as queer you look back and youā€™re like ā€œit makes so much senseā€. The three-year trip down to the lakes reminds me of big-sur but I donā€™t understand that timeline. That was in 2014? Thatā€™d mean theyā€™d been together since 2011? But I think they met/started seeing each other after VSFS 2013? Or maybe itā€™s not about Karlie, however the dive bar and gold have BIGASS delicate music video vibes. Like, the golden paper brought her to that dive bar in the video. So Delicate/invisible string are probably related. While mad woman might reference some things in Hoax, I donā€™t think itā€™s about that. I feel like itā€™s kimye or Scooby. I donā€™t think Karlie was poking a bear. I think she made a mistake that cost them their relationship, but not that she did it on purpose. The cursing my name, wishing Iā€™d come back makes me feel like Karlie regrets it as well. I feel like epiphany is about her mom or maybe even COVID? Not related to Kaylor? I do think Betty is about Karlie ElizaBETTY Kloss, but I think the mistakes she refers to are more like the problems they may have in Afterglow/this is me trying. Fights, but not the one that ended it all. Peace screams The Archer to me and with that anxiety. Would it be enough if I could never give you peace//who will stay? Also DWOHT, about her fears. ā€œIā€™d give you my sunshineā€ actually makes me feel like this is Karlieā€™s POV. Iā€™m having an epiphany, what if it is Karlieā€™s POV looking at the sunshine line. That would make sense about ā€œI see your brother as my brotherā€ from Karlieā€™s POV because Taylor actually has a brother! Maybe this song is Karlieā€™s POV, because she canā€™t leave Josh? So she can never give Taylor peace? I donā€™t know, could be either POV! Not related to Hoax though.
Conclusion:
I think Hoax is about Karlie choosing SB side, whether she sold Taylor out, didnā€™t tell her about that deal and knowing, or not stopping working with him AFTER the SB drama. I feel like, in Lover Taylor was still optimistic about their relationship. Lover, Cornelia street and Daylight being the biggest clues. She was going to name the album Daylight (literally a synonym for sunshine ā€œKarlieā€). She changed it to Lover, which makes me think Karlie = Lover. I think they did probably have fights problems, I mean even DWOHT in reputation etc and Afterglow in Lover. I think some songs of folklore are also about those fights (Exile, this is me trying, Betty and Peace), but I think Hoax is about Karlie betraying her and Taylor breaking it off. I feel like the 1 is one of the last songs written (maybe with Cardigan), where sheā€™s doing a little better? I feel like the break-up was quite recent, the SB drama happened in June 2019 I think?? Lover was already produced then, even if they may have broken it off at that time. Iā€™m the biggest Kaylor and this album hurts AF. But thereā€™s so many Kaylor references, I hope both of them get closure. I really thought theyā€™d make it, but I guess you never know... Kookies for the ones still reading. Reply me with your theories/additions. :)
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