#phobe x silas

[no-1-rosalind-lang-apologist]

that was not a joke. now is not your cue to laugh. do not pass go. do not collect $200. you are going to jail.

[no-1-rosalind-lang-apologist]

Oh I think it's going to be Silas.

At this point his cover is entirely blown. Since Dao Feng defected to the Communists, they definitely know that he's a triple agent by now since Dao Feng was his handler. In addition to knowing that Silas is a triple agent, Dao Feng also knows that Silas, Orion, and Rosalind do not suspect Phoebe at all and trust her to the point of involving her in their missions. This would lead them to the (correct) assumption that Phoebe knows that Silas's mission is to try to figure out who Priest is and hasn't really done anything about it. She also very obviously helped Rosalind and Orion much more than she had to to keep up her cover.

So. It would make sense for the Communists to tell Phoebe to kill Silas as some kind of a test of loyalty.

And to make this even better.

Oliver would be the one giving the order.

:)

I feel like Foul Heart Huntsman cannot be the finale of the secret Shanghai series if no one fakes their own death... Like come on. Someone's totally gonna fake their own death.

[no-1-rosalind-lang-apologist]

Taylor Swift Songs That Mention Cars That Are Totally About Phoebe and Silas - White Horse

say you're sorry, that face of an angel / comes out just when you need it to / as i paced back and forth all this time / 'cause i honestly believed in you

Because Phoebe and Silas are so close and have known each other for so long, Silas has likely picked up on the thing Phoebe does where she changes aspects of her personality based on who she's with, especially because I think she started to develop that a lot more during General Hong's trial, though it was definitely present while she was in London. Despite this, he probably still believes that he knows her, not just a facade that she's putting up. When Silas finds out about Phoebe being Priest, I think she's going to panic. Because I think a huge part of the reason that she changes her personality based on who she's with is her fear of losing people. And I think this is one of the bigger reasons she's trying so hard to keep her identity as Priest under wraps (I'm getting this from the end of the scene where Oliver and Celia break into Rosalind and Orion's apartment). Based on this, I think if Silas were to confront her about being Priest, she might panic and try to tell him what he wants to hear. And I think Silas would likely pick up on this if she were to do that and start to wonder how much she has been lying to him.

stupid girl, i should've known, i should've known

I think Silas will blame himself for not realizing that Phoebe is Priest quite a bit. I think he'll feel ridiculous for ever thinking that he ever really knew her beyond the front that she's putting up. He's going to feel really used. He let her know crucial details about his assignments all while likely picking up on a lot of stuff she was clearly hiding from him (ex: the gun in tpats). Not going to be a great time for him.

that i'm not a princess, this ain't a fairytale

In this song, Taylor Swift alludes to common fairytale characters and tropes to contrast the way she naively idolized her idea of a romantic relationship with the actuality of how one ended. This connects with the way that Silas has idolized Phoebe and ignored her faults, seeing her as more of an idea than a person and how that view of her will be shattered when he finds out that she's Priest.

now it's too late for you and your white horse / to come around

In the alternate reality dimension where Phoebe and Silas don't end up together, this is Silas saying that Phoebe has irreparably broken his trust, and it's too late for her to try and fix what she's done.

maybe i was naive, got lost in your eyes / and never really had a chance / well, my mistake, i didn't know to be in love you had to fight to have the upper hand

Again, Silas is likely going to naive and used when he realizes that Phoebe is Priest. I think he's going to doubt that their relationship was ever anything more than her manipulating him.

i had so many dreams about you and me / happy endings, now i know

Silas has loved Phoebe since they were very young. (I think that Phoebe has loved him since they were very young as well but has a harder time admitting it to herself for a number of reasons.) I think he could come to the conclusions that his dreams were unrealistic, ridiculous, and naive, at least for a little bit in FHH. We know they will get their happy ending, but I don't think it's going to be the ideal perfect relationship with zero problems that has been in Silas's head for years. I think he's going to start to see a more complete picture of Phoebe, including her faults, and love her more for it. And I think this is going to help him learn to stand on his own more. And be a more complete person, regardless of whether Phoebe is there or not. And I think their ending will be much happier for it.

and there you are on your knees / beggin' for forgiveness, beggin' for me / just like i always wanted / but i'm so sorry / 'cause i'm not your princess, this ain't our fairytale

Okay. So on the tiny chance that we are right about the potential "we have never been real" "we were to me" scene parallel, this would likely be the first time Phoebe has ever come anywhere close to directly admitting her feelings for Silas to him. And I think that if this scene were to happen and I am right about Silas's reaction to Phoebe being Priest and how that could potentially change his perception of her, I think that her finally admitting her feelings to him in this context could make him think that even if what she's saying is true, it means very little for her to be saying it to stop him from leaving. And he is no longer willing to blindly believe her and go along with whatever she's saying just for the hope of being included.

i'm gonna find someone someday / who might actually treat me well

Okay hear me out. It would be funny. Obviously painful to read. But funny. If Silas rebounded for 0.0000567896 seconds in FHH. And had a little bejeweled era. Because I support pettiness. And with the multiple povs the whiplash you would get from jumping from Alisa and Roma reuniting or something to Silas rebounding would be absolutely insane and very funny. I do not think this is actually going to happen at all. However, I don't have direct evidence that it won't happen, and I think it would be funny. But painful.

this is a big world, that was a small town / there in my rear-view mirror disappearing now

Obviously Shanghai is not a small town. But this is the obligatory car line. It is also representative of outgrowing childhood and experiencing the complexities of the real world, which often don't line up with the perfect idolized scenarios you come up with when you don't know better.

[typingwithmyhandstied]

Ooooh yes. That makes sense. You are very clever. Also that smiley face at the end is killing me (mostly of laughter but still).

I've actually never thought before about how Phoebe has probably gone beyond what she needed to do to maintain her cover, and that the communists might not trust her for that reason. Thank you for opening me up to this idea. I'm trying to collect theories because FLF caught me off guard, and I am determined to try to guess what will happen in FHH.

Assuming all of this happens, this poses two things to think about:

1. Does Oliver know that Phoebe is Priest even if he's her handler?

2. In this situation, would Phoebe be forced to reveal her identity to Silas instead of him finding out (I don't really care because either is drama/entertaining)? I would LIKE to believe that Phoebe couldn't kill Silas... She probably couldn't...

I would love it if this situation led to Phoebe faking Silas' death because chaos, and that would make her eventually maybe meeting Juliette even funnier.

I feel like Foul Heart Huntsman cannot be the finale of the secret Shanghai series if no one fakes their own death... Like come on. Someone's totally gonna fake their own death.