#prince of cannock

[octo-l95]

Cleaned up an older piece to post for the DQII anniversary

[thesworddog]

I drew chibis of the gang from SLARPG! And also the Prince of Cannock from DQ2 because why not lol

[trecomics]

Started playing the Dragon Quest games on mobile in order! Before doing this, I've only finished one DQ to completion and that was DQ Builders 2 years ago, a big fave. I was so happy while playing DQ2 that it's world was the basis for Builders 2!

TBH I didn't know anything about DQ outside slimes and what I played from Builders. It's been a joy reliving a game series I didn't know had sequels past 1 during the NES days.

[mostly-magical-polls]

Best Magical Trio - Round 2

[xbuster]

Prince of Cannock and Krillin’s favorite place to chill:

I don’t want to talk about Pokémon. Let’s talk about Dragon Quest.

Have you seen him?

[questersrest]

Why do you think the scions are the 'scions of Erdrick' and not the 'scions of Alef'? They're more closely related to Alef.

You can call them what you like. Like, Alef is a name only used in adaptations like the CD drama and the novelisations so I don't refer to his game incarnation as that, i call him the hero of Alefgard, the hero of Tantegel, or just the first hero.

In fact, Dragon Quest Monster Battle Road Victory, which mostly uses the names the heroes are known as, calls the first hero ロトの血を引く者参 (Roto no chi o hiku monosan) which is like 'Roto's (Erdrick's) descendant' or if you'd like you could use the word 'scion' you could also translate it as 'scion of Erdrick.'

I'm not actually sure where the name 'scions of Erdrick' for the DQ2 party is used.

If we look at DQMBRV again, they're just individually named as ローレシアの王子 (Rōreshia no ōji) or prince of Midenhall, サマルトリアの王子 (Samarutoria no ōji) or prince of Cannock, and ムーンブルクの王女 (Mūnburuku no ōjo) or princess of Moonbrooke. Then it refers to them collectively as 勇者たち (yūsha-tachi) or 'heroes.'

Meanwhile, some appearances of the hero of DQ2, such as the clip from DQ2 seen in the true credits of DQ11, use the name ろらん (Roran) which some think comes from the Japanese name for Midenhall, ローレシア (Rōreshia).

But, if you want to use the CD drama and novelisation names like Alef, the hero of DQ2 gets called アレン (Aren) or Allen there.

Point is, the names used officially get changed up sometimes so really call them whatever you want. I think Dragon Quest fans will probably know who you mean if you say 'scions of Alef'.

ANYWAY, sorry for that tangent. To answer your actual question, I think it's probably because Erdrick is the big iconic figure in the first three games. I mean those games are called the Erdrick trilogy after all. It's like yeah they're descended from the first hero but more importantly they're descended from Erdrick the legendary hero. The game is even called Dragon Quest II: Luminaries of the Legendary Line in reference to the bloodline of Erdrick.

(Hey! There's another thing you could call them: 'luminaries of the legendary line.' Yeah that's a mouthful but technically it's an official English name.)

[doggirldick]

btw i've been talking about dragon quest stuff on my dq blog, if you watched the nintendo direct and wanna know what the big deal with dq1&2 hd-2d remake is:

dq3 hd-2d remake was originally anounced in 2021 but we didn't hear anything more till 2024 with the anouncement it was coming that year and there was gonna be a dq1&2 hd-2d remake as well coming 2025. dq3 hd-2d remake released last year to much success so dq fans have been eagerly awaiting an update on dq1&2 hd-2d now it's 2025.

the teaser at the direct was the first thing we've had. although they didn't give a more specific release date or anything, we got a new character reveal.

dq1, being the first jrpg, is very simple and doesn't even have a party, it's just 1 guy. when dq2 was being developed, they wanted to respond to complaints that dq1 felt very lonely so they added a party but this was before the standard of a party of 4 in jrpgs so there are 3 in dq2. the game takes place 100 years after the events of dq1 where the hero and princess gwaelin set out and founded 3 kingdoms ruled by their descendants. so the hero of dq2 is the prince of midenhall and he allies himself with his cousins: the prince of cannock and the princess of moonbrooke (whose names can be customised in newer versions but were randomly selected from a list originally). they're known collectively as the scions of erdrick (being descended from the dq1 hero who, himself, is descended from the legendary hero erdrick of dq3 fame).

the big reveal at the direct is that there's a new character in dq2 who's been added to the key art so is most probably a new party member. though her identity is as yet unknown, her colour scheme resembles the prince of cannock who has always had a sister and she may thus have been redesigned. so it's very possible she's the princess of cannock, in which case she's still a scion of erdrick. that's my theory anyway, could be unrelated.

regardless, we love her.

[darkcloud-kcalifornia]

So, about that Dragon Quest 2 reveal. I can’t say for sure who the new girl is. Nor do I know what her role in the party is going to be. But whatever role she does fill there is one thing that’s certain.

Her being there is going to make the Prince of Cannock even more worthless than he already was.

Okay, that’s hardly fair. With the way they switched things up in the new DQ3 by letting all of the classes have abilities they can use and them probably using the same engine for this game then the PoC is probably going to have some new abilities, and possibly equipment options as well, that could do a lot to lift him up. Of course the Prince of Midenhall will also probably be given abilities other than “attack” even if he still isn’t a mage, so PoC could wind up left even more in the dust.

Though on a sillier note, as I have seen a guess that the new girl is the PoC’s little sister, this raises the possibility of him getting shown up and overshadowed by his little sister. And that can be a pretty devastating blow to the ego for some guys. Now I’ve seen at least one instance of a character recovering from that. I dunno if PoC would want to take the same solution as its a rather drastic one, but just in case he wants a really fresh start, I’mma just leave this here.

[slugdragoon]

RPG Role Analysis Series #13 - Chrono Trigger

Crono - Crono is typical of JRPG protagonists, versatile warriors with access to magic. Right away, Crono can use his physical skills to deal damage to multiple enemies at once, and later can do damage-dealing light attacks and raise party members (but cannot otherwise buff or heal them). He kind of reminds me of the Prince of Cannock from Dragon Quest II in that he has access to damaging magic and Raise, but is less focused on healing (though Crono cannot do it at all). Raise, however, does not fully heal party members on resurrection like Arise does (which Marle can use). Given the use of holy damage, resurrection, relentless physical attacks that can focus down a single enemy by hitting them four times in a row, and luck-blessed top-level weaponry that vastly increases his chance to critical hit, Crono feels like a paladin, but more the smiting/venegeance kind than the healing/inspiring kind.

Marle - Despite being the best single-target healer in the game, and the only character other than the protagonist to be able to revive, I would consider Marle a red mage archetype, though with a strong focus on healing and ice damage specifically. A red mage that's more white than black. A pink mage perhaps? But, if you look at her spell list, besides three scaled versions of Cure, and Arise, Marle also gets damage-dealing Ice, both single and multi-target, and a single-target Confuse-inflicting spell, so her detrimental magic takes up a significant portion of her skill list, and some of her best bows inflict status effects as well. She also gets Haste, which is beneficial, but black mages had that ability in Final Fantasy, it allows other party members to kill enemies faster

Lucca - Lucca could be considered a black mage focused elementally on fire, quickly getting access to multi-target Fire and Sleep skills, and mostly just getting different variations on Fire skills from there, actually getting access to single-target Fire later on. She kind of reminds me of Vivian from Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, actually. Besides this, she can use Protect to increase the physical Defense of a single ally.

Frog - Frog is more of a physical fighter, and has lower magic stats, but interestingly is the only party member to be able to have access to the Water element. He has some healing skills, including Cure II (large, single target) and Heal (multi-target), so is versatile in healing, but the lower stats can let down the amount of HP healed, and he cannot raise dead party members. Mostly, Frog does large single-target damage until his ultimate attack, which can hit everyone and deals more damage when he is hurt. Given his character, it's tempting to also read Frog as a sort of paladin type, but I think it somewhat fits, what with his healing being more useful to stabilize (more like blessing them with them the stamina to go on than spending much time being a medic) the party when necessary, and Frog Squash (his ultimate skill) being a sort of miracle he can call upon when the situation is dire. So maybe, Crono is more smite, and Frog is more bless.

Robo- Robo is a tank, taking the most damage, and dealing respectable damage. Besides this, Robo has both single, and all-party healing skills, though less effective than what Marle has access to. His attacks are single target only for physical attacks, but he has access to multi-target magic attacks of Shadow, Light, and Fire elements, which is notable, as all other party members have a single element, until Magus. Robo reminds me of a magic knight archetype, except perhaps statted to be a little bit more tankier, with high defense an low speed, than how you normally see them, which is typically with a higher focus on attack stats, leaving another character to boast the highest defenses. Robo is focused on physical stats, but has versatile "magic", but which is limited, healing skills by their effectiveness, and damaging skills by being limited to more expensive multi-target spells with no single-target option.

Ayla - Ayla cannot cast any magic, or equip any weapons, though her fists naturally upgrade as she levels up, and at very high levels can Confuse opponents or inflict max damage on a crit. She's the strongest physical attacker, and the second sturdiest next to Robo. She mostly gets damage dealing moves (both single and multi-target), and one of them, Dino Tail gets stronger as she has less HP, the kind of struggle mechanic you can sometimes see on martial artist types, which she is, though it's flavoured as the summoning of a dinosaur for one attack. Ayla gets two non-damaging skills, Kiss, which heals one target's health and status effects, which is kind of like Chakra can be used in Final Fantasy, also fitting a monk/martial artist, and Charm, which is actually an item-stealing skill, not a status effect, so Ayla is a monk/thief.

Magus - Magus is an elemental mage, notably getting access to multi-target magic attacks of every element in the game except water, and three different scaling techniques of the Shadow element, emphasizing his focus on darkness in particular. Magus two other skills, Barrier, which can increase the Magic Defense of a single ally, and Dark Mist, which attempts to insta-banish enemies. I would be tempted to call Magus a black mage, but thinking back to Final Fantasy I, a key feature of the black mage is status dealing and debuffing, whereas Magus has instead a beneficial shield spell as utility. A powerful damage-dealing wizard, sure, but Magus is more focused on fighting with magic than stacking all detrimental kind of magic, which is a bit different.

Lots of magic use in Chrono Trigger. They fully committed to having the first four characters have access to a single element each, despite this being a game where elemental damage doesn't feel that important. Then, they had two additional elemental generalists, and while Lucca and Robo are flavoured as having more tech-based skills, leaving only one slot for a character that doesn't overall match some kind of caster. I almost feel like Frog at least could have leaned even more physical, or Lucca or Robo's tech could have been more support-based to diversify the party feel, but the cast of Chrono Trigger is obviously great overall.

[basedkikuenjoyer]

There is a reason I was thinking about classic Dragon Quest. I was paid for market research, and with that silly extra windfall after paying a couple of bills like a responsible adult I had $8 left so I got the DQ2 remake on the Switch. Aaaand I've already beaten it. To be fair, it is rather short but when you know what to do it doesn't take long.

I liked the remake. It didn't back off on the challenge, but it smoothed out the experience gain. You don't have to waste a lot of time in Rhone/Rendarak because the enemies drop a lot more XP. Perfect, elegant fix. Not sure how I feel about making the hidden stuff sparkly spots...but they were too cryptic back then honestly.

Otherwise, man I love this one. It's simple but the party have a lot of iconic character with very little pushing you that way. Simple flourishes like the Princess of Moonbrook shrugging off her curse once it's broken because she cares about the people and the Prince of Cannock's selflessness when stricken ill go a long way. It's still a great fusion of story and mechanics that holds up well.

[zombiesama]

Reworking my homepage :3c if you hover over the chest it opens and when you hover over the Prince of Cannock he turns into a coffin lol

also changed up the map! it looks better now, and it's the actual tileset I was looking for instead of a remake of it.

[thesworddog]

so uhm..... I drew both cannock and his beta design

[seasaalttrio]

just now learning about the scrapped alternate ending for dq2 where the prince of cannock sacrifices himself to save the world and then his sister blames you and kills you

[serenica]

i am like the #1 carver and prince of cannock appreciator. if these two characters have 100 fans i am one of them, if they have none then i'm dead and in the ground etc etc

[mirandamckenni1]

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[xbuster]

Do you accept the name Rickerd and/or Princeton for the Prince of Cannock

NO to Princeton, but DQ Tact did warm me up to Rickerd. But to me, he’ll always be Prince of Cannock no matter how many times DQ2 tries to name him Kain.