#please do not ask questions about whether the ship is hashtag problematic they are very very very tiring as a polyamorous person.
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crimeronan · 1 year ago
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i'm always a polyshipper before anything else bc my own found/created family is a polycule & i base all my (healthy) written relationships off various irl dynamics of mine. i'm genuinely curious how opinions of my fave toh polyship skew amongst people here. answers to this poll will not change the way i post about them or how annoying i am about them though.
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parkminijiminie · 6 years ago
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You do realise at how Jm was looking at some of the better physique interviewers and talking abt Mendes happily when Jk was right there!?!?! I really think Jk deserves someone better. not someone who sees him as a "loyal subordinate" or likes him for his "mind". Jm has been so upsetting drg these interviews. Stay strong, JK! This trip will be a hard one for you.
I debated with myself whether or not I should answer this ask and to what extent as I’ve seen it going around and a lot of good bloggers have already shared their thoughts on it. But I decided that one more doesn’t hurt and repeated questions like this actually give an opportunity for the matter to be discussed from all sides. So even though I doubt you will read this, Anon, I still wanted to address it more for myself and my followers than for you. So here we go
I’ll start with a question that is bugging me quite a lot and  that I find problematic: 
Why is Jimin never enough for some people, in general and regarding Jungkook?      
When Jimin smiles a lot, you say he’s “flirting all the time” or in extreme cases that he is “a slut”. When he doesn’t smile, then “he hates America” or “hates white people”. When he shows his affection to Jungkook, posting pictures of him with special hashtags, talking about him or hugging him, you say “he is the only one who initiates things”, that JK “only tolerates him”, how “Jimin should move on”. When he is more passive and lets Jungkook be the instigator or give attention to someone else, people go “Jungkook is not special to him”, “Jimin does this to everyone”, “He is only playing with him”. Part of this fandom is never satisfied with Jimin. Either he’s giving too much or too less. Even if he just sits still and breathes people still find things to be upset about and blame him for. He just can never win. 
How can anyone even have doubts about how special Kookie is to Jimin, how adored, loved and spoiled with attention, care and affection he is by him, I will never understand. There is never an interview or a vlive nowadays where JM is not praising him; he is always the first to compliment and hype him, to push him when Kook needs it, to support him. Jungkook himself said Jimin is his biggest stimulant on and off stage. He himself specifically chose “There for you” to describe their relationship: a song about always supporting someone and them always having your back.  Are we talking about the same Jimin who didn’t leave Jungkook’s side when he almost fainted? The same person who goes most frequently to JK’s room and spends the most money on him (Jungkook’s words)? The exact same man who was ready to sleep on the floor for Kookie, who gambled his own money so that Kook doesn’t stay hungry? Do we have the same Park Jimin in mind or did some of you get confused? 
Don’t even get me started on how much compliments Jimin has said about Kookie, how much he has hugged him or touched him (on his neck, his waist, his ass, his thighs, his face etc). So much so that there are whole compilations just of him playing with Jungkook’s butt on stage at the end of DNA. JUST on stage. He is so touchy and loving with him that more often than not it looks like he can’t keep his hands to himself. I don’t know about you but it looks to me Jimin quite likes what he sees in Jungkook.
The two particular examples you give all have an explanation behind them: 
“The loyal subordinate”: a teasing comment made in the same day when coincidentally Jimin couldn’t keep his eyes off JK’s face (he scanned his features with his eyes, stopping at his lips). 
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If you look for a deeper explanation other than that JM was simply joking, then here’s one for you: For YEARS Jimin was said to be chasing Jungkook around while Kook supposedly “hated him”. Of course, we know that was never the case, they were close even before debut but people even to this day like to repeat the same old story. Jimin, being the social media king he is, is of course aware of this. Do you imagine how hard it must be to give affection to someone (who you know loves you as well) and see a thousand comments about how he hates you? Do you realize how painful it could’ve been for him to see this all over the Internet even when he knows that it’s not true? 
So from time to time he likes to remind us how special he is to the Bunny, how appreciated he is and how none of the bullsh*t is true by saying things like “Jungkookie always comes to my room”, “Jungkookie only gave a present to me”, “Jungkookie bought the tickets (for the Tokyo trip)”, “He is my loyal subordinate”. He does it to show people that JK does in fact care a lot for him and that no, their affection is not one-sided. Maybe he does it because he is aware how Jungkook struggles (or struggled) with expressing feelings with words or simply because he is happy with their close relationship and wants to boast about it. But I assure you, in no way is he treating Kook like a servant. Yeah, maybe he likes being spoiled by him but I think as much as he likes receiving, Jungkook likes giving. Example: 
JM: Jungkook will pay (for his parents’ celebration) 
JK /confidently/: I CAN do it !!! 
So, I don’t think there’s any taking advantage of anyone in this relationship. Jimin babies Jungkookie a lot and in the same time he gives him a lot of privileges. So much so that JK feels they’re the same mental age and often speaks to him informally and casually. (a big thing in SK as you all know)
“The mind” comment: First to clear things up - Jimin didn’t say “he likes Jungkook for his mind” only. He was asked to name a physical feature of Kook but he chose his mind instead. 
To me this is such a precious moment actually. Jimin’s said numerous times how attractive and sexy Jungkook is and has admired his physique. A comment about his lips or smile would be nothing new to me and wouldn’t get me so excited.  Instead of just giving a generic answer about a part of his body (which we know he appreciates, given the above examples of how much and often he touches said body), Jimin complimented Jungkook’s brain, his way of thinking, (something JK himself said he loves about his own self).  Kookie, just like Jimin, is someone who is sexualised and objectified A LOT in the fandom, even in his most vulnerable times, for example when he almost fainted. He is not really known or usually praised for his mind, rather for his body and athleticism. He is often degraded to just his looks or a shipping tool. Which makes Jimin’s comment a lot more meaningful and impactful. There’s a saying that goes well with his answer: “If you want to give a good compliment, call a person who is often regarded as beautiful smart and a person who is always praised as smart beautiful”.  Or another one, that I really like and find especially fitting: “I’m in love with your universe”. 
There’s no doubt in me whatsoever that Jimin loves Jungkook’s universe. Not just his body, or his handsome face but also his talent, his goofiness, his whole self.
Finally about JM and men in America. He complimented an admittedly gorgeous singer, he found an interviewer attractive, he smiled and giggled and was amazingly charming. All behavior that is not foreign to him. Sure, you may say he is more open and expressive but assume he truly is attracted to men. He’s a celebrity and his every action is scrutinized. Idols dating always brings scandal but being a gay/bi one is a sure way to risk your career if you get exposed. If he truly is not straight, that is a big part of himself that he must protect. He might “hide” behind fan service and skin ship but he can’t really be open about his attractions considering his status and that Korea is still homophobic. Which is why his ideal type is always a girl and why Jungkook is often referred as “his brother”. The U.S.A might not be paradise but it’s a lot more accepting and open which gives him the chance to act more like he maybe wishes he could in other countries but can’t. Hence why he may seem “wilder”, “more flirty” and etc. But why are people acting like this is the first time he found someone good looking or as if he’s offering himself to sleep with these men, is beyond me. He is just being his charming and attractive self, it’s who he is but maybe in America we see him a little bit less guarded. 
What he’s done so far is not a crime or something to be concerned about even if he is romantically involved with Jungkook. In fact anyone who has ever been in a serious relationship will tell you that you don’t just stop finding people beautiful. You still have eyes, you can still admire someone and think they are hot, you can even have innocent crushes. You’d just never do anything about those things because you’re happy with what you have. You’re only admiring. I’ve had a serious boyfriend for years and I gush about Jimin to him, sometimes I even say to him “wow, what a sexy man” or “what a pretty girl” and he to me. It doesn’t faze us that the other can appreciate beauty in another person from a distance. Beauty is beauty and that’s that. Of course these are personal examples and I can’t speak for Jimin and Jungkook but I think many people who are seriously committed will agree with me on this. 
As a conclusion what I’m trying to say is that Jimin has shown plenty of times his admiration, affection and attraction to Jungkook. In fact I’ve written a whole post about this HERE.  So there is no need to exaggerate and over dramatize. And also, please stop treating PJM like he is only looking for someone to sleep with. He might be but we don’t have a way to know. From what I see he’s just being his gorgeous self and people are bound to find him attractive and fall for him. I mean, he exudes sex appeal (and many more things) naturally so that’s a given. 
To all the Jikook shippers out there reading this (very long, sorry) answer I’ll say to consider this: Jimin may smile and giggle and raise his perfect eyebrows at anyone but there’s only one Jeon Jungkook who can turn him into a shy, flustered, blushing mess with just a simple sentence and the change of his voice’s tone.
Exhibit A: “Jimin-ssi”, “Jimin-ssi”, “Jimin-ssi” 
Exhibit B: “Where do you think you’re going?” 
Exhibit C: “Jiminie-hyung was acting”
Exhibit D: “Who’s the cake for.. I want to eat it, it looks delicious” 
Exhibit E: “I can tease Jiminie hyung to no end” 
Exhibit F: “Do you hear my heart beating?” 
I can give you an example for every letter in the alphabet, both in English and in my native language. Peace 
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47secondstoturntopage23 · 8 years ago
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In response to the current hate towards Lana Parrilla
I usually don’t make serious posts like this but I felt like I had to make this.
@ all haters- please read this before you continue to poison everyone’s feeds with annoying bs. I don’t care what you say, Lana does not deserve this crap. Here are some reasons as to why:
1. Lana was giving her opinion in terms of her character and how her character felt about Hook. She never said that she personally hated CS or Hook (though that doesn’t seem to be the main issue I’m seeing, I just wanted to make this clear) EDIT: (I have now seen a lot more of this, it’s only that at that point in time I hadn’t seen much of this from Twitter, where I got a lot of my info) 2. She did not kill SQ so shut up. She said that Hook makes Emma happy, she did not say that she had anything against SQ (in fact she’s shown a lot of support for it in the past) or even mention the SQ romantic relationship so your point is invalid (I’m also seeing people hating on SQers and can I just say- if you’re one of the few shitty SQers then you should shut up too, but if you’re not, if you’re not problematic or horrible then the majority of the fandom like you and respect you, it’s just the arseholes who spread so much hate towards you and your ship) 3. Lana said that stuff bc her “fans” were being downright RUDE. They asked her a question, she answered and she had people shouting in the crowd at her?? That’s not okay- she was asked a question, respect her answer or if you feel the desperate need to scream then please wait until they’ve finished speaking?? 4. I love the show very much but can I just say it’s FICTIONAL FGS!! STOP hating on people because of what they think- this goes for whether it’s someone posting about a ship you don’t ship or whether it’s an actor who’s character you don’t like- I don’t give a crap, if you do this then STOP. It’s a shitty thing to do so please stop spreading hate. 5. Basically, to summarise, if you hate on people because they have different opinions on a TV show to you then please do everyone a favour and shut the hell up bc we don’t want to have to listen to you or your bullshit.
EDIT: I think some people may have been offended by this post and I just want to say that I’m really sorry if you have (I think it’s some SQers (though there may be others too) who feel like I only focussed on them when it was other people too, and I can see now that from their point of view it does look like I might be attacking SQers) I wasn’t trying to focus on them, in fact the section on SQ and how it isn’t dead was made because I saw lots of tweets from other ships (I think mainly CS from what I remember but there may have been others) saying how with saying what she did, Lana had killed SQ and the people who tweeted that seemed pretty happy about that, so I thought I would address that by saying that SQ wasn’t dead and to shut up if it anyone was saying that, though now I can see how this could be seen as me being angry at SQ, which is far from true. I also didn’t mean to imply that only SQers hated Hook, and though I never said it in the text (or even mentioned Hook and SQ in the same section) I apologise again that you felt offended and I hope that you now know that I would never intentionally target a ship or make anyone feel bad, especially ships/ people who don’t deserve it. There was also a question as to why this was in the SQ tag, and I just wanted to reassure you all that I did put this in other ships tags as, again, I would never intentionally single out just one ship/ group of shippers (though I have removed it from all ship’s hashtags as I didn’t want this to happen again) . I also want to make it clear that when I mentioned the “shitty SQers”, I believed at the time that that was an important mention as I was saying for no hate towards any SQers so I wanted to make sure that I wasn’t then excusing any hate Lana did get from (what I’ve come to see, very few) SQers and did not want to make any of you feel like this was trying to pick on the SQ shippers specifically, but if this has offended you I’m sorry. I’m so sorry that any of you were offended by my post and I honestly did not mean this to come across as attacking SQ (or any other ship), I was simply saying that if you were hating on Lana then to stop, but I do understand how this could be interpreted differently than I originally thought it would be interpreted as and how it could have offended people so for that I am extremely sorry
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