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purpleender29 · 3 days ago
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I wish i was kidding when i said this section took 4 hours
Still love the game a lot
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deltastra · 4 days ago
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My Thoughts on Project Eden's Garden Chapter 1
Back in 2022, I was excited for the release of Project Eden's Garden prologue. And it didn't disappoint. Sadly I was too lazy to make a post at the time, haha. So here's a list of how much I liked the characters back when the prologue released:
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^ For the record, just because I "dislike" the character, doesn't mean they're badly written. It's just a personal preference and it didn't change the way I viewed the story whatsoever. A disliked or hated character doesn't mean a bad character.
Anyway, 2 years later, chapter 1 has finally been released. It took me a few days but I finally finished it and I must say, I absolute loved it.
This post will be about my overall thoughts on what transpired in the chapter, my thoughts on the characters, and the story as a whole.
SUPER LONG POST INCOMING
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SPOILERS FOR CHAPTER 1 BELOW
We start off with a reminder of how much Damon fumbled 2 years ago lol. To be honest, I LOVED Damon for that rant at the end of the prologue. Was he mean? Yes. But it was so refreshing to see an asshole protag. I look forward to see how he develops.
After we see his room and check our surroundings. We were told by Cassidy to meet everyone in the dining hall. On our way there we can talk to Diana and I swear I love the conversations those two have. It's so much fun seeing someone has cheerful and kind as Diana deal with someone who is cold and logical as Damon.
Eventually we learn about the pharmacy and were even given a new update in our tozu tablets where we can learn more about eachother. Eva immediately told us to stop looking at them because it exposes our weaknesses and that's what Tozu was planning. I believed her right away because my impression of her during the prologue was that she'd be our 'Kirigiri', basically the cool-headed smart partner. I would've trusted her.
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NOPE. TURNS OUT, THE ULTIMATE LIAR LIED ABOUT HER TALENT.
This was when I started seeing Eva for more than a 'Kirigiri' character. There was nothing wrong about her in the prologue, but she never clicked with me back then because everything about her felt 'on the nose'. I mean come on, "Ultimate Liar"???? That sounds so strange, but I liked the game so I didn't mind too much. With the reveal that she was actually a mathlete, I began opening up to her character more.
Like I genuinely started feeling for her character when everyone started making fun of her. You could feel the personality she built in the prologue shatter. And the more we learnt about her and why she lied about her talent, the more I began liking her and even relating to her a bit.
Anyway, we got freetime events and my first instinct was to run to Diana. I love her conversations with Damon and think they bounce off eachother well, even better than with Eva. I was excited to see more of that. And I'm glad I did.
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I love how her free time event is just her teaching Damon to not be a jerk. Like, "Don't glare" for example. She also gives him praise where praise is due, such as him reaching out to her.
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She is so good at talking to him that it's kind of adorable. I was interested in seeing if she can actually help Damon open up but that would also mean she would be most likely to die and I really didn't want that to happen so soon. Either way, she will definitely be my focus for FTE.
I wanted to talk to Grace and know more about her but it wasn't letting me because she locked herself in her room.
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So I went to Eva instead. She was alone downstairs avoiding everyone and talking to her made me so sad. I understood her talent more and why she hid it.
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Afterward we went for our private one-on-one with Tozu, forgot to mention but I find Damon to be very smart but also very stupid. Smart that he found a way to contact Tozu and discuss the blackmail he got of Wolfgang, but dumb in a sense that he is already under suspicion by everyone. If they found out he did this, everyone would suspect him more.
I love Tozu as a host and "mascot". He is so eccentric but also pretty scary when he needs to be. Like when he said "Go on. Leave first." at the end of their conversation. But to be honest, I felt as though this conversation was kind of useless...
Afterward we see that Grace and Wofgang are living together now because they switched roomies. Damon was too scared to sleep alone so he went to Kai's dorm. I was excited because I didn't really like Kai in the prologue, this was a chance to see him in a full chapter which can properly showcase his character to me. After that scene, I started liking Kai a little more but I was also suspicious of him because since Damon came late, Kai could tell the others and it would be terrible. Kai seems to have a habit of throwing Damon under the bus lol.
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(Took me a while to combine those two screenshots to get the full image lol)
Afterwards, there was a cute scene with everyone doing laundry and it was nice seeing a more relaxed atmosphere. Damon and Kai chilling together, Ingrid singing (she has such a nice voice omg), and Grace yelling at Wolfgang because he doesn't know how to use a washing machine. Overall, a very wholesome scene.
We meet Eva and learn she has Desmond's blackmail. At first, I fully trusted her and why she told Damon. Desmond is a marksman, he has weapons. Meeting him personally to tell him something private abt him that he doesn't want people to know seems scary. Hence why I was so against Wolfgang's idea.
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Eva's conversation with Damon was one of my favourite scenes in the game. It felt nice she noticed Damon's fruitless effort during the trial and how no one thanked him. She noticed that they are the only two against Wolfgang. As they talked, I thought about how I don't know if I could enjoy this scene as much as I do right now if Eva kept her "Ultimate Liar" persona. At this point, I was an Eva fan 100%. I might talk about her more one day in a post, but we'll see.
I felt like Damon finally made a friend. Well, the closest thing to one in a killing game at least. Eva had all the qualities that Damon could work with. A decent amount of trust and no naivety. They both are constantly on-guard.
Her reasoning to why she chose to be a 'Liar' was kind of reasonable, I was surprised. On paper, it sounds ridiculous to call yourself that in a killing game. But when taking Eva's whole character into perspective, everything falls into place perfectly. As Damon puts it, everything she did felt self-destructive. Little did I know how true this will be later.
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When we make it to the dining hall, Wolfgang questions us on why we were late. Damon counters him. I like to believe Damon's open-willingness to argue with Wolfgang in front of everyone now is mostly due to learning more about Eva and having a sense of camaraderie with her. He doesn't feel alone for once, in terms of thinking.
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Cassidy wants to hold a gaming tournament. It's sweet and I started opening up to her character cause of it. Wolfgang is unsure of attending and Diana said she would be "busy". I was scared. Why would Diana be busy and HOW could she be busy. She's been acting strange. It was making me think that she will die or be the first killer. The way she acted around Damon was a bit too suspicious. I wanted to do her freetime event again but she wasn't available, which made me more worried.
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I did Eva's instead to learn more about her, I'll save my thoughts about it for another time. But the general reaction I had was "Yup. Someone tell 2022 me that he will become an Eva fan"
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Other than Diana, I really wanted to know more about Desmond. So, I did his FTE next! He's lowkey a chill guy. I really hope he'll be our "bro" character but I feel like the signs are leaning towards Kai fulfilling that role. Unlike Wolfgang, Desmond's kindness doesn't feel calculated to me. He's just casual about everything. I liked how he claimed that Damon and him are similar and as to why he believes so, he even offered to debate with Damon. Overall, a neat conversation. I love Desmond in a sense that, he's just pleasant to be around. I hope to see more of his character shine in future chapters.
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We meet Diana again and she seems to be back to normal, but the sinister music kicks in when she asks how we are. I was VERYYY concerned. I assumed someone had severe blackmail on her and thought she murdered someone. Before it felt sweet when she wanted to know more about Damon and Eva, but in this scenario, it was very suspicious. Tozu even said, "Tonight could be the night which changes your life forever." which implies that he saw someone get murdered.
After a funny scene with Damon and Kai sharing a bed. We wake up and head to the gaming tournament!
At the time, I was so happy to see Eva choosing to go to the tournament and even bonding with Cassidy over a niche game. I thought Eva no longer had to hide under a false talent in order to feel powerful. She could be herself. Man...
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She goes on explaining that she used to eat lunch in the bathrooms which made me feel for her even more. Part of me disliked Damon for making a joke at her expense when she was being vulnerable, but I can't help but think that it is also his way of showing that he does not pity her and treats her like an equal (somewhat). Hell, Eva even laughed at the joke.
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The tournament begins and I love how seriously Damon was taking it. I actually believe he was having fun. I love Damon because while he may be an ass, when he's focused on something, he gives it his all. This includes a silly gaming tournament too.
Then a blackout occured and I KNOW someone's getting killed. So time to lock in. And man...let's just say I am GLAD I never got spoiled because...
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MY JAW DROPPED.
A million thoughts flowed through my brain. Was this a fake-out? Was this death merely shock factor? He was meant to be the rival and main obstacle to Damon and Eva, HOW?
I was looking forward to seeing trials with Damon and Wolfgang going head-to-head.
I was both shocked and worried about where the writing will go. Wolfgang had so much potential in the story.
But I also thought "let them cook". With the main guy who encouraged everyone that no one would resort to violence was killed. Ultimately, his death disproved everything he believed in. His death WILL kickstart the killing game for sure.
My prediction was that it was Diana who killed him.
I really hoped it wasn't Diana but she was too suspicious.
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As we investigated, we had to convince Grace to let us in Wolfgang's room. Honestly this was when I started to actually dislike Grace because why on earth did she think this was a good idea. I guess she had a connection to Wolfgang, but it was still irritating how much she hindered the investigation. This situation did let me see more of Eloise and man, she can be pretty scary. I heard her FTE is no different, I should look it up sometime.
Then, we had around 20 minutes remaining for the investigation, so we had to rush. Even though there was no time limit for the player, I could still feel the tension. I desperately wanted to know Diana's testimony. She feels completely different, like all the light in her eyes is gone and for good reason. Just like the others, she looked up to Wolfgang and believed no one would kill eachother. I love how you can feel the stakes rising. This isn't like the prologue. Your life is on the line and there is no time to grieve. And with Damon and Eva leading the investigation, two people who struggle with emotions and were outcasted by Wolfgang, it gets harder.
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This scene is kind of why I like Diana, some may find this type of behaviour annoying and naive, but to me it showcases how much she's willing to believe in people as opposed to Damon. It hurts that Diana is STILL trying to see the good in people. But without Wolfgang, no one wants to play nice or believe in eachother anymore. Hence Grace's declaration of anger towards the killer enjoying their death penalty and Mark's agreement. Although I was also thinking how much this scene would hurt if Diana was the killer.
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You know it's funny. Back when I was younger and a huge DGR fan, i would watch the class trials and think, wow the MC and partner carries these. Damon kind of reflects that. He believes in his own talent THAT much and he has seen how the students participate in the trials. Damon isn't necessarily right about how he is the only one who can carry this trial, but he is right that without him, its very hard to believe that the class can solve the murder of Wolfgang.
I love Damon's internal monolgues because it shows the type of person he is. He can be bitter and arrogant, but he is not heartless.
Either way, the trial begins and Grace is IMMEDIATELY questioned by Eloise for good reason.
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I liked Grace in the prologue because she's a very outspoken person who takes no nonsense. But throughout this trial, I was getting irritated with her attitude. I hope her character actually goes somewhere in later chapters because if it stays like this, I doubt I will like her as much as I did in the prologue.
We eventually reach the part where Cassidy asked the person with Wolfgang's blackmail to speak up and explain themselves if they're innocent and DAMON WAS SWEATING BULLETS. However, Eva had our backs and explained why that information would not be useful. I can see why Damon stayed silent, if someone like him spoke up, who knows how everyone will react. ESPECIALLY Grace.
Also an interesting thing I've noticed is that everyone seems to be genuinely helping and contributing to the class trial. No one is just needlessly making quips. Cassidy makes jokes time to time, but she still helps.
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Then when the suspicion hit Diana, I WAS SCARED. I was genuinely believing that she was the one who killed Wolfgang. But...how? She doesn't seem like someone who can kill and I doubt the writers would make her suddenly evil. So I assumed she killed out of self-defence.
What I loved a lot as a Damon and Diana fan was how Damon was starting to feel sympathy towards Diana. DAMON of all people. I wish I remembered how to use Pathos bullets so I could see Damon speak from a more emotional perspective, it feels more fitting for his development in my opinion.
We learn that the reason why she was crying with guilt was not because she killed Wolfgang, it was because she watched him die and couldn't do anything.
I'm skimming through the events of the trial as this post is getting long.
With Diana's suspicion cleared, I had no idea who would kill Wolfgang at this point. I started assuming Wenona did it or maybe Ulysses. However, looking back at it, it seems Eva still suspected Diana. I was too blind to see why would she even after Damon cleared it up.
As the trial progressed and we learn that the suspect could be anyone in the tournament. I was trying to hard to think who it could possibly be. Everyone had the realistic reaction of freaking out and yelling their alibis. I thought so hard. Who could it be? Who's position can Damon not remember? And then it hit, and I still doubted myself...
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Eva. Of course, she started defending herself. As she started claiming that Damon was saying nonsense and that he's the killer, I could feel the friendship between these two die. I wonder if there was truly any sense of friendship between them to begin with. I believe that Damon genuinely thought there was whether he would admit it or not.
I was worried that just like with Wolfgang, Eva being the killer so early seems like wasted potential. But no, its perfect. Because of her character throughout the chapter and what we learn about her. I'll save it for a future post. I want to talk about Eva more.
As Eva claimed that she only pretended to be friends with Damon, his internal monologue was heartbreaking. Eva's words SHOULDN'T matter to him. He's close to solving the murder. But sadly, they do affect him. He judged others for being too trusting, while he blindly followed Eva's words.
As Damon gave his speech about how he did respect Wolfgang and how he doesn't want to see bloodshed, Kai vouched for him which I LOVE. It shot Kai up on my list cause of that. I was afraid he would be the guy to always point fingers at Damon, but thankfully it wasn't the case.
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Eva broke down and we see her true nature. And to no one's surprise, all of this could've been avoided if people didn't give her too much shit for being a mathlete. Of course it isn't that simple since Eva had issues before that. But I genuinely believe that Wolfgang shouldn't have put too much suspicion on Eva and Damon and make them outcasts, it came back to bite him as Eva was obsessed with proving herself.
Seeing her cry after her defeat was hard to watch. The character I thought would be the "Kirigiri" of this game is now standing here, sobbing, and about to be executed.
Her rant about Wolfgang and how they blindly followed him is something I somewhat agree with.
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I agree with Diana as well and it solidied my love for Eva and Diana's character. Diana genuinely tried to keep her part of the group. SHE TRIED. Wolfgang was okay with just throwing them to the side. That's where I think Diana is better than Wolfgang. But Eva was too wrapped up in her hatred that she couldn't see that someone was genuinely helping her. A mindset that is understandable for someone who has been bullied and outcasted for all their life. This was out of Diana's control.
But Eva isn't wrong either. Could she really trust Diana's intentions? No, not when Diana would also believe Wolfgang's word, the same word of the man who treats her like an outcast.
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We learn about the traitor's perk. And I know people say Tozu threatened her to take it, but I feel like saying that she was treatened and thats why she killed Wolfgang kind of goes against all that we were shown? We didn't properly learn of the traitor's perk and its consequences until AFTER her rant about everyone in the class and her life. The traitor perk's consequences seemed more of an after-thought to her. Eva is very complex and I love that.
As she pointed out their hypocrisy, Grace yelled at Tozu to get on with the execution. I know she's upset and I understand that. But I would be lying if I said she didn't fall down my list immensely after saying that. Tozu announces the execution and Eva cries. Her execution was..intense. I wanna go into it deeper one day but to keep it short for now, I love how the execution wasn't just themed after her talent. The execution felt like an insult towards her story as a whole. She will always be a mathlete. Now with both Wolfgang and Eva dead, the killing games will finally begin. There is no one to guide them. Unless..
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I know this scene is cringe to some people, but this made me love Diana and feel confident regarding what they'll do with her character going forward. She will follow Wolfgang's footsteps, and who knows, maybe have a more 'healthy' version of leadership than Wolfgang's approach. She genuinely believes in everyone, even Eva. I love that. I feel like her character losing hope as the game progresses seems off. This was a nice speech of hers but she should've picked a better time. Because unfortunately, no one took her speech seriously.
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Except for one.
At this point, it seems obvious that Diana act as Damon's foil for the upcoming trials. Damon, who relies on logic. Diana, who relies on emotion. I'm cautiously optimistic because I thought it would be Wolfgang when I finished the prologue but I was dead wrong. I cannot wait to see how both of these characters develop their rivalry throughout the trials.
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And thats a wrap! This post took me like 3 weeks to write cuz I've been busy lol.
This chapter was so good and I was at the edge of my seat! I'm so happy I never got spoiled!
It's amazing how in just one chapter, Eva became my absolute favourite. It feels like just yesterday I was sold on everyone's character in the prologue except for her. I thought she'd be the know-it-all, cool-headed partner. But the reveal of her true talent was a nice surprise! And her whole character was well-written and complex.
With how well the motive for murder was written in this chapter, I really hope the later chapters don't get too crazy. Like no 'despair disease' type of motive please. I hope the kills don't get too unrealistic as well, keeping them grounded helps maintain the atmosphere for this story in my opinion. As for the executions, I'd be amazed if they centered around the characters' journey instead of just their talent, like with Eva for example. It played on her insecurities.
Finally, it seems the main theme for this chapter was 'hypocrisy' as the title of the chapter suggests.
Damon, who thought everyone was naive for trusting eachother and especially Wolfgang, blindly trusted Eva.
Wolfgang, who believed no one would kill and that everyone should stick together, outcasted Damon and Eva and urged everyone to keep an eye on them just because of some rude remarks they made.
Eva, who claims no one cared for her and hates her, screwed over Damon and Diana who did care about her and had multiple opportunties to befriend people like Cassidy in the gaming tournament.
I'm sure theres more that I'm missing but this is all I got for now. Here is my updated tier list after Chapter 1:
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Overall, fantastic chapter. I'm so excited for the next!!! Keep cooking Eden's Garden team! You're all doing great!!!! anyway sorry for the long yap session
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northlight14 · 11 days ago
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Spoilers for Project Edens Garden Chapter 1 Victim!!!! I mean it, don’t read this if you haven’t gotten up to that point in game yet!!!
So….i just got to the death last night….oh my god. Bruh I had a whole list dedicated to my predictions of when certain characters were gonna die. I was convinced Wolfgang wasn’t gonna survive but I didn’t think it would be this early!! What the hell?!?! My autistic ass is usually so good at predicting stuff when it comes to danganronpa because of pattern recognition. And because of that I was like “oh yeah Wolfgang is safe until at least the second last chapter” and then just ignored all the signs that he wasn’t in fact safe!!!😭😭 genuinely sending all my love and admiration to the writers because I haven’t been this thrown off by a game (or any piece of media) in so long. Been thinking non stop about it because all the signs were there. The fact that the first victim always has some mystery surrounding them and who has more mystery than Wolfgang? The fact so much attention has been on him. The fact that the title of the fucking chapter links to so many Bible quotes that can relate to him!! (I fucking pointed that out too but I was so sure of his plot armour I just shrugged it off like an idiot🤦😭) And then the fact that since Damon was the one who had his blackmail and specifically didn’t show him it and combine that with the sticky note he left for Tozu which I guarantee is gonna be used against him when I get to trial, and it’s the perfect set up to pin it on Damon!
I’m playing it with my partner tho so I’m not gonna get to the investigation and trial for a couple weeks. So in the meantime I guess I’m just gonna be sat here with my tinfoil hat trying to figure out who the real antagonist is since Wolfgang was the perfect fake out (like fr everything about his character was so well written. He was honestly terrifying in a way no other Dangan antagonist has been before. And the reactions to his death? Fuck I love the writing of this game so much😭😭)
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But I don't think I could stand to be
Where you don't see me...
🎵: Francis Forever
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xelfless · 13 days ago
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i could never become you
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okthatsgreat · 13 days ago
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remembering the good parts
a little timelapse under the cut :]
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agoist · 14 days ago
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P:eg spoilers
Oh my fucking god. Thats why the person soing the playthrough did eva for all the fte. Shes been in the basement the whole fucking time. She was plabning thus. The whole time. Holy dhit
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lxrd-ren · 16 days ago
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Quick shitpost theory concerning the pre-trial images, don't take this too seriously
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^ These ones
Needless to say this entire theory is an expansion of what's been revealed in Chapter 1, so spoilers ahead for Chapter 1
Alright, so this is a theory specifically built on what direction the characters are looking in. I've also linked it to where they are looking exactly
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As indicated by the colour key at the top left of both images, the characters looking left will be killers, those looking right will be victims, and my best guess for those looking at us are the survivors. (On an off-note, Cassidys portrait is so different from literally all the others I can only assume she's a mastermind or something)
Moving on, I made this assumption based off of Wolfgang and Eva; Wolfgang is looking to the right, Eva is looking to the left. Plus, Eva is also looking at him. I applied this logic to everyone else.
Also, I connected the ones looking outside the circle to another on the assumption that the circles can be seen as next to each other.
By all this logic, everyone will be as follows, in no particular order:
Eva killed Wolfgang
Kai kills Ulysses
Desmond kills Toshiko
Diana kills Ingrid
Wenona kills Mark
Grace and Demon are possibly survivors, and this does kinda fit considering Tozu said himself the killing game will go on until there's two students remaining
We cannot see where Jett is looking, but we can assume Jean will kill him as he is both marked as a killer and looking at him
Eloise is the odd one out, being marked as a killer but looking at Grace. This may just mean she kills herself, or attempts to kill Grace in some way, or both. I mean she accused Grace at the start of the trial and was yelled at by her twice in only this chapter - them continuing to antagonise each other in future chapters isn't that hard to believe personally
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cheesecakemermaid1048 · 17 days ago
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I think we can agree whatever happened between Grace and Wolfgang that night.Grace was top.
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hatchetings · 18 days ago
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wolfgang kinda. deserved it cus i’m sorry… your name is wolfgang? what is this? 1750?
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hopetatic · 18 days ago
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wowzers!!!
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koivoid · 18 days ago
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p:eg posting part 5: the finale! spoilers ofc!
this one is pretty long, since it covers the whole trial!
yep. I don't think grace did it. would be way too obvious. she's probably just mourning him, in her own way.
also damon, why can't you just reveal wolfgang's secret... you’re making yourself more suspicious girl come on...
Minor complaint: once again, p:eg falls into the canon dr's trap of making its truth bullets too vague. jett's statement about wolfgang being stabbed to death shouldn't be countered by the tozu tablet, which doesn't mention his cause of death at all, nor any injuries he sustained. we investigated wolfgang's body ourselves, why shouldn't there be a "wolfgang's body" truth bullet? again, this problem is present in canon dr so I don't blame the devs for this.
OH MY GOD THANK YOU ULYSSES AND INGRID. I was about to say, how would you know those marks on his hands were burn marks unless you knew about the lightning thing? eva and damon didn't know, so how could they just assume it was a burn mark? it doesn't look much like a burn mark, does it???
YIPPEE my theory about wolfgang dying from an electric shock is coming true :D this is just drdt chapter 1 all over again (joke)
REBUTTAL SHOWDOWN!! ohhh the animation is so cool (for both wenona's rebuttal and the actual 'rebuttal showdown' text)
WOAG DAMON POINTING SPRITE!!!! this is genuinely so exciting :D
"Skinny guys bruise easily? Ulysses, fall over!" LMAOOO
also, the fact that wolfgang keeps getting called essentially a twink is really funny
OHHH DIANA IS THE ONLY ONE WHO WEARS HEELS! that DOES make a lot of sense... it can't be her, though. there's way too much evidence that's unexplained, like the locked door and the suspicious metal (bobby pin?)
YAYYY SO IT ISNT HER!!!! THANK GOODNESS :D
poor diana though :( poor wolfgang too neither of them deserved that
btw, if you use the pathos argument while proving diana's innocence, you can skip grace's rebuttal showdown entirely! neat!
the battery was suspended over the generator? NOT ANOTHER MURDER CONTRAPTION I HAD ENOUGH OF THQT IN DRDT!!!
the vent was involved... don't tell me eva is the killer bro...! she knew about the vent from the beginning and she was in the dining hall, where she could have adjusted the vent...
STOPPPP ULYSSES'S ARGUMENT ARNAMENT PHRASE IS LITERALLY JUST "erm.... actually..." IM DEAD LMAOOOOOO
OH NOOO IT IS EVA. NOOOOO I WAS JUST BEGINNING TO LIKE YOU GIRLIE :(
I thought she was sussy at the time because like. who else would want to kill Wolfgang? and she literally woke up in the boiler room too. but I thought she was TOO suspicious to be the killer :(
EVA ACCUSING DAMON IS CRAZY. but it's genuinely nice seeing how damon's distrusting of others led to others suspecting him, even if it only was for a little while.
HOLY SHITTTT EVA BREAKDOWN??? I WASNT EXPECTING THAT AT ALL. HER SPRITES LOOK SO COOL BUT. HOLY
NEW MINIGAME!! the art is super beautiful, but like... I'm struggling :') how do you even dodge the stupid crow attack???? nerf when D: (i probably just have a skill issue)
WOOO I FINALLY BEAT THE ARGUMENT ARNAMENT OR WHATEVER ITS CALLED. time for closing argument
Ohh, it's interesting that everyone is narrating the closing argument instead of just damon, like in the prologue. idk if I like that actually...?
WOAH. the part after the battery falls into the water, and the entire panel just vanishes, and the music stops, that's a really cool way to present it!
again, really love the art for the closing argument! so cool!!!
oh man. eva is such a tragic character.... she could have changed, she was in a new environment where she could have had people who supported her, but she still refused to believe in her classmates. and diana only wanted to help her, but she was the one (other than wolfgang) who got hurt the most by eva's actions...
(um. I was going to write out my thoughts about the execution but I can't seem to find the words for it right now. Imagine a really expertly written analysis here or whatever.)
The execution also has a really... "fanganronpa" look to it. Not that that's a bad thing though, I don't think any fangans have managed to capture the og dr execution style (except maybe sdra2)
aw man damon is crying after the execution :( except after the cg, he doesn't seem to acknowledge that...? even though 2 other characters get new crying sprites, he doesn't get anything, not even the dialogue mentions it. unless I blacked out at that part and missed it? but I'm glad that he cried, actually, because despite him trying to stay distant from the rest of the class, despite him trying to keep a calm face, he ended up caring for eva and crying over her death.
and another note about damon, his doubts about himself seem to have started in this chapter: he expresses doubt about not revealing wolfgang's motive, and about not speaking up about the dangers of the pharmacy. this is kinda interesting, he seems to be starting his character development early. interested to see where he goes!
also, 2 new crying sprites for mark and desmond! that's really cool actually, normally calm characters showing strong emotions is always so awesome to see, especially in fangans, where characters might react really passively to their classmates' deaths.
oh... diana no... she says stuff about continuing wolfgang's legacy when she herself is clearly not okay. she always cares about others' feelings without acknowledging her own. I know this scene is supposed to be motivational, but it genuinely seemed concerning to me. like girllll you're gonna end up dying in chapter 5 after an inevitable breakdown I know it!!! ...actually, I can see an arc like this, where diana slowly descends into distrust and despair while damon slowly learns to work with others and pursue the truth. welp, I'll see if this prediction comes true after like, 6 years, lol.
also, a really really minor thing about the ending: I found it kinda weird that diana striaght up mentions her animal being a chameleon. i feel like thats kind of..... idk, meta? I didn't know the characters were supposed to be aware of their own animal motifs, it feels kinda weird that she mentioned that. just a minor thing :')
but all that aside, we're finally done! this was genuinely such a great game, the eden's garden team put so much effort into this project, and it was so fun to play through (especially without being spoilered beforehand!!) genuinely so awesome, I look forward to more, whenever that may be.
also, two of my favorites are dead. ulysses better not be next.... (it's inevitable his note-taking gimmick is too much to pass up on)
ok that's all from me for now. bye :D
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fragments-of-despair · 2 years ago
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Been thinking about P:EG and some theories people have about it and the sort of expectations that are being built now that the prologue is out. 
And while I know it’s a popular theory, and I know it’ll be going against the grain of popular fandom here, I really, really, REALLY hope they don’t make Wolfgang into a sort of “wolf in sheep’s clothing” type character. 
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Media has plenty lawyer characters who are seen as either crooked, corrupt, absolutely bad people, or some combination there off. We need more good lawyers in fiction. Particularly video games. I think I can count on my hands the number of good lawyers in video games. 90% of those are in Ace Attorney. 
I think it’d be more compelling to have Wolfgang have some kind of trauma related to his reaction to the class trial. Maybe he himself was a victim of the system growing up. Someone close to him was not given the justice they deserved, or he himself was at rock bottom with no one to defend him. Then have that trauma and his strong sense of justice nearly steer the class trial in the wrong direction. Show the flaws of having someone being so passionate without taking a moment to calm themselves down. And have his character development happen in a similar direction as Damon’s. 
There’s a lot of other potentially interesting ideas they could go with his character, even twisting the “wolf in sheep’s clothing” twist on it’s head. But I think having the trope played straight would honestly bring things down. 
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agoist · 14 days ago
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That is a childdddd 10/10 i LOVE how shes more hysterical than the rest
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lxrd-ren · 18 days ago
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Theory time concerning the end screen, aka, the remaining students:
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Now, as we all know, when a student dies their picture disappears along with them. Only with this fangame, it's an actual image instead of the students silhouettes in a line
Riddle me this, do you think they'd create an image that left students looking at seemingly thin air? I don't think so
So, this is a theory constructed on the idea that the image was created with the death order in mind, so no student would be left lookin silly staring at seemingly nothing. As such, I have tried to predict who, at the moment, is likelier to die
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Above I've added arrows that help illustrate where each character is looking
The idea is that if a character currently has someone looking at them, they likely will not die next given that the student that was looking at them will be left staring at absolutely nothing
Now, I say 'die next' instead of 100% safe for two reasons:
1, Especially in regards to if there is more than two deaths, a character may simply die in the same chapter as whoever is looking at them, solving the paradox
2, Since they are somewhat sitting in a line, if a student dies, then whoever was looking at them may just now be looking at someone else
Spoilers ahead for the end of Chapter 1..
As of Chapter 1 this theory holds up given that those that died, Wolfgang and Eva, didn't have anyone looking at them, so the after image doesn't make anyone look at air
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Above I've circled those that are currently in immediate danger with the simple fact of how no one is looking at them: Damon, Eloise, Mark, Cassidy, Grace and Wenona. If any of them were to die, it would not make any characters look at air
This isn't to say one of them will 100% be next; for example, Jett is being looked at by Desmond, but if he were to die, Desmond would look like he was looking at Mark. Similar thing to Kai - Demon and Diana are looking at him, but they would then be looking at each other if he were to die
Moving on, other things to note are..
- Toshiko and Ingrid
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They are looking at each other, with no one else looking at them. If one were to die, there would be an instant paradox. Meaning, they are effectively linked; they either die together, or survive together
For better or worse, they are connected to one another - likely will be involved in a double victim case, but since this fangame plans to avoid the usual tropes in the Danganronpa franchise, we can't say for sure if a double kill will even happen at all, much less pinpoint it to a chapter
- Jean
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For the time being, Jean is likely safe. Unlike Kai and Jett, the people looking at him are looking upwards; they could only be looking to him. 2 people (and kinda Ulysses) would therefore have to die with or before him for the image to make sense
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cheesecakemermaid1048 · 18 days ago
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Chapter 1 spoilers
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