#plus her being a ninja was supposed to be this big betrayal
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wtf-a-psychoanalysis · 1 year ago
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Like i also find the character development interesting
Also comic spoilers.
Yuichi probably knows that Miyamoto had allied himself with Ninja in the past, one also named Chizu. It's funny because both Chizus upset both Usagis by kinda lying to them and put them in harms way, leading to fighting ninja, and then the Usagis did eventually forgive them and the Chizus end up being besties with the Kitsune's
Also out of the four Yuichi and Kitsune's past is what we least know about, Yeah we get bits and pieces but not flashbacks like the others and it tells a lot about those two not being too attached to their past.
Like i wish for a season 3 so bad to dive into this aspect. Tho honestly if Yuichi's life is kinda mirroring Miyamoto, I would like to see his father being a magistrate that gets killed by Samurai Rabbit's Version of Hikiji or Hebi and Yuichi having to run away with Auntie.
There is so much more to talk about too
I'll reblog your tags for additional context ok
I want more people to talk about Usagi Yojimbo and Samurai Rabbit with.
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#AGGGG YUICHI FROM SAMURAI RABBIT SO INTERESTINGN HOLD ON LEMME TALK#no Okay I have a lot of thoughts actually#but one of them that I want to talk the most abt is how he reacted to chizu being a ninja#he was literally SO okay with it#the only time he held it over her head was when he wanted her food that she made or something in that one episode#WHICH IS SO INTERESTING#because he bases his entire life off of being a samurai like minomoto#And minomoto fought ALOT of ninjas according to him#samurai beef or something right right#but he was just like :o okay moving on ive got samurai stuff to do anyways hope chizu is alright when it was revealed#which kind of shows character development???#like when we first see him he wants to fight everyone he sees that might give him a name for himsef#and ninja is DEF in that list of things#plus her being a ninja was supposed to be this big betrayal#but he did Not care like at all he was so chill abt it#SO IT KINDA SHOWS HE LEARNED FROM THE WHOLE YOKAI THING#like how he doesn’t assume that all Yokai are bad anymore#I think he took it as something that applied to everyone#dont judge a book by its cover yknow#AND ALSO ALSO he’s so neat because he’s so talented right off the bat#And usually the hero is this aspiring newbie in western children’s shows#so him being able to go toe to toe with a Yokai that’s supposed to be unbeatable by like ep one was so cool#makes you wonder how much time and effort he put into being a samurai#like he must have bugged his aunt non stop to teach him#which is just so cute to me#Speaking of aunt#its never explained why he lived with her#like where are his parents what happened#I HONESTLY THOUGHT THEYD BRING IT UP IN THE EPISODE WHERE GENS HOUSE IS A MUSUEM AND THE YOKAI WAS PHYCOANALYSING HIM#but he’s too silly goofy for that and I care so much
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ninjago-forever · 5 months ago
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Okay, forget niceties on to the nonsense theories-
First off, the ep. called "The Shattering Sword." (Have these been confirmed or debunked yet? Idk. Well, who cares, I got theories.)
What does it mean? Obviously it has something to do with Lloyd cause of that vision, and breaking his signature weapon. Thing is, that's THE most symbolic way of showing a character break. Harry and his wand? Eragon and Zar'roc? Leonardo and his katana's in 2003? And 2012? (Not sure about the last one-). So, what's going to happen to Lloyd?
I have a ton of theories. This is what happens when you're Ninjago obsessed, can't sleep, and you're desperately trying to keep your mind from... Dark stuff.
Lloyd loses the tournament. Possibly badly hurt/blind(kay, a stretch, BUT IT WOULD BE AWESOME)/ in a coma/maaaaaaybe lose a limb (Look, Cinder broke Wyldfyre's leg on screen. We've got mentions of mental health and panic attacks. Lego is testing the waters. I can hope.) Most obvious one, but... To make that big of a deal out of it... I feel like it also would shatter his spirit in some way. Also... I'm probably biased, but... I can't really see anyone beating him fairly...
Lloyd is poisoned (inspired by Tox supposedly being evil) and can't fight. Possibly in a coma.
Lloyd is somehow kidnapped by Ras's various competitors (Cinder, Nokt, Jordana [HOW IS SHE IN THIS?!?!], Tox, Jay, ect.). Possibly being prepared for sacrifice.
Ras & Co. somehow get a wolf mask on Lloyd and we have return of the golden oni. (I CAN HOPE)
Lloyd is upset because the team is broken. A lot of the ep. names have to do with betrayal and mistrust and all that nonsense, plus ToE has a lot to do with that too (Jay vs. Cole, Kai's second jealousy arc, Skyler ECT.), so it would make sense. What do I mean exactly? Well, Wyldfyre could be on a whole rage thing after losing Kai, Nya has that plus Jay returning with no memories of her and on Ras's side, Kai's sacrifice (though after his whole smiley thing with Arin idk), Zane maybe worked up over Pixel (there was a whole thing in ToE. There could be a repeat), Cole torn between the Finders and the Ninja (stretch but eh), Arin mad at Sora because he finds out how she tricked him, Sora trying to make up for that plus whatever's supposed to happen with Jordana (though it doesn't seem like she cares about that), you get the idea. Return of window cleaner Lloyd basically. Most likely one imo.
One last thing, one of Lloyd's visions showed another sword breaking, a stone one with a purple/fuchsia gem in the hilt and was seen being held by Beatrix. Maybe this has nothing to do with Lloyd but rather that sword-or maybe someone beats him with it.
Then again, we don't even know if these titles are real and I could very well be overreacting :D. Anyways, PLEASE PLEASE PLEAS SHARE YOU THOUGHTS AND REBLOG! THIS IS MY FIRST TIME SHARING THEORIES LIKE THIS AND ID LOVE TO DEBATE! (In a fun way ofc.)
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juniaships · 3 years ago
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Odelloyd (Yodel shipping)
Since @minecraftninjerkid expressed interest I wrote a particularly long post about Odette and Lloyd Garmadon's relationship. It's basically set in my AU of the while Ninjago canon. It's pretty angsty in some parts, and honestly I love this couple because it's a story of two individuals who learn to trust and like TALK with each other and work out their issues together! Plus I feel like if Lloyd needed another love interest within canon it should be someone who can match his energy, a strong young lady who works side by side with him!
Harumi is still the princess but now she has a LADY IN WAITING!! YAYAY
Mostly because she needed a morality pet in some way but also a foil to show if Harumi hadn't been so consumed by personal demons
Odette was a homeless orphan living on the streets with her sister; often stealing from food carts to feed themselves
One night Odette made the mistake of stealing from one of the SOG and they catch her and bring her to their base
Instead of being mad Harumi was impressed by her thieving skills and decided to recruit her. Odette didn't want to at first but then she had second thoughts thinking the extra money could help her and baby sis
So Harumi brings her back and manages to convince the Emperor and Empress to hire Odette as a lady in waiting & decoy if Harumi needed to sneak out to do her business Odette is So instead of it being Harumi it's Odette who stays and befriends the ninja
Odette had NO IDEA her friend plotted to blow up the palace - with her still inside - not great thinking there o' Quiet One
She also had no idea how AWESOME Lloyd is on a motorcycle: "Sweet moves grasshopper!"
They stop at several places gathering clues on the location on the final mask leaving a lot of time for Lloyd and odette to bond; for the first time in forever Odette starts to enjoy life again
The Ninja take Odette in and decide to search for the final mask. Odette does what she can to help out (and find info) getting close to them and my OCs
Lloyd even buys her a gift: a lotus shaped hairpin to replace the one she lost in the palace fight
The jungle incident happens; Lloyd and Odette separates for a while and she comes across the real princess who had stalked the group the whole time undercover
But she's afraid that her big secret might come out everywhere she goes she's often looking over her shoulder
Odette starts to really enjoy the Ninja's company and all her perceived notions about them fade; but she still had to find Harumi to try to talk her out of her plot
Odette meets up with Lloyd inside the caves and they look for the final mask. Finally they see it and Lloyd grabs it, happy that they found the masks before the gang did but notices Odette isn't feeling the same
She's tells Harumi that they're all making a HUGE mistake with the Masks; Harumi of course refuses and orders her to stick to the plan or else
He asks her what's wrong and that's when Odette becomes hysterical and begs Lloyd to destroy the mask or run
Lloyd doesn't know whay she's talking about and tries to calm her down suddenly they hear some sarcastic clapping and in steps in Harumi. Dressed in full Royal Garb
Lloyd is confused and doesn't understand looking back and forth between the newly revealed Princess and the one next to him
Harumi reveals that she is - was - the real princess and that Odette was acting as her decoy to spy on the ninja. She hadn't count on Lloyd catching feelings for Odette which made it all the more sweeter
Odette pleas with Lloyd claiming that while she was ordered to spy, her feelings for him and his friends were genuine. Lloyd coldly brushes he brushes her off and calls her a liar and demands Harumi why she planned all this. The Princess explains that the Ninja failed to save her family from the Great Devourer & that it was Lloyd himself who unleashed such monster on the city killing her parents and several civilians
Harumi also revealed that she had the Emperor and Empress assassinated as punishment for their inaction during that event, and subsequent failure in treating her like a person. "They didn't want a daughter they wanted a Princess."
Harumi takes out her knife and begins attacking Lloyd; Odette watches helplessly as they fight and in the ensuing chaos Harumi knicks Lloyd and orders Odette to return to their group
The Ninja wait by the docks and discovers Odette and the real princess together. They're shocked to see two Princesses; the real Harumi admits her plan knowing they wouldn't last for long to do anything to stop her. An Angry Kai yells at Odette for selling them out
Then the monster attack happens because it is drawn to the mask's essence; Lloyd saves Odette from being crushed, she tries to use the brief chance to explain but he still brush her off
The SOG board their ship and leaves; Odette wallows in guilt Harumi snarky asks her if she really thinks the Ninja are her friends. Odette shakes her head no and looks out the window praying for them to be alright
Back at the city the SOG takes Misako (and Cole's gf Rhenée) hostage to draw Lloyd out. Odette is no longer in her casual clothes but in SOG attire; at the ritual she pretends to be clumsy hoping to stall the ritual long enough
Rhenée asks Odette if she's willing to risk her soul for the terrible actions of other, hoping that Odette can make the right choice. This makes her think about her placement in the SOG
Suddenly the ninja crashes the party just in time and battles the gang. Odette frees Rhenee and Misako and allows herself to be apprehended
Outside she's sitting in the police van when Lloyd walks by and she begs him to hear her out. He wants to listen but is furious with her for betraying them and cuts her off
The ninja head to a bar to celebrate their victory; Lloyd has an honest talk with his mother about Harumi and vows to never trust again. Rhenée says that while Odette lied to them she notices that she's very different from the rest of the SOG
At the jailhouse Odette is sobbing at having lost everything - her friends, her life, and maybe even her sister. She takes out the lotus pin and is about to throw it way when she hears some commotion outside. Apparently the ritual brought back a monster. Fearing for her sister's safety she uses the pin to unlock her cell and sneaks out
Lloyd is too occupied with protecting Baby Wu to fight off Harumi; before she knocks him off Odette arrives & saves him and the baby
In the chaos the Monster arrives and tries to crush them all, Odette gives Lloyd enough time to escape but she falls to her supposed death in the process
Once the battle is over the four original ninjas are nowhere to be seen and are presumed dead
They find out Odette disappeared also, and believe her to he dead too
Harumi and her gang express joy at their enemies demise; and the gang no longer recognize Odette as their own seeing her as a traitor. Deep down Harumi feels a tiny bit pain over the loss of her only real friend but quickly sets that aside to prepare one last scheme
Lloyd grieves Odette's loss regretting they never had the chance to really TALK about what happened between them.
Unknown to everyone, the ninja and Odette were transported to the First Realm
Seasons 9&10 ramps up the angst
Cole is the first one who demands to hear her explanation. Odette explains her backstory and says whole none of it justifies her lies she has now become aware of her actions and is willing to help the ninja FOR REAL FOR REAL
The ninja do NOT want Odette anywhere near them after her betrayal and for a while shuns her.
Zane is the second one; his relationship with former merc Jetta he understands a bit what it's like to choose bad things for survive
Jay and Kai takes the longest: Jay because he's paranoid that Odette may just be evil and insane as Harumi; Kai because he is very protective of Lloyd (who he sees as a younger brother, and even had begun to saw Odette as another sister) and furious that she'd hurt him and their whole team like that
This leads to a series of trials for Odette to prove that she's willing to atone; she actually finds the last dragon's nest and vows to protect it
Meanwhile in Ninjago the city started an underground resistance led by Lloyd and Nya; Lloyd took in Odette's sister to take care of her now that she is gone
Odette and the Ninja finds a way out of the first realm and arrives with their new dragons. Odette splits off to confront Harumi and sees her on top of a building...which is about to fall much to her horror
Lloyd witnesses the scene and shouts Odette's name; the building collapses and he sinks to his knees in fear
Everyone watches with baited breath and cheers as they see both girls and the dragon coming out of the smoke alive
Lloyd and Odette apologize to each other then go off with their friends to fight off the Oni invasion
Once everything is over & Harumi decides to turn a new leaf and surrenders, everyone gathers at the monastery to celebrate. Wu invites Odette and her sister a permanent home with them
After s10 they don't get back together that quickly. Lloyd still has trust issues as in canon and Odette feels like shit believing herself to tbe the cause. Lloyd says it's not her fault, he's simply fed up with random villains coming at him for the crime of being the Chosen One.™
Odette isn't exactly let off easy by the public; there's multiple conspiracies about her and stuff and some aren't exatly forgiving her for working with a group that killed the royal family and destroyed the city. In order to redeem herself in the eyes of the public Odette starts training to become a real Ninja, doing little side missions to help people even something as simple as helping little old ladies use an escalator. Lloyd supports her every step of the way, using his popularity "and natural charisma" to dispel any rumors about her.
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olibensstuff · 1 year ago
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hi
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I want more people to talk about Usagi Yojimbo and Samurai Rabbit with.
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#AGGGG YUICHI FROM SAMURAI RABBIT SO INTERESTINGN HOLD ON LEMME TALK#no Okay I have a lot of thoughts actually#but one of them that I want to talk the most abt is how he reacted to chizu being a ninja#he was literally SO okay with it#the only time he held it over her head was when he wanted her food that she made or something in that one episode#WHICH IS SO INTERESTING#because he bases his entire life off of being a samurai like minomoto#And minomoto fought ALOT of ninjas according to him#samurai beef or something right right#but he was just like :o okay moving on ive got samurai stuff to do anyways hope chizu is alright when it was revealed#which kind of shows character development???#like when we first see him he wants to fight everyone he sees that might give him a name for himsef#and ninja is DEF in that list of things#plus her being a ninja was supposed to be this big betrayal#but he did Not care like at all he was so chill abt it#SO IT KINDA SHOWS HE LEARNED FROM THE WHOLE YOKAI THING#like how he doesn’t assume that all Yokai are bad anymore#I think he took it as something that applied to everyone#dont judge a book by its cover yknow#AND ALSO ALSO he’s so neat because he’s so talented right off the bat#And usually the hero is this aspiring newbie in western children’s shows#so him being able to go toe to toe with a Yokai that’s supposed to be unbeatable by like ep one was so cool#makes you wonder how much time and effort he put into being a samurai#like he must have bugged his aunt non stop to teach him#which is just so cute to me#Speaking of aunt#its never explained why he lived with her#like where are his parents what happened#I HONESTLY THOUGHT THEYD BRING IT UP IN THE EPISODE WHERE GENS HOUSE IS A MUSUEM AND THE YOKAI WAS PHYCOANALYSING HIM#but he’s too silly goofy for that and I care so much
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