#raiden national team is actually op
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teecupangel · 1 month ago
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@saltyartofcroatia left this reply on the Desmond in Honkai Star Rail idea
Oh, cool we're talking about Hoyoverse games :D I started playing Genshin Impact this years new years and the second I learned about the specific criteria someone needs to 'check' to get a vision, my first thought was: 'How do I put Desmond in this situation?'
One of the reasons that they believe the Traveler could use any element is because they’re outsiders so, if this is a case of Desmond being the ultimate isekai protagonist, Desmond would be counted as an outsider by Teyvat.
Or, if you want a more dramatic entrance for our Desmond…
In the Archon story of Inazuma, part of the possible consequence of losing one’s Vision is forgetting one’s ambition or drive (which supposedly was the reason one was granted a Vision in the first place) and sometimes they even lose memories related to their ambition or drive.
In this case, Desmond would wake up somewhere in Inazuma and he has no idea why he’s there. His last memories are dying to save the world.
As he’s trying to get his bearing, Yae Miko would appear before him because there was a peculiar scent in the air.
Desmond has no recollection but Yae Miko told him that he was employed in the Grand Narukami Shrine as sort of on hand fixer and muscle. She was actually looking for him because he went missing last night, seven days since his Vision was taken by the orders of the Raiden Shogun.
As far as Yae Miko and the rest of the shrine were concerned, Desmond is a member of the shrine.
But Yae Miko does admit to him that he smell different. He has a similar scent to the Traveler who she hasn’t made contact yet but had been keeping an eye on.
Desmond is left trying to figure what the hell is happening and people of the shrine thinks he lost his memories and try to help him. At the same time, the rest of the canon story continue in the background.
(Maybe Desmond decides to join as a third party Assassin who attacks the Shogun’s army once he heard about what was happening, maybe Yae Miko managed to keep him isolated with teaching him about Teyvat and everyhing else long enough for the Traveler to finish the storyline, up to you)
By the end of it, the Visions are returned to everyone and Desmond gets his but…
His Vision returned cracked. There was no symbol of what element he had, just… nothing.
They managed to get an audience with Raiden who told him that she doesn’t know what happened to his Vision. His Vision was kept at the same place as every other Vision and his was the only one that was damaged.
When she saw Desmond, she also instinctively felt that he was an outsider. She doesn’t know if it’s because Desmond was an orphan with unknown parents (and due to how he looks, many believe he’s from another nation) or if Desmond’s belief was right and he came from another world.
Either way, it seems to Desmond that even the archon does not have the answers he seek.
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Not gonna lie, my favorite is Sumeru and I would love to put Desmond in Sumeru just to make him stare at Alhaitham, internally debating to himself if Alhaitham reminds him of Altaïr or Haytham or if he’s just seeing something that wasn’t necessarily there because of Alhaitham’s name which could still happen if the plot is that Desmond leaves Inazuma for Sumeru to check if that nation would have any idea why he’s there and if he truly came from another world.
Although my suggestion that Desmond’s element should be Dendro is definitely not because my main team is Hyperbloom team. Nope. Definitely not.
My suggestion for Desmond to be Dendro is related to him amplifying his ancestors’ Elements.
Altaïr - Electro
Ezio - Pyro
Ratonhnhaké:ton - Hydro
And this brings me to my next idea for this one.
Since we are obligated to throw Desmond a bone in the form of OP powers in exchange for making him our favorite isekai protagonist chewtoy, the idea would be that he learned his Vision is Dendro but he’s able to wield a secondary element.
(Gameplay-wise, this would be similar to him having a Dendro infused normal attack, his secondary element being trigger via his skill and being able to change his secondary element via his burst)
His skill would appear similar to, I cannot think of a Hoyo equivalent at the moment sorry, Desmond summons a Phantom ala Wuthering Waves’ Calcharo that appears to look like his ancestor, wrapped in their element and delivering an AOE strike that infuses a certain area with their element at the same time they hit an enemy with their actual strike. (this is also a reference to Altaïr’s Assassin Ghosts in AC Revelations)
I gave Ezio Pyro because the burning of Cappadocia. Altaïr gets Electro because Electro feels like the fastest element thanks to Clorinde. And Ratonhnhaké:ton gets Hydro because it’s still the strongest DPS element at the moment XD
(For course, we'll get a similar setup if we make Desmond have Anemo but that would mean Desmond would have to remember to use his skill first before his normal attack lollol)
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ohlookanothergenshinblog · 3 years ago
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I just tried out the raiden national team in spiral abyss
and i'm shocked
everyone apart from raiden has pretty low levelled artifacts and weapons and all of them are at lvl 60-70???
and i just beat floor 9 without even having to think about it??? what??
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bluexiao · 3 years ago
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#Character Reviews (2.5 Reruns)
—as much as I want to include Yae, I can’t really say anything other than the fact she seems to be a main dps
—REMINDER: again, this is in terms of practicality, but i don’t really have a definite choice between raiden and kokomi because it depends on who YOU need.
—also these are MY opinions (and also my friend who uses kokomi a lot) but if they stand corrected, i’ll be editing them if necessary
—do take note that i am a raiden main on my main account but my raiden is c2 so if you see videos here, my raiden will naturally have high damage
why RAIDEN?
(let’s first go to who i really have and built)
#pros
she is quite flexible in a team; dps or sub dps. i personally use her as both, especially with national team (w/ xingqiu, xiangling, bennett)
she’s hella strong. just build her right and you’re good to go.
a really good one-shotter. it’s so satisfying most of the time hahaha
ER polearms are easy to obtain
electro, neverminding the bad reactions, is very flexible especially against hydro, pyro, and cryo
really good in co-op
she keeps your team’s ult (burst) up ALL the time. this is why i use her with the national team :)))
are you a eula main? i swear, get Raiden. Eula’s burst will be up real quick. (that’s a video i took with my friend’s account and nope i’m not used to using eula but wow the freeze comp with kokomi and ganyu plus raiden…)
#cons
actually, number 1 con is that you will not be able to use her against the new raiden boss. that’s going to be a tough fight, buddy.
another con is that she only has very few polearms that fits her, whereas she’s on the recommended build, that is. (but like i said, er polearms are easy to obtain)
she can only be built to the max when you unlocked inazuma. if you’re a new or mid-game player, do remember this.
electro has bad reactions…
#weapons
(f2p weapons are with *) (also, they’re kinda arranged from best to least)
Engulfing Lightning, R5 The Catch, Skyward Spine, *Prototype Starglitter, Favonius Lance (yes, all ER weapons)
Others with good main stats: Staff of Homa, Primordial Jade-Winged Spear, *Blackcliff Pole, Deathmatch, White Tassel (basically all crit weaps)
Others with (kind of) good passives: Calamity Queller, Dragonsbane, Halberd
#tips
personally, building her as ER sub dps is the best option. you need not to focus a lot on her crit, unless you’ve got your er at the very least at 200%, however having 1:2 crit ratio is a must for her if you want higher damage
i think i’ve done this to a couple videos i’ll be linking here, but while doing her burst, i do 3 normal attacks and then a charged attack afterwards. this attack combination is probably the best one for her
if you use Engulfing Lighting with her, having her ER as high as possible is REALLY a priority, especially with the passive of the weapon.
her best artifact set is 4pc Emblem of Severed Fate. I think you can do 2pc Emblem+2pc Noblesse for the meantime or as placeholder
why KOKOMI?
#pros
REALLY REALLY good healing. idk what others say like during her banner that she sucks at healing, i beg to differ. you’re NOT just building her right.
just slap on HP% artifacts and you’re pretty much okay already
she’s way easier to build and get artifacts on (compared to raiden)
really good with co-ops as well
with the incoming enemies (and current ones), she will be very useful, trust me
there’s no need for a shielder, especially since her heals are quite a big number per tick of the jellyfish (her skill)
her animations are really cute and she has one of the best character designs
#cons
she is from inazuma and you can’t really level her above 40 if you haven’t opened inazuma yet (pretty much like raiden’s situation, but in this case, i do admit kokomi is much easier to build since Maiden artifacts are available in Mond)
she has -100% crit rate… well honestly it’s not even a con because if you want to build her as healer, she won’t even need a crit (unless you wanna be a boss and make her your main dps… no judgement here)
her hydro application is not that too big of an AoE and constant, because her Skill CD is quite long (it can be solved with Sacrificial Fragments hmm), but it’s better than most hydro characters (although you can always have Xingqiu or another hydro in the team IF you need the reactions)
might not be the best healer out there, but she does work well with pyro and cryo mains with melt and freeze reactions
hu tao and kokomi are not really much of a good team… unless you time koko’s skill right, along with hutao’s burst (who knows maybe you can fight the dogs with hutao without worrying about corrosion)
#weapons
(f2p weapons are with *) (also, they’re kinda arranged from best to least)
Everlasting Moonglow, *Prototype Amber
others: Sacrificial Fragments, Wind and Song, Favonius Codex, Hakushin Ring, *Mappa Mare (these are not the ideal weapons to her, but they’re better than those unmentioned, nevertheless, her best weapon, f2p wise, is prototype amber)
#tips
focus on her HP and ER. most of your damage will come from your burst, and guess what it does heal everyone too, so yes you have to make your burst as constant as possible
her best artifact set is the 4pc Ocean-Hued Clam. you can give her Maiden+ToM or Ocean-Hued+ToM as well, from what I know of. however, having the 4pc Ocean-Hued Clam would give you more damage long-term wise.
I love using her with Ganyu’s Burst like seriously it’s so satisfying to have everything get frozen while you’re healing up everyone
actually, having her with Bennett is really good, especially when you really need healers in the team. just pop her skill and benny’s burst and boom Melt (it’s gonna be so satisfying i swear)
VIDEOS (just for fun:))
do take note that my (and my friend’s) artifacts are NOT perfect, so i can’t really show the maximum damage for both of them
this is a video that i took during the alchemy event please skip to 1:10 to skip the buffs i used (don’t judge me for not remembering the title of the event)
here is another video with ei + kokomi too (with my friend’s account! ily bestie) — i’m basically just showing kokomi’s damage and healing capacity with the build that she has)
this is the full video of the raiden vid above (and yes i buff myself up with food while fighting azhdaha what’s wrong with that ksksks)
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