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burirammin · 4 days ago
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Laguna Seca 2013 corkscrew overtake : Moments on track and comm quotes that made me raised my eyebrows and go 'oh, so was it building up all this time? or was it really not intentional as he said after all?' + some Marc praising as per usual
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This is whole post is just me trying to gather evidence for the sole purpose of psychoanalyzing Marc and failing spectacularly. I'm not here to answer the age old question of 'was this overtake a predetermine maneuver?' I'm just here to present the evidenceâ„¢ because honestly who knows what that man, liar extraordinaire. one of thee MotoGP unreliable narrators along side the man himself (affectionate), was thinking. And well, nothing was ever that simple anyway. Regardless, picking apart things are fun! so feels free to put your thought here cause my head is just... a void, no coherent thoughts resides here. Enjoy?
Sachsenring post-race press conference
Marc said that he had studied video of the track before arriving and will take a scooter on Thursday, which he did (video courtesy of our residential MotoGP grand scholar batsplat). He also said that he will struggle a little bit as he has never ridden there while both Cal and Vale fully expected him to be competitive.
FP1 : Going on a scooter ride at the corkscrew (will be refer as T8 from now on) with Santi on Thursday (replay)
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I've already mention it here on this post, wondering if Marc, know fan of the legend that is Valentino Rossi, was thinking about Vale's overtake on Casey from back in 2008 while riding right along the crime scene.
FP2 : Marc takes a line cutting into the kerb at T8
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"He's using the whole track, definitely including the kerbs there. Marquez, he is the fastest in this session with a 1.22.254. And you know, Cal Crutchlow said this could be sort of track that suits him. Physical. You have to be aggressive around there"
"I love your descriptions. You said, he throws it down the corkscrew. That's so right! just threw it in didn't he? that's the way he rides"
FP3 : More instance of cutting the T8 kerb + topping the session with a fun remark from Cal Crutchlow
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"Marc Marquez then, tops once more and improving once more. Cal Crutchlow said that if he was top then.. clearly meant that he had been out on a road bike here"
"He lied to all of us"
"He's a liar Tommy, yeah *laughing* right. Ah, it's another extraordinary morning for Marquez"
FP4 : Even more instance of, of course, cutting that damn kerb
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"Yeah Marquez, first look at the track was on Thursday on a scooter. So he really has done an amazing job"
"Now we was asked yesterday by Italian press about that line. He goes 'if I do go on a kerb, on the inside, it's generally a bit of mistake' However he said 'I've actually set some fast lap time on that' So it might be a line through to just run it across the inside of the kerb. And remember, Stoner found that didn't he? and Rossi said he's reminded of Stoner riding the circuit when Marc was out there and that should be a worry for the rest cause uh, Stoner won here on 3 occasions"
"Once on a Ducati and twice on a Honda didn't he?"
Q2 : Marc has a run off, completely cutting off and back into the track at T8
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"Moment in the corkscrew" "First little warning for him perhaps Ben?"(It was Ben Spies by the way. He was not racing at the moment due to injuries)
"Yeah, well they said, what? First. 'man that might have been a twenty points you know. You better do it again'"
"There we go. That was the Valentino Rossi memorial line, through the corkscrew"
"Well he's allowed there it's his first time here"
"Well. We'll give him that one he's been so impressive this weekend in this track. Can't underestimate the performance he's put in his first time at this circuit. It's just that... completely unique prospect for MotoGP"
WUP : Interesting commentary on taking a different line
"Talking about passing opportunities. Marc Marquez yesterday, was saying that what he did in Sachsenring was he practices a couple of places to overtake people during practice. He actually work on going on lines that weren't the normal line, working out where he can make passes cause he's not have race experience here. He's trying to work out the opportunity to get through. It's not an easy track to overtake on but there are places where you can get through and Marquez said he'd done that here as well. But he won't tell us where, he won't tell us what he's done, or what he's got up his sleeves"
"Can you blame him?"
"No. Not at all"
We all know what happened next in the race.
THE rosquez honeymoon happened, that is. I know this is not to discuss on that but god. All the interactions (dare I say sexual tension) during the weekend was insane, 'Marc is me, but with the upgrading' the choking in the parc ferme etc. etc. Their relationship was and is insane. Not to mention the correlation between the 2008 Laguna Seca overtake to this one to the one in 2015 Assen. Oh, we can talk about that all day long baby. It will never ends.
Okay well, I lied about having no coherent thought about this. I have one single, very non-controversial thought. The overtake itself, to me, was not intentional as Marc was ran wide (2013 Laguna Seca MotoGP Post-Race Round Up: Of Marquez' Achievements, The Legality Of The Pass, And The Lone Yamaha by David Emmett for a race recap with some pretty spicy discussions going down under the article). But did the thought of overtaking there at the corkscrew ever crossed his mind? My opinion is that it did, in a way, but not like how it actually happened and that's why he said what he said about it all.
Hmmm. Yeah. That’s about it.
Every time I think too much about Vale and Marc interactions my monkey brain immediately go too close to rpf territory and my brain just DON'T do rpf properly so this is where I stop (and why I never writen anything really. just not one of my strong suits)
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