#phylogenetically you're a fish

[happy-amoeba]

Hmmmmmmmm

Hey, did you know that, Phylogenetically, you and all other humans, all other mammals, in fact all vertebrates,

are

FISH?

had contractors come by and forgot i was wearing this shirt

[baddywronglegs]

"There's no such thing as a fish because you can't define it phylogenetically without also including things that aren't fish"

Man I have bad news for you about lizards. And reptiles in general. And wasps, but I guess that depends on your opinion on wasps. And I don't think you're ready for trees.

[moussygarden]

This is a blacktip reef shark. I drew it for a friend of mine . My first drawing in a while, I'm not satisfied, but not too disapointed :)

But, let me infodump.

As a french boi, I know them as "blacktip shark", and I just discovered the blacktip shark exists. Blacktip shark and blasktip reef sharks are two different speces of sharks. Carcharhinus limbatus and Carcharhinus melanopterus. We know the Limbatus one as "borded shark" in french.

Those sharks are vulnerable because of overfishing, live in coral reefs (as saif in their name), in tropical water in the indian and pacifique ocean. They eat fish, cephalopods and crustaceans. Throught my researches, I discovered they eated as well sea snakes and sea birds.

As I'm here talking about sharks (I love sharks.), thes animals are very old, phylogenetically speaking. 360 millions years ago, during the devonian period, cartilaginous fishes were already swimming in the waters of the Earth when Mammals were still tetrapodomorpha (fishes with reptiles-like formes). During the carboniferous period (the one right after devonian), they were much more various than now. Like Helicoprion (search for them on the internet, they're fantastic). during the mezosoic era, they were not as glorious as they were, because of the marine reptiles as Mosasaurus and Ichthyosaurus.

Now. We all know the megalodon. And they're from the cenozoic era, the one right after the mezosoic one, (the era we're curently in). They went extinct two millions years ago and we don't know why. Carnivorous cetacea like orcas who were starting to be more present? Climat change? Rarefication of their predilection food?

This has nothing to do with sharks, but while I was searching, I discovered PELACORNIS SANDERSI. A sea bird from the same period that Otodus megalodon (Miocene and pliocene, during the cenozoic era).

They are the biggest bird that ever lived. (birds. Which doesn't count pterodactyls, who were reptiles (the biggest was Quetzalcoatlus northropi and Hatzegopteryx thambema, 10-16m wingspan)

Nowdays, the biggest living birds are the snowy albatross and the andean condor, with a wingspan of 2.5-3m. Pelacornis were 6 to 7m.

Maybe I slightly lost control of my infodump.

This is Feldup. A french youtubeur who talks about mystery from all over the internet (mysterious stories, lost medias, icebergs of youtube and the trauma of the gen z). His videos have english sub, and I really like the way he talks and the vibe of his videos. It's scary but pleasing. And he's a very good storyteller

Beware of the TW (he montions them) and if you're as mentally unstable as I am, be careful if you watch at night <3

This is Aline Dessine! She's also a videast. Doing various content. Sims, renovation work on her BIG house, work-out, investigation over people like Amberlyn Reid, Eugenia or Connor Murphy (heart on all of them) with kindness and comprehention. I also really like her vibe. Much different from Feldup's. She's very energetic, very natural and likes to troll haters (she's amaizing). Oh and besides plants and work out, she likes her son : Pipoune, the most magestic cat you'll ever see.

I searched for her here. And all I saw was sexualized pictures... She's more than that.

The english subs are only automaticals, but they doesn't look bad, for as long as I've seen?

Thanks to her, I discovered again a videast who I was watching when I was a teenager : Jimmy.

[chuckeroo777]

Dungeon Meshi Volume 12 Part 1

We have a doozy today! Things aren't going well, but we have nine whole chapters to hopefully resolve some stuff, so let's see what happens!

Dungeon Meshi: Kabru's no good, very bad day.

Honestly wouldn't mind having a proper chapter of these three having a misadventure.

So... how do you think the anime is gonna handle Flamela (and the queen)? I feel like the obsidian skin could be read very unfavorably by the wrong audience.

I mean, Rin is admittedly a low value target, but Toshiro is prince-adjacent, and Flamela is the primary commander of the elf forces. Then again, nobody but their own squads gives a shit about these two, so...

Hard to believe, though I imagine everyone has slightly different reasons to doubt Laios' abilities.

Poor Doni and Fionil. The world's gone topsy turvy, but they still have to deal with these dang chickens.

This is what you two get for leaving the party. You get to be our baffled side characters for this arc.

So, how exactly does containing a demon work? Did they do something like Thistle, and seal the demon in an object? Did they just collapse the dungeon? Wouldn't that just let the demon slowly rebuild? How does one stop the demon without destroying it?

Or you could just say hello to that Hydra everyone ignored back in chapter 69. Seriously, let my snaky boi play.

Glad everyone is in agreement. Laios is a total weirdo, but he's a pretty great guy. (Also, don't mind Fionil having a secret character arc in the background.)

Flamela has no idea what sort of manga she's fallen into.

Flamela really just wanted an outlet for her frustration, didn't she. Seriously, I have no idea why anyone treats these elves with respect.

Gotta love how creative and cool the monsters in this manga are, and then we have... jack frosts. When I needed an ice monster to maintain an ice prison, I made Ice Vermin. They're scorpions that shoot ice. I make way too many scorpions.

An important image.

Soaring through the air with the greatest of ease.

You greatly overestimate how much of a shit Lycion gives.

I don't know what you're talking about. Deranged lisa frank is an amazing villain aesthetic.

Priorities. And once again, Laios is me with the phylogenetic corrections.

Hmm. If just a few mages can control such a heck-ton of familiars, what's stopping someone from making much bigger more powerful familiars? Why use a swarm of birds when you can have a full-sized dragon?

I also have to question how this thing pecked down a tower. That isn't a real beak. It's just a cluster of birds.

I thought you already knew that Izutsumi. Not the raw parasite thing, the Laios being an idiot thing.

I'm not entirely sure if the logic works out with how familiars work, but it sure is funny!

Ah. I see we finally reached the vore.

Also, gotta love how Marcille's ultimate monster is just sky fish, but beeg.

Looks like this might be a long session! Be back in a bit for chapter 80!

[scolopendragonfish]

I've said before that vertebrate is synonymous with fish if you're not a coward, but I think we can do even better for phylogenetic hot takes, such as:

Bilateria is synonymous with worm.

Congratulations if you're a bilateral earthling and also my friend, as you now know the answer as to whether or not I would love you if you were a worm: it is yes.

[todaysbat]

image description: white text (except the last sentence in yellow) on black background that reads: "So these pups aren't really dire wolves then? It all comes down to how you define species, says Shapiro. "Species concepts are human classification systems, and everybody can disagree and everyone can be right," she says. "You can use the phylogenetic [evolutionary relationships] species concept to determine what you're going to call a species, which is what you are implying... We are using the morphological species concept and saying, if they look like this animal, then they are the animal."

This was the same logic that led to penguins being classified as fish back in the day.

Lol. Lmao even

[rin-the-cat]

Before you come at me mansplaning phylogenetics to me, maybe you should actually know what you're talking about. I think he figured out that he was wrong because he deleted some of his comments and stopped responding.

In short. Sharks are fish. Bony fishes are not more closely related to eagles than sharks. Humans are not sharks. And you are not more closely related to your brother than you are to your great-great-great-great-great grandchild and I am so annoyed right now that I can't think about anything else.

[void-of-unparalleled-chaos]

@chaos-bringer-13 @starry-rivers

Alright so phylogenetics is the study of evolutionary history. We use these nifty things called phylogenetic trees to propose who is related to who and how closely. This is done through genetic testing (only with living species) or trait comparisons. Each tree is essentially a hypothesis (unless its utilizes actual genetics) typically backed by a good chunk of scientific data that I won't go over.

Okay so the joke was "if fish are tetrapods then does that mean chicken strips are fish sticks"

This doesn't make any sense because fish are not tetrapods? In order to be classified a tetrapod you need to have four limbs (with the exception of animals like whales and snakes that used to have them but lost them over time, they are still classified as a tetrapod). Fish are the ancestors to tetrapods but since they lack four limbs they aren't classified within tetrapoda. If you really want to stretch it, I guess you can take intermediate stages like Tiktaalik and depending on the person making the tree, they may or may not classify it as a tetrapod or a direct ancestor to tetrapoda.

In terms of classification and phylogenetic trees its just super hard to make the joke make sense. For example Whales and Hippos.

How phylogenetic tress work is that each time the branches meet there is an unknown common ancestor. Hippos and whales share a common ancestor, but they aren't one and the same. It's more like they are siblings sharing an unknown parent.

Of course there are instances where the joke could work, but it would have to be super generalized based on families rather than species. Take birds and dinosaurs.

Birds are in fact dinosaurs but not all dinosaurs are birds. Birds are the only extant (still living) family of dinosaurs, so if you're eating a chicken strip you are technically eating dinosaur meat, but you can't say chicken strips = T Rex strips because Tyrannosaurus rex is within other theropods on the above tree.

I think this tree really puts into perspective how far apart they actually are. I highlighted where Birds and Tyrannosaurus would be, but keep in mind that Tyrannosauruidae is a whole family with a ton of other species besides T.rex so the branches go even further.

Sometimes people make science jokes on here that are based on false information and I have to restrain myself from jumping in to correct it