#real life abusers and fascists arent pure evil either btw everyone is a complicated person and they can change if they want to

[pandoratheprocrasticreator]

"it's so refreshing when a villain is just evil instead of trying to redeem them" is the equivalent of "it's so refreshing when a story has a fantasy setting instead of sci-fi." a villain describes a variety of roles characters can take in a story. a villain who stays evil throughout the whole story is a different archetype than a villain who has some kind of redemption and they serve different purposes in the story.

making your villains have sympathetic traits or do sympathetic things isn't a writing choice that is inherently good or bad. it's has the potential to be well written or not depending on the execution. it's literally just a personal preference in what kind of story and villain you like and someone writing a trope you dont prefer doesnt automatically mean its objectively bad writing. so for the LOVE OF GOD can we please talk about something more interesting next time.

no by all means keep judging cartoon villains solely by if they get redeemed in the end. i know some of us like to talk about other stuff like characterization or entertainment value or nuance as something that makes a good villain. but i think the only thing that actually matters is if the villain ends up on good terms with the protagonist at the end. all the Good TM cartoons with Good TM creators make the villains die a Horrible Death for being Abusers or whatever. and all the Bad TM cartoons with Bad TM creators Forgive Fascists by not making them get publicly executed by the 14 year old protagonist in front of the 8 year old target demographic.

i mean im so glad that more cartoons nowadays are subverting the psyop to support fascists that a few queer artists and queer shows definitely invented in 2017. there are so many popular cartoons doing that. it's almost like there are more properties killing their villains now and in the past than there ever were of properties that didn't do this. and it's almost like whether the villain gets redeemed at the end is more about the context of the story and its themes leading up to a narratively sound decision.

but you know. a few queer shows made by trans ppl were popular and they didn't kill their fascists and even had the gall to make them nuanced while also looking into the harm they did. guess it's trendy to forgive your abusers now because like two cartoons said so. out of like 40 other similarly high profile works that just straight up hit their villains with a bus or smth. by all means. keep heaping praise onto that one show about how they "let their villain just be evil" instead of talking about anything more interesting. that's so subversive, everyone's doing it!