#promestein

[quariumarts]

Promestein

Comm for @OldManHan1

[promesteinslab]

Promestein's lab is open! Her two helpers are here as well.

[nycteru]

Operation Promestein is a go!

i know its a different promestein who said that but I cant think of anything else

[snowboyclarkov]

Random Death Battle Poll - 1

Gwyn Reynolds is an absurdly intelligent trap of a boy who made himself the unofficial student of Dante Koryu... by stalking him and randomly turning up in the Victories building... after becoming interested in him and his blading when watching Dante and Delta battle Arthur. He is said to be capable of solving any math problem that exists, and up to his time as a blader had never been wrong in any of his calculations or predictions. Gwyn has always willingly holed himself up on his own, doing the same thing over and over. Despite attempts from his mum to get him to find a friend, he could never connect with anyone. His intellectual pursuits were more important. To Gwyn, the world is run on equations and formulae. They are how he judges everything and if something can't be proven by them, then they are doomed to fail. To every problem, there is always a solution.

As time went on, Gwyn was forced to look at his own emotional constitution and evolved in this regard from staunch antagonist and stubborn adversary who just wanted the opposite half to leave immediately to trusted ally near the end.

However, Dante successfully defying Gwyn's predictions started something off. A combination of the hit to his self-pride, an ever growing obsession with Dante, and the disconnect between Gwyn's conscious self and his subconscious self began to slowly drive Gwyn mental. It reached boiling point when he actively tried to reset everything and given the basis of Genesis and the tier Burst is in for a power sense, considering it to mean resetting the universe itself would not be far fetched at all. Beyblade is absurd enough to pull that sort of thing. It didn't help that Gwyn has very low emotional intelligence, and was desperate to find the answer as to why he couldn't get Dante off his mind (and why Dante favoured Delta).

Thankfully, thanks to Genesis and Dante both, Gwyn was able to make a mental recovery and make Dante his friend in a healthy manner all while discovering the meaning behind bonds to put an end to the perpetual squabble inside his heart between the conscious and subconscious. Basically, a loner and a yandere were fighting inside Gwyn's heart and it was slowly destroying him.

Gwyn also happens to be incredibly manipulative and willing to lead many people down a path to certain doom by the use of information. He lead Dante on prior to his obsession forming into a scenario where he could kill Dragon (shattering a bey is basically murder), as Gwyn also became interested in emulating Arthur who had murdered the previous iteration of Dragon with Apocalypse. Then he decided to use Arthur as a puppet for the sole purpose of getting closer to Dante - the only person in the entire world this genius cares about. To hell with (almost) all the rest. Regardless, he's not a bad person in the end, though he can be misinterpreted as one. Despite his name, looks and voice, Gwyn isn't a girl. Maybe he ought to be. There's 'trap' and then there's Gwyn Reynolds.

This battle can be anything. It doesn't have to be a physical fight, maybe a contest of manipulation involving third parties with the intent of forcing the opponent to submit first.

[westolefirefromthegods]

What do you think of that younger counterpart of you? And if you could talk to them, what advice would you give them?

[tea-patriarch]

「 ✦ Promestein has insomnia ✦ 」

[promesteinslab]

Ooc: And I'm here if anyone wants Paradox Promestein.

Hello promistien so you like science

Yes.

I am retired though. I believe there is another me somewhere.

Right now I’m spending my days with my wife and occasionally watching a struggling universe like a soap opera.

I’ll answer questions about that provided there are no Part 3 Spoilers. Still waiting for the team to get sufficiently far with that translation. Me and the wife are in anticipation.

[notlukathefakehero]

Another question for the wrong Promestein. @promesteinslab

[enigmaincrimson-personal]

Off the top of my head...

Getting Elena to stick around the Pocket Castle and join the party would be a challenge... since she's not invested in the goings on in the same way they are.

She's not fooled by Black Alice's disguise, like everything else she notices. She feels like pointing that out is on the rude side unless there's a good reason.

While they could get along in theory, Elena tends to avoid Promestein in most cases. However, it can just be as easy to develop into a rivalry as Prommy really wanting to figure her out like some big puzzle.

If she were to join in as a special vendor, her concoctions have special properies. Like... ignoring racial immunities or having consistent effects.

For example, healing potions always heal and not harm... making working with undead party members far less complicated. On the other end, poisoning an enemy will always poison... even if they'd normally be immune or healed by it.

Race changes can also be executed on the fly, even to key party members. Although to counteract that, it does affect relations with that party member and Elena would refuse to make anything with permanent effects.

As a party member herself, what you might get depends on factors like her current form, situation, and relationship score. High enough, and she'll assist and maybe provide a miracle... low enough, and she'll leave or, worse, attack the party herself.

Otherwise, she might randomly appear as a vendor in various places, selling rare items and her concoctions... if not delivering packags.

[enigmaincrimson]

Thinking on it, if Promestein were to find out Elena exists... I'd suppose she might find her to be something of an infuriating curiosity.

Like... it's the closest might get to finding answers she wants, but... it's like trying to understand a black box that is constantly slipping out of your fingers.

Admittedly, the tone between the first game and Paradox would come off as rather different.

[darius-the-fox]

Darius is interested in race change.

It seems Darius is looking for a teacher or a mentor he can learn from.

[promesteinslab]

Artemis and Apollo decided to argue. They are looking like robots like Hild. So human and so mechanical at the same time.

[ancientsofvictory]

Any opinions on promestein (I think I spelt her name right)

It seems that Promestein is an incredible scientist, no matter what world she's from.

[darkbutterflyplayground]

Promestein is super hidden buxom kind of wow

Lol

[wyvernseeker]

Seeing this got me thinking:

This is likely saying "Jetstream Sam should have been the final boss of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance." It's something that seems good at first thought but wouldn't actually work in practice.

Quick warning, Monster Girl Quest is the subject I will be talking about, and while no naughty images will be displayed, it's still going to be about an 18+ series, for those of whom are squeamish about that sort of thing.

Alike with Jetstream Sam for MGRR, Black Alice wouldn't have worked as the final boss of the original Monster Girl Quest, no matter how charming she may be to some or how people hate the idea of Ilias foreseeing her and Promestein's betrayl oncimong. They work as one of the last enemies you fight in their respective games, but it would be to their stories detriment if they were the end-all, be-all opponent (MGQ Paradox being a different beast altogether). Since this is about MGQ, let's continue from there.

Black Alice, aka Alipheese Fateburn VIII, is established in-story as the most depraved and evil of the Monster Lords, necessitating the legendary hero Heinrich Hein to stop her tyranny. However, Ilias, seeing her as necessary for her ultimate plan, decides to save her life (likely after Heinrich defeated her). She's established as someone who's power-hungry, sadistic, controlling and manipulative, having recruited several monsters under her banner throughout main protagonist Luka's journey. However, it's evident that while she is powerful, she's merely a co-dragon of Ilias' and that in a straight up fight against her,Black Alice wouldn't come out the victor, hence her need of Promestein using the Six Ancestor's Great Seal to weaken Ilias and then devour her (so as to make use of the White Rabbit drug she's taken in order to become the ultimate being).

Ilias, on the other hand, makes sense as the final boss. Unlike Black Alice, she is actually the cause of the system that prevents coexistence between humans and monsters. Several sorrows and tragedies such as the Queen Harpy being forced to abduct men to prevent her race from going extinct, the slaughter of Remina, the beliefs that led to the foundation of Ilias Kreuz, all of these stem from what Ilias enforces upon humans with the ultimate goal of bringing monsters to extinction. Even things she's had no direct hand insuch as the ultimately senseless sacrifice of Alice's mother Alipheese the XV in the name of coexistence is due to Ilias repeatedly resetting progress and promoting strife and conflict.

As for her planning for Promestein and Black Alice's betrayals, it would be unquestionably stupid to not do so. Even before her flashback explaining how and why she became the way she is, Promestein's meeting with her group the Seekers of Truth has her saying that even a god would have to face their fangs. Speaking of said flashback, that only further justifies why Ilias would need to keep her back guarded until the time was right, as to a scientist like Promestein, having your life's work and research repeatedly denounced and you branded as a heretic would be borderline unforgivable. Plus, as we see with Promestein, while unquestionably brilliant as well, she still isn't infallible, as seen with her complete surprise at Luka being able to use Serene Mind to dodge her attacks even though she had placed a seal on the four elements (forgetting that Granberia can also use the technique despite not having any elemental spirits, even weak ones) As for Black Alice, the fact that she's willing to work with someone who's made it clear in her dialogue that she wants the extermination of monsters and the fact that she is willing to betray the monsters she once ruled over by allying herself with the one trying to commit genocide on them in order to try and rule the world for once makes her no more trustable.

As for the battle you have against Black Alice, it's not as grandiose as Ilias', despite having more phases. Yes, Black Alice can use all four artificial elemental spirits and is even capable of canceling out Luka's should he try to have more than one summoned, but these don't truly imbue her attacks with the elements like we see with Luka, as well as the fact she only uses them in her final phase (and one at a time at that) after she loses control of her powers and becomes a mass of tentacles and flesh (thanks, Setouchi). Not to mention, all three of her phases have only Luka and Alice fight her. Speaking of her final form, the one who will often be attacking more in that battle won't be Luka, but Alice herself, and it's not uncommon to see Alice land the killing blow on her in the battle.

In contrast, Ilias' second and final phase has the Four Heavenly Knights as well as Micaela join in to help weaken the mad goddess, followed by Luka and Alice using a wind, earth, water, fire, holly and darkness-infused Quadruple Giga to finally put an end to Ilias.

[seekeroftruthpromestein]

Promestein, what do you fear the most?

People taking my words out of context and using them to justify their ignorant beliefs.