#poliziano

[thiswaycomessomethingwicked]

Of interest to you @centaurianthropology - a hot mention of Poliziano’s L’Orfeo!

[sparrow-in-boots]

commission for @robin-in-the-library of beloved Angelo Poliziano and kitty Telemacus! thank you so so much for the lovely comm!! <3

for comm info, click here or check my ko-fi!

[jamesgraybooksellerworld]

8 books Printed 1501/2 -1520

“Eyb stressed two things throughout the Margarita: to be able to write well and to be disposed to live properly.”  Albrecht von Eyb (who has a few more than the usual variations of his name [see https://data.cerl.org/thesaurus/cnp01316161] 364J Albrecht von Eyb 1420-1475 Margarita Poetarum [publisher not identified] or [Venezia: Albertino da Lessona, 1502].     $3,900 [leaf. 2: Oratorivm…

[officialpenisenvy]

RESULTS ARE OUT I GOT A 28/30 GIO NATION WE HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE UP

[adverbian]

This is some extremely niche humor, but. So, these two guys, Angelo Poliziano and Pico della Mirandola. Both poets in Renaissance Florence circa 1480-1490. (They were also murdered together in 1494, which no one knew until their bodies were exhumed in 2007, but that’s not involved in this story.)

This is the flirtiest goddamn beta-reading exchange I have ever seen.

(For flavor: These letters were originally written in Latin. The English translation is Shane Butler, 2006; available to read at OpenLibrary.org.)

Pico writes first, enclosing some new love poems he’s written, and asking Poliziano to beta-read for him. He says “Give it to those poems rough.”

Since I have arranged my poetic trifles, by which I made sport of my love affairs for as long as youth allowed, into five books, I am sending you the first of these and intend to send you the rest, provided that in this one I find in you a friend instead of a flatterer.

For they come to you on the strict condition that they be chastised and spanked and that they pay the price for their errors by enduring fingernail and skewers.

Translator notes at this point: “The elaborate (and largely untranslatable) erotic and sadomasochistic humor of this sentence depends on […] two technical terms: the Latin phrase ad unguem, "to the point of being ready for the fingernail," which strictly refers to a carpenter's ultimate test of the smoothness of a join but which was used broadly in Latin to describe the successful finish of any work of art (especially poetry), and the symbol of the "skewer" or "dagger" (†) […] used in textual criticism since antiquity to mark spurious lines of verse.”

In other words, “Yeah, daddy, mark it up good and hard.”

Poliziano replies, enclosing his beta comments:

My, you are a wit to match me with your Loves and to require that such attractive boys be received by me —though I hardly am the type to wear a furrowed brow — with such nasty strictness. They say that Love all by himself challenged Pan, a god, to the ring and threw him on his back. How do you suppose that I can wrestle with Venus’s whole team? Nevertheless, you — yes, you, Pico, who can be refused in nothing, no matter what it is, without gross sacrilege — insist on this. And so I prevailed upon a few of them to endure a little abuse from me. […]

In other words, “Your poems are a whole team of extremely hot twinks, and you asked me to wrestle all of them so roughly, instead of just taking them to bed. But I did it. For you.”

Pico replies, waggling an eyebrow:

My Loves declare that they never have enjoyed a reception more stylish or entertaining than that which greeted them over the course of the past few days at your house. Even as they themselves take full credit for the friendly way in which you did it, they are enormously in your debt for pricking them at all. Yes, who wouldn't want to die on the receiving end of that sword of yours?

WHO

WOULDN'T

WANT TO DIE

ON THE RECEIVING END

OF THAT

SWORD

OF YOURS

!!!!!!

In other words, 🍆💦🍆💦🍆💦

I need to see the entire transcript of their DMs immediately.

[italian-lit-tournament]

Italian literature tournament - Second round.

Propaganda in support of the authors is accepted, you can write it both in the tag if reblog the poll (explaining maybe that is propaganda and you want to see posted) or in the comments. Every few days it will be recollected and posted here under the cut.

[girlboccaccio]

Italian literature tournament idea?

I have many things to do but still I want to fill the void of my existence, so a week ago I thought "why don't create a tumblr tournament between the authors from italian literature?".

For the names there are two simple option:

or I will chose the names from the literary canon

or I will open a google form when everyone, by a specified date, will insert the author names that will be put in the tounament.

both the three options combined: I will but the names already chosen under this post and after that open a google form if anyone else want to add some names. The more the merrier the longer = more violence between our favourite author from high school <3

The combination for the various challenges will be sorted randomly, I think I'll use a program/generator to do the job.

Idk if somebody else did the same thing for other literature, like the french or russian, but this idea could be used for various possibilities.

+ I think I'll add also playwrites, for me theatre and literature are different fields but a playwriter at the end of the road is still an author.

I also wanted to do the same thing for italian art, but is a field too wide and maybe in a future I could do it more by art schools/genres (best baroque artist/architect, best renaissance artist/architect etc).

[sforzesco]

if you've ever wondered how long something can sit in my WIP folder, this one is probably the idea I've been kicking around the longest

so. you see. what happened was.

last year I was reading about socratic dialogues in the renaissance right. only at one point, I got it confused with platonic discussions, and when you start reading about platonic discussions of love, you run into marsilio ficino, and I just kind of. stayed there until I ran out of books to read, and finally decided to finish this up!

Plato's Persona: Marsilio Ficino, Renaissance Humanism, and Platonic Traditions, Denis J. J. Robinchaud

bsky ⭐ pixiv ⭐ pillowfort ⭐ cohost

[eresia-catara]

dreamt a petty teenage girl was trying to kill me in a pool for my takes on guido.

at one point I pulled her head underwater out of annoyance. for a few moments.

[centaurianthropology]

@thiswaycomessomethingwicked

A little gift for myself this evening!

[seleccionpoetica]

Cuando ríe, al momento todo el cielo se serena.

Angelo Poliziano. “oídme un poco, amantes”

[thiswaycomessomethingwicked]

We poked our head into San Marco but will do a more thorough visit later. Did find Angelo Polizano’s grave. At some point a statue of Savonarola was positioned in front of it about which I have a Lot of Feelings.

Couldn’t it have gone to like…the side a little? I get why Savonarola is there &c. And I get that he and Angelo were friends and that Angelo was one of his adherents I still just have weird feelings about it

(It’s because of the sad Marsilio to Angelo letter about astrology. Everyone was so messy and complicated)

[unabashedqueenfury]

Reign 2013-2017/01-08 • 02-22

Mary and Francis

Per mille volte ben trovata sia

Ipolita gentil, caro mio bene,

Viva speranza, dolce vita mia,

Deh guarda quel che a riveder ti viene;

Deh fagli udir la tuo dolce armonia,

Dà questo rifrigerio alle suo pene!

Se 'l tuo bel canto gli fara' sentire,

Allor allor contento è di morire.

(Agnolo Ambrogini named Poliziano, XII, "Per mille volte ben trovata sia", from "Rime", 1495)

[sugarsnappeases]

guess who’s crying over orpheus and eurydice again……

[officialpenisenvy]

bullshitting is a very fine art but a very scary one to put into writing. once got a 28 utterly waffling about angelo poliziano for three minutes but who knows how today's waffling about angelo poliziano for ten lines will fare me

[mercuriicultores]

Angelus Politianus – Angelus Politianus Paulo Cortesio suo s. d.

Mihi certe quicumque tantum componunt ex imitatione, similes esse vel psittaco vel picae videntur, proferentibus quae nec intelligunt. Carent enim quae scribunt isti viribus et vita; carent actu, carent affectu, carent indole, iacent, dormiunt, stertunt. Nihil ibi verum, nihil solidum, nihil efficax. «Non exprimis», inquit aliquis, «Ciceronem». Quid tum? non enim sum Cicero; me tamen, ut opinor, exprimo.

[…] Sed ut ad te redeam, Paule, quem penitus amo, cui multum debeo, cuius ingenio plurimum tribuo, quaeso, ne superstitione ista te alliges, ut nihil delectet quod tuum plane sit et ut oculos a Cicerone nunquam deicias. Sed cum Ciceronem, cum bonos alios multum diuque legeris, contriveris, edidiceris, concoxeris et rerum multarum cognitione pectus impleveris, ac iam componere aliquid ipse parabis, turn demum velim quod dicitur sine cortice nates, atque ipse tibi sis aliquando in consilio, sollicitudinemque illam morosam nimis et anxiam deponas effingendi tantummodo Ciceronem tuasque denique vires universas pericliteris. Nam qui tantum ridicula ista quae vocatis liniamenta contemplantur attoniti, nec ilia ipsa, mihi crede satis repraesentant, et impetum quodammodo retardant ingenii sui, currentique velut obstant et, ut utar plautino verbo, remoram faciunt. Sed ut bene currere non potest qui pedem ponere studet in alienis tantum vestigiis, ita nec bene scribere qui tamquam de praescripto non audet egredi. Postremo scias infelicis esse ingenii nihil a se promere, semper imitari.

[HIS] Aquellos que se dedican exclusivamente a la imitación parecen similares a un loro o a una urraca, pues pronuncian cosas que no comprenden. Carecen de la fuerza y la vitalidad necesarias; carecen de acción, carecen de emoción, carecen de personalidad; yacen, duermen, roncan. No hay en ellos nada verdadero, nada sólido, nada eficaz. «No logras expresar a Cicerón», dice alguien. ¿Y qué? No soy Cicerón; pero al menos me expresaré. […] Pero para volver a ti, Pablo, a quien amo profundamente, a quien debo mucho, a quien atribuyo un gran talento, te ruego que no te adhieras a esa superstición, para que nada te deleite que no sea exclusivamente tuyo y para que no seas como aquellos que nunca apartan los ojos de Cicerón. Sino que, cuando hayas le��do mucho tiempo a Cicerón y a otros buenos autores, cuando los hayas desglosado, estudiado, asimilado y hayas llenado tu mente con el conocimiento de muchas cosas, y te prepares para componer algo por ti mismo, entonces desearía que fueras tú mismo el que, con esfuerzo, habla, que seas tú mismo alguna vez en tus decisiones, que te deshagas de esa preocupación excesiva y ansiosa por simplemente imitar a Cicerón y no pongas en peligro todas tus propias habilidades. Porque aquellos que contemplan con asombro esas ridiculeces que llaman 'rasgos' (liniamenta), créeme, no las representan adecuadamente, de alguna manera retrasan el ímpetu de su propio ingenio, parecen, usando una expresión de Plauto, obstruir a alguien que está corriendo y hacen que se detenga. Pero así como aquel que se esfuerza por poner el pie únicamente en las huellas de otros no puede correr bien, tampoco puede escribir bien aquel que no se atreve a salir de los límites preestablecidos. En conclusión, debes saber que es desafortunado no producir nada propio, y siempre imitar.