#plus george was on the front page at some point and technically jumped to 30k for like five minutws imbetween what the stat sites pick up

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needs to be less than george's last big stream so i'm going with 20k

im not sure about that. george's stream was basically unannounced with all the same friends that are often in his streams. karls is a big event he's been hyping up for like an entire year at no end with one of the biggest spanish streamers on it. I'd prefer if it was less than georges tho.