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nerdylittleshit · 8 years ago

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That isn’t love - False love as a theme in season 12 (and what it might mean for Mary)

After the otherwise mediocre 12x13 I’ve seen some discussion on my dash about both Mary’s use of the words “I love you” and “family”, and how in the context of her betrayal they felt wrong (the posts in question can be read here and here; also tagging @mittensmorgul, @elizabethrobertajones and @k-vichan because this might be of interest to you). This reminded me of a theme I have noticed during season 12 and that I wanted to write about for a while now: false love. Turns out in this case it was good I was to lazy to write it earlier because with a couple more episodes under its belt it is clearer now where the season might be headed with this theme.

But before we look at season 12 we have to (shortly) look back at season 11, where the theme with false love started, represented by Amara’s bond with Dean. All through the season the connection between them was an important theme and made us wonder what exactly it is between them. Right from the start Amara told Dean that they are bound and that they are unable to hurt each other, which is proven numerous times during the season. Whenever Amara is near Dean he is under her spell, unable to control himself. The bond between them becomes the notion to be romantic after 11x09, when she kissed him. But she also tells him that she can’t be resisted and wonders why Dean doesn’t want to become one with her. It is very clear that her hold on Dean, his inability to resist her, is the very reason the bond between them can’t be defined as love. Dean has no choice when it comes to her, he can’t give consent. He even says so in 11x13.

DEAN: Standing here right now, every bone in my body wants to run her [Amara] through. Send her back to that hole she crawled out of. But when I’m near her, I don’t know. Something happens and I can’t explain it, but to call it desire or love…it’s not that.

It isn’t until 11x23 though that it becomes clear why Amara was so fascinated by Dean, why she wanted to consume him and become one with him. Because in the end it is clear that Dean was nothing more than a stand-in for the one she really loved, the one she wanted back: her brother Chuck (see also the million parallels that have been established between Dean and Chuck in the later half of season 11).

DEAN: You don't want to be alone. Not really. I mean, hell. Maybe that's why you wanted me. But deep down, you didn't really want me... 'cause I'm not Him [Chuck].

Amara confused the platonic love for her brother with a romantic love for Dean. In the end she assumed that what was missing in Dean’s life, the void he felt, was a missing family member as well, his mother, so she gave her back to him.

Even though Dean’s bond with Amara has been painted as romantic, as one of love and desire, her actions showed that she had no real concept for (human) love. And Dean’s response clearly showed that he didn’t love her in return. Even then I wondered if this representation of false love was meant to show us the difference to real love then. And it is interesting that the only time we saw Dean breaking free from Amara’s hold was 11x06 when Sam was in danger and in 11x18 when Cas was in danger, both people he actually loves and cares about.

The theme of false love continues in season 12, with numerous examples in the motw-episodes. Again I feel they serve to show us the difference when it comes to real love. Unlike other seasons though I feel that in season 12 it is neither Sam or Dean who carry out the emotional arc, but rather Mary and Cas. Both start the season at a similar place: they wonder where or if they belong in the Winchester family, that is in Sam and Dean’s unit. Both think the other has more right to be there. For Cas it is because Mary is their actual blood, their mother. But Mary recognizes the history between Cas and her sons, the way they act like a family around each other, a family by choice. Which is why she calls Cas one of her boys in 12x12: if Sam and Dean are her family then so is Cas.

This question of belonging is tied together with the question how each member of the family (Sam, Dean, Cas & Mary) define “love” and “family”. Whereas Cas’s arc seems (temporarely) resolved by 12x12, Mary’s arc continues. But before we get to those characters in specific, let’s take a closer look at the examples of false love we had this season.

12x04:

Right after Mary’s first “I love” to her sons in 12x03 (while saying goodbye) we visit the Petersons. They are a very religious family, who live off the grid. We are meant to believe they let her daughter Magda die, after she was ill with pneumonia and they refused to see a doctor, leaving her daughter’s life in God’s hands. As it later turns out they actually held her as a prisoner because she was a psychic who couldn’t controll her powers (and did by accident hurt/kill innocents). After Sam found out about it Gail, the mother, tries to poison her family, believing this was the only way they could stay together as family, entering heaven together. None of these actions are acts of love, even though Gail claims the opposite. It is worth noticing that the false love here is represented by a mother and her daughter and that Sam of course is heavily paralled with Magda.

12x05:

After telling Sam and Dean about his father’s plan to bring back Hitler to life Commandant Nauhaus orders to let his son Cristopher to be killed. Another parent is willing to kill its child, after the child failed to fit in their worldview.

12x08:

The whole relationship between Vince (now possesed by Lucifer) and Rosaleen has been messed up from the start. Rosaleen claims that she always has and always will love Vince, despite actually knowing him. She is in love with the image he created as a rockstar, the persona he acted out in public life, not the man himself (which is why she can’t tell that something is wrong with him). Lucifer realizes what her love actually is: devotion. And in his twisted way he asks her how far she is willing to go for him.

VINCE/LUCIFER: How much do you love me? What would you do to show me? [...] Would you bleed?

But Lucifer doesn’t care about humans, he never did. He realized that (rock)stars are the new Gods these days, but what he wants from them is not real love but self-sacrifice, to see how much power he has over them. The only love he ever felt was towards his father, who (assumingly) loved his creation, humanity, more and cast him down. Even after their reconcilation in season 11 God left him again, making Lucifer believe that his words had no real meaning if he doesn’t act like it.

VINCE/LUCIFER: [...]He [God] needed my help, and he'd say anything to get it. His words, your words, they mean nothing. Don't you get it? This is all meaningless. Heaven, Hell, this world. If it ever meant anything, that moment is past. Nothing down here but a bunch of hopeless distraction addicts, so filled with emptiness, so desperate to fill up the void…

12x08:

Another time Lucifer, this time as President Rooney, uses the love of a woman for his own needs. We can assume that Kelly, unlike Rosaleen, felt genuine love towards the President. This makes the betrayal of trust and consent Lucifer commits even harder. Kelly believes at first her pregnancy is an act of love, whereas for Lucifer it is yet another way to gain power and controll. But even after finding out the truth about her child Kelly refuses to let anyone harm her/them, making it seem that her motherly love is as real as her love for her partner was.

12x10:

In this episode we see various examples of relationships between humans and angels. Whereas it is clear that the love between Benjamin and his vessel, Akobel and Lily/humanity in general and between Cas and the Winchesters (but especially Dean) is genuine, the love between Ishim and Lily wasn’t. It is this false love that leads to the murder of a child, that sets Lily’s plan for revenge in motion.

LILY: Ishim, what have you done? ISHIM: Oh. What have you done? I shared all of our secrets with you, taught you all of our ways for your precious studies. I... I loved you. LILY: You didn't love me. You were obsessed with me. That isn't love. ISHIM: I loved you. You threw me away for him [Akobel].

[...]

ISHIM: No. You broke my heart, Lily. Now I'm gonna break yours.

The love, or rather obsession, Ishim felt for Lily wasn’t returned. Throughout the show of course the question was aked several times if angels are meant to love, to feel. In 7x21 Dean tells Kevin that he thinks angels aren’t mean to care, that if they do it breaks them (seeing as Cas was “broken” back then). As early as season 4 we learn that among angels emotions are seen as doorways to doubt (4x16), leading to questioning their orders. In 10x07 Hannah gave up her vessel, as she realized the (human) emotions don’t belong to her and that angels aren’t made for them. In 12x10 now we learn that the most sacred oath for angels is not to lie with a human. Ishim tells Cas that is not the angels who are dangerous to the humans, but the other way around, as humans compromise angels.

And yet we have seen that angels are capable of real emotion, of love, towards humans. The most clear example on the show is the relationship between Cas and the Winchesters. In this episode alone we see them acting like a family, trying to protect each other, or in other words acts of love. Seeing these acts gives the words of Cas’s love declaration in 12x12 then more weight.

12x13:

The last example of false love, this time between Rowena and Crowley. After sending Gavin back to his time (and to his death) we learn that Rowena didn’t act out of love (because sometimes loving someone means to let them go and accept their choices) but because she wanted revenge for Oskar, the child she loved more than her own son and that she was forced to kill in 10x23. For Rowena loving someone means to be weak; her love for Oskar was used to controll her. In 11x10 she confessed the reason why she hates her son.

ROWENA: I hate you, because if I didn't, I'd love you. But love... love is weakness. And I'll never be weak again.

Rowena’s relationship to Crowley isn’t another example of false love because she never pretended to love him in the first place. But it is yet another example of a dysfunctional parent-child-relationship.

Now what do these examples of false love mean regarding Cas and Mary? I think they are here to illustrate how in contrast real love looks like. Like I wrote before I think Cas’s arc is as by 12x12 resolved. Upon thinking he will die he confessed his love to the Winchesters and accepted his place among their family.

CASTIEL: No, you listen to me. You-- Look, thank you. Thank you. Knowing you, it… it’s been the best part of my life. And the things that… the things we’ve shared together, they have changed me. You’re my family. I love you. I love all of you.

Unlike Mary Cas has been around for 8 years and we saw the evoltution of his relationship to both Winchesters. We don’t question if the love he feels is real, because we saw him act on it plenty of times. Castiel earned his place in this family. He earned his right to say these words. And by the way Sam and Dean reacted we know his love his returned.

It might be also worth noticing the last and only other time Cas spoke of love: it was during his time as God at the end of 6x22/the beginning of 7x01.

CASTIEL:[...]I'm your new God. A better one. So you will bow down and profess your love unto me, your Lord. Or I shall destroy you.

[Bobby, Sam & Dean kneel down]

CASTIEL: Stop. What's the point if you don't mean it? You fear me. Not love, not respect, just fear.

Unlike Lucifer as a God/rockstar Cas wanted genuine love from his (former) family, not devotion. His actions as God though weren’t out of love though, but based on the misguided believe to know better and to gain power and controll as well. Which is why Sam, Dean and Bobby feared him, but didn’t love him. We have come a long way.

Mary on the other hand is still on this journey. As @mittensmorgul noticed she uses the words “I love you” quite liberally. This of course is in stark contrast to how often Sam and Dean (and Cas) use these words: almost never. In season 12 so far we have heard Mary telling her sons “I love you” three times (12x03, 12x09, 12x13) and texting it at least once (12x04). We haven’t heard her sons saying it back though. What is interesting are also the circumstances when she told them.

We hear her first “I love you” in 12x03. She says so after she told them that she has to leave them.

DEAN: Mom, it's okay. All right? You're home now.

MARY: No. I'm not. I miss John. I miss my boys.

SAM: We're right here, mom.

MARY: I know. In my head. But I'm still mourning them as I knew them. My baby Sam. My little boy Dean. Just feels like yesterday, we were together in heaven, and now...I'm here, and John is gone, and they're gone. And every moment I spend with you reminds me every moment I lost with them. And I thought hunting, working, would clear my head.

SAM: Mom...w-what are you trying to say?

MARY: I have to go. I'm sorry. I'm so...so sorry. I just need a little time. I love you. I love you both.

Mary tells them she has trouble connecting the adult men in front of her with the little children she left behind. She needs time and space to mourn them. The question is then if her “I love you” was directed to the men in front of her (who are still strangers to her) or to the children she once had. Why we wouldn’t question the love she felt for her family in 1983 the question is if she can love her adult sons the same way. The next “I love you” appears in 12x09. Mary, just as Cas in 12x12, says it as a goodbye, as she is about to sacrifice herself for her sons. We can say that sacrificing yourself is the Winchester way of saying “I love you”. They might have trouble using the “l”-word but they have no problem saying they would die for the other and doing so (and this includes Cas as well). The willingness to sacrififice yourself is what shows us the goodness of a character (Meg redeemed herself through her sacrifice in 8x17) and the depths of their love. Mary of course did already die for her sons, in 1x01. But it is only now after her resurrection that she can fully understand the consequences of the deal she made in 4x03, that not only led to her death, but made Sam to a psychic/Lucifer’s perfect vessel and were the reason her sons grew up as hunters, the very thing she never wanted for them. The deal her sons made with Billie in 12x09 are a result of the lives they have; Mary feels responsible for it. Her sacrifice is based on her guilt. I do think her willingness to sacrifice herself was an act of (genuine) love. It is worth noticing though that the willingness to give up everything (including your own life) for your children’s happiness and safety is a forced way of thinking in our society. Parents, and more specifically mothers, are judged by their willingness to do these sacrifices. Your children always comes first, and if you don’t act like this, you are a bad parent. I think the absoluteness of this way of thinking can be dangerous. Of course John’s constant neglect is a contrast to that (and while his sacrifice in 2x01 came from a place of love as well it didn’t redeem his neglect in the twenty-something years before). But it is important that in 12x13 Mary points out that yes, she is mother, but she is not just that (and her function as a mother is different because her children are adults now). I think it is hard to place Mary’s “I love you” and her almost sacrifice in 12x09. They come from a place of love. But I think in part her actions are also based on guilt and obligation. In the end it is not Mary but Cas who does the sacrifice, as he is fully aware that breaking the deal and the cosmic consequences might result in his death. Mary says the words and is willing to do the act (of self-sacrifice) but in the end Cas actions and words have more weight. And this brings us to 12x13. We hear Mary telling Dean she loves him on the phone, after lying to him about her wherebouts. Even more so, the next thing we hear after Mary’s “I love you” is Mr. Ketch telling her she is an exellent liar. This makes us wonder if the “I love you” was a lie as well, or at least an attempt to lull Dean in a false sense of security. Dean “I lie professional” Winchester can already tell after their conversation that something is wrong with his mother and that she might be hiding someting. The episode ends with Mary coming clean to her sons and telling them the truth about her working together with the British MoL. Upon learning that her mother lied to them for the past few months Dean and Sam question their whole (still fragile) relationship with her mother. Though they don’t say it they might, just as the audience, wonder how real her “I love you”s were. Though we are not only meant to question the defintion of “love” but of “family” as well.

DEAN: So where does that leave us?

MARY: Same as always. Family.

Sam and Dean of course have a long history of defining for themselves what it means to be a family. The most accurate defintion is still the one Dean told Crowley in 10x17.

DEAN: A wise man once told me, 'family don't end in blood.' But it doesn't start there either. Family cares about you, not what you can do for them. Family's there; for the good, bad, all of it. They got your back, even when it hurts. That's family.

The fact that Mary is blood doesn’t make her family (the same way Samuel never became part of their family just because he was blood). Sam and Dean’s love and trust is placed on what little they know about their mother: the way Dean remembers her and of course her sacrifice for her family. They accepted that Mary needed time and space to adjust to everything that has changed since her death. She didn’t acted the way they expected/hoped for, but then again her children don’t need her in the way they did when they were actually kids. They loved her in advance you might say, or based on the same obligation she felt towards them (mothers are supposed to love their children, children are supposed to love their mothers). Her betrayal is what stops this love/ way of thinking. I think both sides have realized by now that “family” and “love” means nothing if we don’t act on it. I still believe that Mary’s decision to work with the MoL comes from a place of love (to create a safer world for her sons, to give them the normal life she always wanted for them). 12x14 showed us that even if they don’t agree Sam and Dean might understand better now why she did it. If anything they realized they have to rebuild their relationship. They have to give their words and actions meaning (the way Cas did). And it doesn’t happen overnight. Instead of clinging to the memories of how their family once was they need to create new memories. I am hopefull that they can still get there. And that in time Mary’s “I love you” will gain the same weight as Cas’s had in 12x12.

#supernatural #spn meta #spn season 12 #mary winchester #spoilers #my meta #season 12 #the foundry #american nightmare #the one you've been waiting for #lotus #rock never dies #first blood #lily sunder has some regrets #stuck in the middle (with you)#family feud

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jane--thors · 5 years ago

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first draft of backstory plot points

Sozen looses Rokku to and incident in the ///// air temple and reflexivity blames the air nomads as a whole in his grief.

The two were dancing around each other but any chance for them dissipated into ash when Rokku found out Sozen was militarizing the fire nation in an effort to combine the nations under his own rule and the two fought bitterly.

Rokku leaves for the /// air temple that day on a ship leaving his dragon with Sozen’s{the dragons were a mated pair} thus leaving a sliver of a chance for the two in Sozen’s mind.

This hope is dashed when Rokku dies in an accident two days after leaving Sozen.

As Sozen is planning how he will react to this development his body go's weak and his mind go's numb and fuzzy [like it was just before and during the fight he had with Rokku].

Then Sozen vanishes from the public view for a week

[the public worry that the grief will best him]

[no one is allowed into the throne room as Sozen doesn't want them to see that the rooms cold blue fire (a sign of Agnis approval) had gone out the night Sozen found out about Rokku’s death

During this week Sozen hires 4,000 disgraced/banished Dai Le assassins (loyal only to coin) and begins sending them out to poision the dragons withen the borders of the fire nation[Sozen’s die first and Rokku’s is sent into a coma]{90% of ALL dragons live withen the borders of the fire nation}

withen two months of Rokku’s death the last dragon withen the nation is rokkus

Rokku’s dragon is extremely weak and when the public go’s to the palace for help they find Sozen cradling the dragons head in his lap. The dragon is weak ans has shrunk drastically and is barely breathing. The public is shocked to find the Sozen’s dragon is dead and that a second ROYAL dragon is dying and quickly realize that the fire lord can do nothing for his own dragon much less theirs or the wild ones and are left to watch as to their horror the last dragon within the borders of the fire nation takes its last breath.

Sozen PERSONALLY and PUBLICLY cremates the dragon and sits vigil for a WEEK.

SOMETHING UNHEARD OF FROM A FIRE LORD AS ITS USUALLY ONLY ONE DAY AND DONE BY THE SUN PRIESTS AS ITS SEEN AS BENEATH THE ROYAL FAMILY TO NEAL IN THE DIRT{REQUIRED FOR SITTING VIGIL}.

Then Sozen disapears into the palace

The next day the outer wall of the throne room is pulled away revealing Sozen sitting on the throne behind a wall of HOT RED fire.

Agnis is blue and cold but the public assumes that the color and heat show Agnis rage over the loss of his favorite children {the dragons} [the public dosnt know that there are dragons out side the fire nation as they are tied to the ]]]]]]]] air nomads and a deeply gaurded secret]

then Sozen adresses the public

{royals, nobls, ambassadors, state oficials, city officials, colony representitives, tribal leaders, and as many citizens that can fit in the streets are in attendence}

[the sun priests are blatently missing comething that makes EVERYONE uncomfertable but no one dares mention or question it]

Sozen then addresses those in attendenceand explains that:

the air nomad had killed rokku so that they could gain an avatar of their own and use them to gain control

however when the child was awoken they remembered their life as rokku and refused to do as he was told

the child tried to escape the air nomads and was beaten chained and locked away {the poor child barley knew air bending how could he defen himself}

the air nomads in their rage hired assassins and sent them after the dragons to further weaken the nation that JUST lost rokku

Those gathered are so enraged by the loss of rokku and the dragons that they believe it desperate for an enemy to fight

Those gathered begin to demand the air nomads be punnished and that sozen save the young avatar as rokku could not do so

Sozen ‘bows to what his people want’ and declares war on the ///// air nomads

first he bannishes the ambassadors from the nation.

The earth and water ambassadors leve without incident not beleiving sozen’s claims or that he will ACTUALLY rage war on the momads and actually forget about the declaration and the reasons before they get home, to focussed on how to save the internation trading

the air nomad ambassadors dont even make it out of the nation

the official story is that they escaped their gaurds and ran to the tratoris sun priests and they were all dead of suicide when the gaurds caught up

the air nomad ambassadors were poisioned by their dai le gaurds

the sun priests were killed by more dai le as they would have known what the throne rooms fire color and heat meant{that the fire lord had lost agnis blessing}

four months later sozen personally escorts the 2,000 of his ‘most suited’ men{most creul} soldiers out of the fire nation (4,000 dai le meet them once their out of sight {sozen wants it to be believed that only 2,000 men and himself were needed as they had agnis blessing}) and they arive to the //// air temple two days later

on arriving the 6,000 men and women loyal to sozen immeadiatly put every man woman and child to death save for two individuals

salah {a 17 year old female airbender} and aang {a 12 year old male avatar}

aang ~12~ had ran away the night before

sozen takes salah~12~ captive {using dai le drugs to keep herblocked from her bending}

on the ship back all 4,000 dai le die when sozens men poison their food their bodies are dumped overboard

sozen and the 2,000 soldiers arrive home and go to the palace{salah~12~ is put in a locked roome eight floors underneath sozens personal rooms}

sozen calls another meeting

the royals, nobles, state officials, city officials, colony representatives, tribal leaders, and as many citizens that can fit arrive withen hours

sozen breaks the news that the child avatar wasnt at the temple and that he is either dead or at another temple and swaers to find the trueth before making a hand motion and the palace servents bring out a feast fit for the fire lord himself {identical meals and leters covering the speachare sent to every single citizen who could not arrive}

he stays until the feast ends and sends everyone home

then sozen uses dai le tactics {drug mix and lights}to convince salah~17~ that:

she is a fire nation native

that she and sozen have a history of close freindship

that the air nomads tortured for being born in the fire nation and daring to come to them for training

that sozen had found and rescued her when he came looking for the avatar

the sozen moves her to the room next to his own and warns her that with the anger the fire nation has against the air nomads that she should hide her bending, she agrees.

Then he continues his war and at night he invites her to sit with him as he handles ‘nation buissness’ {food, territory lines, trade routes, ect} and begins to court her

she agrees to marry him after he asks her to do so {he claims he hopes itll help keep her safe from fire nation and air nation alike}

shes given the tyitle of royal concubine instead of fire lady to keep the fire nation nobles from complaining to much

the night of their wedding;

sozen sires a child with salah~17~ {a boy who will be born 7 moths later in the middle of a monsoon and be named Azulon}

a battalion of 4,000 man and women are sent out in secret to the ]]]]]] air temple to wipe out those air nomads

however this batallion betrays sozen and jointhe air nomads

They send letters to the other nation telling them of the air temple attacks {a fire nation scout intercepts them and reads the one ment for the southern water tribe and alerts sozen early the next morning

sozen tells the scout to wait until he is given word to send the letters to their intended recipients and settles in to wait

two months later the painted ladies comet comes into range and sozen chanels it to single handidly wipe out every man woman and child in the ]]]]]]] air temple {fire benders air benders and non benders alike}

unlike all of her other channelers the painted lady does not allow sozen to take her marks {she couldnt stop him from using her comets power}

five moths later salah~17~ gives birth to azulon but tragically dies and takes sozens unborn daughter azulons sister with her.

In his pain and rage {he had fallen in ‘love’ with salah} sozen raises azulon to hate anyone not firenation

oddly as azulon grows in size and strength sozens rage fades and just after azulon turns 19 sozens mind clears fully for the first time in years.

He is DISGUSTED with his actions and confused as to how he could have done such things.

He is terrerfied of the implications of his actions being SO disconnected from his mind and ideals.

He pretends he is stil under the influence of WHATEVER that was and in private he begins to research.

He finds that some sun preists had avoided the massacre and were nearby

he goes into the throne room and tells everyone hes going to commune with agni for guidence{the fire is still red agni must still be angry and he needs to know whats wrong} and forbids enyone from even aproaching that wing of the palace [sending azulon into town to meet a trade delegation from the colonies {to teach him to care for his citizens} hell be gone for weeks]

then he secrets himself away and meets with the preists who examine him and find out that tttttt,

{agnis enemy a mortal who had consumed vvvvv’s [tu/seas/ siter goddess of lightning and is agnis wife] mortal form and stole her abilities locking her mind into a stone he hid in the south pole. Ttttttt had died but managed to evade agni in the spirit realm for centuries [that time had twisted what was left of his sanity]}

had possesed him as a teen and had slowly gained control and then after rokkus death full control

then tttt had used sozen to capture salah and combined their blood to form a proper host

however he could only plant the seed he couldnt posess the babe until it took its first breath and he couldnt further influence the pregnancy to busy pulling his sozen puppets strings and thus couldnt stop vvvv from creating her own human host

he could however ensure that host never took a breath thus destoying vvvvs ability to do so {she can still bless a child but she can do little more then that and ttttt/azulon still controls her element [though the element itself fights back the lightning burning him when he forces it to obey him] much to her rage}

salah was a decendent of tttt/azulons origional human body and sozen had power

ttt/azulon also used sozen:

to destroy the strong skilled battle tested avatar {hopeingto stael the avatar spark from the next avater {an untrained weak child} much like he did to vvvv

and to destroy agnis blessed people{the fire nation} by turning the other nations against them

with ttttt/azulon in human form and 19 and strong and a gigantic threat sozen is advised to take precautions before going against him in a fight by the sun priests

first he writes ALL of this down and locks the scrolls into a smal chest that only one with agnis aproval {lightning and blue fire or duel bending of fire and water} can open [the chest will at a touch tell them how to open it]

luckily tttt/azulon cant see this as he is now more or less trapped in his human body

then he rushes back to the palace and hides the chest in the palace

then he writes out his last will and testament disowning ttt/azulon

then he calls ttt/azulon back to the palace {its an emergency}

then he tries to kill ttt/azulon~19~

sozen fails unable to kill salahs child {he did truly love her even with them both twisted by tttt} and falls at ttt/azulons hand

then he hides sozens last will and testament {right beside sozens chest ironically}

the next day tttt/azulon~19~ is crowned fire lord

he convinces the public that sozen was murdered by an assassin and he would find out the trueth but leaves it vauge

things become stabile but tense

tttt/azulon increases the army size and adds a spy ring to ‘track down the contractor of sozens assassin’

this fire nation becomes far more militirised

the scout that caught the traitor soldoers letters gos to tttt/azulon and asks what he should do with them tttt/azulon takes them and will use them later

however there is a problem

when ttttt became human again to escape agnis reach he didn’t know the CONSEQUENCES of his actions

the longer tt/azulon is human the more he forgets his history as ttt and as a spirit

when ttt/azulon was crowned he refused to take a wife or concubine as he knows that the combination of his bodies bloodline [fire bending and blessed by Agni from Sozen’s line and air bending and a royal line from Salahs] and his status as a body-anchored-spirit would cause any child he sired {by any partner} to be a FLASHPOINT {someone whos child would be a pivit point in history} [also any of his bodies grandchildren could ‘steal’ his power {vvvvv’s lightning} as vvv could still bless that child and the blessing would tie the power to the child and when ttt/azulons body dies the power would stay with the child not with tttt’s spirit.

But as the years pass and tttt/azulons memory of being tttt fades he forgets why he didnt want a spouse or children

eventually at 48 he caves to his advisors and weds rita~19~ [a noble woman daughter of one of his advisors] and at the end of that year rita~20~ gives ttt/azulon a son, iroh

just five years later rita~25~ gives tttt/azulon a second son, ozai [making iroh~5~ a big brother], but sadly rita~25~ dies in her birthing bed {oddly a LOT of the mothers of the fire lords heirs die in this mannor no one knows why}

for the next twelve years ttt/azulon~53-65~ raises iroh~5-17~ and ozai~0-12~ to be the perfect soldiers and hate everyon outside of the fire nation

fostering hatred against the fire nation

when iroh turns 17 a dragon is discovered and the public has a breif glimmer of hope only for it to be dashed when tttttttt/azulon~65~ explains that it isnt a real dragon but a monstor made by the last of the air nomads and sun priests and orders its death {it has no fire so it CANT be a child of agni} and the public demands that these ABOMINATIONS be exterminated

ttt/azulon agrees to do so

that year ttt/azulon~65~ marries iroh~17~ to vihanni~22~ [irohs best friend] and after the wedding he begins sending soldiers after the false dragons

by the end of that year onley 12 false dragons are dead and so is vihanni [she died a week after giving iroh a son, luten {thought to be birth fever but ttt/azulon~66~ poisioned her once iroh~17~ had a son and heir and she was no longer needed and she was a threat [she had started to make moves against tttt/azulon~66~] to ttt/azulons rule}]

three years after LuTen’s~3~ birth azulon[ttt is gone in memory]~69~ begins to look for a proper wife for ozai~15~ {since iroh’s~20~ line is already secure} and in his search he finds out that rokkus daughter, Asaso had wed a man, Demi and had a daughter, Urza[a girl of just 9].

Azulon~69~ tries to convince Urza’s~9~ parents to send the girl to the palace where she could grow up beside Ozai~15~ and to agree to the two being wed when Urza~9~ turns 17.

Asaso~21~ and Demi~19~ panic as Urza~9~ is a WATERBENDER and Azulon~69~ has recently begon sending troops to the water tribes {looking for the avatar so they could be ‘protected’[azulon wants him dead] form whatever air benders remain[their arnt any] in hiding} and takeing waterbenders captive {they dont know where they are or if their alive} ans flee the fire nation afraid of what azulon~69~ will do to urza~9~.

The trio makes their way to the southern water tribe hopeing for amnesty on a stolen fire nation ship but just a day out from shore a storm hits the ship

the ship is torn apart and Asaso and Demi are killed

urza~9~ washes ashore a day later half frozen only alive due to her bending {and tu and lies blessing}

she is found hours later by hoddick~22~ and his wife kana~24~

the couple takes her in {and some of her things that washed ashore beside her}

they dont tell anyone of her as they saw the fire nation sails

when urza~9~ wakes they find out that she is fire nation yes but shes a water bender

kana~24~ is afraid of how people will react and decides that she and hoddick~22~ will claim her as their own {they tell all but their imeadiate family that she was their daughter, kya’s~13~ twin sister that was born weak and sickly you see thats why shes so small and pale and we hid her away to avoid heartbreak if she were to die}

the girls know their not blood but that they are sisters all the same and raised as such

{kana~24~ makes a copy of her bethrothal stone{chain itself is the proposal while the stone was a heirloom of kanas family} and puts it on a chain identical to the one iiii gave her, then each necklace went to each of her daughters {kya~13~ gets the origional necklace and the copy stone while urza~9~-13-{{now ursa[zaa vs sa-ha}} gets the origional stone and the copy necklace} [the stones are slightly different and distinct from each other for those who know what their looking for]

she does this to tie them together as sisters

hoddick~22~ also teaches ursa~9~-13- to bend {even blood bending something his wife knows and approves of due to the constant threat of fire nation raides}

kya~13~ though not a bender memorizes the lessons and writes them all down

ursa~9~-13- also meets hakoda~4~ and bato~~9~ and the three and kya~13~ are IMMEADIATLY close friends and inseperable regardless of their age differences

six years pass

[Azulon~75~], [Iroh~26~], [Ozai~21~], [LuTen~9~], [Urza~15~ Ursa-19-], [Kya~19~], [Bato~15~], [Hakoda~10~], [Hoddick~28~], [Kana~30~], and {Aang~12~frozen}

ozai takes over azulons search for urza as he belives she is the one he is fated to be with and his only chance for love

iroh takes to hunting the false dragons

hakodas parents begin asking kana and hoddick to allow the boy to court kya or ursa when he turns 17

four more years pass

[Azulon~79~], [Iroh~30~], [Ozai~25~], [LuTen~13~], [Urza~19~ Ursa-23-], [Kya~23~], [Bato~19~], [Hakoda~14~], [Hoddick~32~], [Kana~34~], {Aang~12~frozen}, and [Haki~72]

azulon sends another raid to the southern water tribe during a kkkkk eclipse not knowing urza is there only that the water benders wont have accsess to their bending

hoddick and ursa are captured by the soldiers kya never forgives herself for failing them regardless of hakodas and batos insistance that she didnt

hoddick is to well trained to be broken into a healer so he is quickly executed on deck in veiw of his daughter ursa

the soldiers also stole many items from kanas home{most are kyas hakodas and ursas}

ursa is left tied up on deck

this is when she finds out that she can also bend FIRE and her fire is STRONG in her rage

ursa escapes the ship with her fathers body and her things but found that all the other benders were already dead

she swims to shore and finds herself in the fire nation

she finds her way to her grandmothers home

haki an elderly widdow is utterly thrilled to see her grandaughter and takes her in instantly

when she hears that ozai wants her she decides to act rather then react

she travels to the air temple and hides all of her things there {she keeps her necklace with her though}

then she returns as urza and hides ALL of her bending

then she focusses on hideing from ozai

but she accidently falls into her destiny when she finds the teenage LuTen drowning in a river she used to fish for pearls

she would water bend specific sand sized minerals into the oysters and then slip out the pearls without harming the animal

she rescues the boy and takes him into town where iroh and ozai are frantically searching for him.

Urza is suprized at how kind ozai is and as the two dance around each other she realizes that ozai could fix the war and help HER people[the southern water tribe]

six years pass

[Azulon~85~], [Iroh~36~], [Ozai~31~], [LuTen~19~], [Urza~25~ Ursa-29-], [Kya~29~], [Bato~25~], [Hakoda~20~], [Hoddick~32~], [Kana~40~], {Aang~12~frozen}, and [Haki~78]

in the spring of the sixth year of their dance urza agrees to wed ozai

oddly that same week kya weds hakoda

at the end of that year urza gives birth to a pair of twins a son-zuko and a daughter-izuna, while kya gives birth to a son-sokka

sokka

is perfectly healthy

takes after his southern tribe father and maternal grand father in skintone and blue-black hair but takes his northern tribe maternal grandmothers silver-blue eyes

zuko

is born not breathing but once he is made to he is fine {hes still weak}

he took his fathers dark black hair and drastically pale skin but his eyes are STIKEING his left eye is dark blue almost black{matching his mother} and his right eye is a mix of dark are bright golds

izuna

is born sleeping and while she continues to breathe and eat she does not wake or cry

she has pale silver blue eyes and blue-black hair

azulon berates ozai for producing such weakness

four years pass:

iroh convinces ozai to take urza izuna zuko and Luten to the emerald isles for rest and recuperation they’ll stay there for four years at which point luten will leave for military training for the war{iroh insists he wait till then hoping to save his innocence having begun to loose faith in the wars reasons}

meanwhile a year after sokka is born kya~30~ gives hakoda~21~ a daughter, katara{she is clearly a bender given her eyes that look silver blue in the daylight but nearly pitchblack in the moonlight} and is as such seen as a blessing but one that would be forever in danger

oddly the day katara is born izuna~1~ wakes and zuko~1~ breathes fire

ozai~32~ and urza~26~ are thrilled but only tell iroh~37~ and luten~20~ as they dont want to deal with azulons~86~ scruiteny

two years after that urza~28~ makes izuna~3~ and zuko~3~ older siblings by giving ozai~34~ a second daughter, azula{named as such for fire that dances around her fingers when she crys}

ozai has iroh~39~ stay with izuna zuko and luten as he and urza take azula tomeet azulon~88~

meanwhile at the same time hakoda~23~ and kya~32~ bring bato into their home and he becomes a third parent to sokka~3~ and katara~2~

a year after that luten~23~ leaves for training

Iroh~40~, Ozai~35~, Urza~29~, izuna~4~, zuko~4~ and azula~1~ return to the mainland of the firenation

after greeting azulon~89~ they follow iroh to their new home a recently reopened wing of the palace closed by sozen

then iroh leaves for ba sing se

meanwhile katara~3~ waterbends for the first time {kya~33~ bato~29~ hakoda~24~ are thrilled but terrorfied}

this same year toph beifng is born

three years pass

iroh~43~ gains the name

ozai~38~ begins to worry over izuna~7~ and zuko~7~ not activly bending and becomes creul in his fear

urza~32~ trys to soothe things over but it only gets worse when azula~4~ becomes an absolute prodigy and azulon~92~ takes notice of the older twos lack of bending

luten~26~ completes his training and joins his father in basingse

meanwhile azulon~92~ hears rumors of a southern water bender and sends another raiding party to the southern water tribe

hakoda~27~ bato~32~ and sokka~7~ are on a hunting trip and kya~36~ and katara~6~ are in their tent alone {kya reading the skrolls she wrote on her father and sisters bending[their in code and katara only knows a little of the code] to teach the girl what she can}

a fire nation soldier comes into the tens as the raiding partyhits the villiage and makes it clear that hes looking for the water bender.

Kya claims its her while meeting the mans eyes and the soldier nods and holds his hand out to make her stand{even though he knows she is lying for the child, he cant spare the ‘bender’ but he can spare the child}

kya takes his hand stands and gives katara her ncklace{now has two chains added to it from hakoda and baotos proposal}and after telling her to find her fathers leaves with the soldier

the soldier takes kya to the other soldiers expecting to take her onto the ship only for one of the soldiers to quickly slit her throat{merciful in comparison to the fate she is destined for on the ship}

the soldiers leave kyas body there and leave the pole for home.

Hakoda bato and sokka return to all of this

kana hakoda bato sokka and katara try to cope with the loss of kya

meanwhile the 3 year old toph makes her way into the tunnels

three yars pass

hakoda and bato leave for the war front less then a year into it unable to cope with the loss of kya

luten visits his cousins aunt and uncle and they all go on vacation to the emerald isles in the first year

luten and zuko bond quickly and luten teaches zuko to use the deul dao {he also teaches izuna in secret}

then luten returns to basingse

toph lives this year in the caves with the badger moles

the next year repeats the same save for toph returning home and chaffing under her parents ‘care’

the last year while ozai~41~ urza~35~ izuna~10~ zuko~10~ and azula~7~ are in the emerald isle the news arives that luten is dead killed in basingse at just 29 and iroh~46~ had retreated sent his men home and vanished

this breaks the family

azulon~95~calls ozais family home for the funeral

on greeting azulon the three children preform{azulon perfect zuko flailing and izuna purposly messing up}

urza leaves but the three children sneak back into eavesdrop on ozai and azulons talk

ozai angers his father and the man orders him to kill his son

ozai gos to urza instead

urza puts the children to bed tells them she loves them and after leaveing a chest of her things{her necklace the saved items from the raind and gifts from ozai in zukos room} she sneaks into the throne room and uses blood bending to shred azulons lungs with his own blood then she flees{so that if what she did comes out her childrenand husband would be spared and kindof fearing the spirits backlash for regicide}

while gone she plans to find her sister

azulons now half human half spirit ghost twisted with rage ans out of agnis reach now permenently as a schade, begins manipulating ozai as his memories begin to return{iroh is to filled with greif to touch}

toph~6~ meanwhile has started to sneak out at night

katara~9~ and sokka~10~ begin aiding kana~50~ in leading the remnents of the southern water tribes{the scaterd tribes have moved closer to each other but arnt yet merged}

three years pass

in the first year:

toph~6-7~ begins snaeking out to the fighting rings

kana~50-51~ begins preparing sokka~10-11~ and katara~9-10~ for her eventual death wanting them to be as ready as they can be

and ozai~41-42~ begins to quickly fall apart under azulons influence becoming colder and creuler to everyone in an attempt to scare them away so that those he loves are out of azulons reach

azula~7-8~ becomes more twisted {she is a sociopath and has no guidence} but mai~9-10~ and tylee~6-7~{sent to be livein friends by ozai to further protect his daughter from his ‘madness’ even though he dosent know just what is wrong with him}

izunas~10-11~ sight begins to fade {her pale eyes being damaged by the bright fire nation sun}

zuko~10-11~ continues to disapoint ozai and his mere presence infuriates his madness so ozai avoids him

izuna zuko azula tylee and mai cling to each other but only tylee knows about izunas eyes{she teaches her gymnastics to help with her balance}

the second year is the same as the first

the third year is when things take a turn

iroh~49~brings his ship and crew into port and gos to the palace

the kids pack their things so that they can have a slumber party on the empty ship

zuko~13~packs his and izunas things into his moms trunk{that now has sozens trunk inside it because izuna had found it and put it with her moms things thinking it was important to her mom[its in water tribe colors]

zuko wears his moms pendent in an old diffuser pedent from her mother on an earth nation chain from luten around his right ankle

the twins send their chest ahead when they find out iroh cant take them immeadiatlyas he has to attend a war room meeting {azula~10~ tylee~9~ and mai~12~ just decide to not go impatient}

the trunk arrives at the ship JUST as izuna and zuko convince iroh to take them into the meeting

in the war room a creul general makes a joke about the army needing more kindling zuko aks what he means the general explains and zuko freaks out on him

the boy is then challenged to an agni kai and since he thinks hell be fighting an old war hawk he agrees

two hours later hes on the dias waiting for the general only to turn and finds ozai instead

azulon is thrilled to have a chance to rid himself of zuko but wants to punnish ozai

azulon locks ozai in his own head he can see hear and feel but cant act as azulon stalks forward

zuko goes to his knees and refuses to fight his father

azulon leans down and puts both of ozais hands on the boys face brushing away tears as he guides the boy to stand

then the speech zuko is confused but izuna and ozai arnt

then azulon brings ozais flame into his right hand and while holding zukos face tightly with his left he presses his right hand over zukos left blue-black eye and burns it

as zuko screams out in pain as hes forced to stand and take it :

iroh looks away knowing he cant challenge the fire lord

azula pretends to be excited hoping it will distract ozai so he wont kill zuko{burns can heal}

everyone else stares in shock

but izuna looses it and tackles zuko away covering his body with her own gaining burns of her own across her back and neck

azulon has the children taken to the healers rooms and follows

he allows the healers to bandage them and bannishes the both

iroh offers to take them and ozai accepts before azulon reasserts control

iroh and the children leave withen the hour

zukkos burns cover his:

face left side hairline down to the chin down the far left side of the neck the left shoulder and 90% of the left arm and 65% of the left hand

he losees most of the sight in his left eye and is mostly deft on that side

izunas cover her:

98% of her back and 95%of her neck front and back the back of her right arm and hand

she looses the ability to speak as the wound on her neck pulls it so tight even breathing hurts

iroh directs the shipname to one of the seaside colonies and finds an apothicary to take in and treat the kidsin trade for rare herbs that iroh sends the shipname to collect

zukos hair has to be shaved into a phoenix tail to aid in the care of the burns while izunas escapes unscathed

the apothicary cares for the twins for the next {4} months as they drift in and out of conciusness[zuko constantly screaming in both states izuna erily silent]

but then their awake and strong enough that iroh is comfortable bringing them back on to the ship where they hide away from the crew for another month{until their strong enough to stand and walk on their own}

after the month the two meet the crew

izuna stays silent still unable to speak above the faintest whisper due to the tight skin of he burns

zuko speaks rarely{blaming himself for izunas wounds and the loss of izunas ability to sing} but when he does hes a bundle of unrivaled rage and pain and is visciously cutting in his tone and dialouge

the crew dosnt like them:

they were told their burns came from a training accident and that ozai had sent them ‘to find the avatar’ to keep them out of trouble and the crew are underpaid babysitters for a spoiled prince and princess

but they respect iroh to much to say this publicaly

for the next three years

the twins heal as they travel

in the first year they visit the nnnn air temple and find the skeletons

they bury them all {fire nation and air nomads alike} it takes months and they finish three days before the end of the month

though isuna is blind she gains the ability to ‘see’ heat marks as she heals

as they bury the skeletons and heal a bit more zuko accidently water bends out of frustration leading to izuna trying and succeding in it

after the skeletons are buried zuko searches the library for any mention of deul benders and finds that and writing on the avatar test

they both take the test as a joke

but izunas test is positive and zuko is petrified

the next day {first day of the second year}the twins rejoin the crew bringing pounds of scrolls with them and the shipname ships out

the crew stayed on the ship and think the twins are just playing around

iroh spent most of his time on the ship thinking that the twins are exploring and wanting to let them be kids

the twins know they will be powerful but dont know how theyll get there

only a week into the second year the ship is stopped by zhao who demands a private audience with zuko~14~

on zhaos ship zuko notices almost all of the crew is under 14

zhao makes it clear that ozai demands that zuko and izuna stay out of the fire nation until they have the avater in hand and offers to help

zuko carefully declines

zhao mentions that azula~9~ is still withen ozais reach

zuko assures him hell do it himself and returns to his uncles ship

the third year starts with a storm that pulls zuko overboard

more southern water tribe men leave to join hakoda~32-35~ while kana~52-55~ katara~12-15~ and

sokka~13-16~ condence all the remaining elders women and children to one teritory

toph~9-12~ begins fighting as the blind bandit and pretends to be the perfect daughter in front of her parents

THIRD YEAR OF THE TWINS BANISHMENT

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I really dont get it, car insurance on a 2000 plate 1litre yaris is over 10,000 - YES 10K! I do live in manchester, which is the most costly post code to get insured in but 10k is just a joke for a 18year old. Ive done it all correct too putting 1000 annual milage e.t.c So ive read online about how much people are fined when they are found driving without insurance and its about 200 on average. I know it can go upto 5000 but thats still cheaper than shelling out for insurance and your chances of getting caught arnt really high the way i would do it. Get a car, insure my dad on the car so it doesnt flag up on the police cameras when you drive past, drive to and from work only, and say the car is parked at work (nice postcode to get insurance cheaper) over night. which i can say it is my brother takes it on his night shift there. And if i do get caught i will say i took it without owners concent. TWOC the police call it. I just cant get it into my head at why the government dont do anything about insurance it kind of pushes people into breaking the law. And i would use public transport IF it didnt take me 4hours to get to and from work a day! ""

How much do you pay for car insurance if you're 20?

i need answers for a statistics project. anyone 20 years old please tell me how much of your premium are you paying MONTHLY??

Car insurance for a teenager?

How much do you think insurance will cost (adding another car to my parents insurance plan)

How much does a broken wrist cost after insurance?

I have a paper from school and in it I must in include all details of a situation. My story line includes a child breaking their wrist. I was wonder what someone would have to pay after insurance? If you could help me be detailed as much as possible like how much would it be for like x rays, doctor visits, medicine, etc. I've never broken anything so Im a bit lost. Even just a average estimate would be appreciated.""

About how much is the average teen insurance of the lowest requirements for TX of a 17 year old with a license

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Where to buy affordable health insurance?

I was forced to retire at the age of 64. I am not eligible for medicare until Sep of 2011. Looking for health insurane I can buy now

Which family car has the lowest insurance rates in Toronto and why?

How is mandating health insurance socialism? Why is no one rioting about car insurance?

Healthcare is still run by the private sector. Just more people will be able to get it. How is ensuring everyone has insurance socialized medicine? Healthcare is run by the private sector either way.

What's a good insurance company to sign with?

I'm 20 years and pay $800.00 every six months for my insurance. I want to find a better and much cheaper insurance company. Please help me out.

I've started a degree course at my local uni. Should I tell my car insurance company?

My policy states that I work part time at a supermarket, which I still do. But I have started a degree course as of yesterday. I'm living at home, so no change of address, and I'm using the car to drive to my lectures. The uni is actually in the same area as where I work. Does my insurance company need to know and am I going to be charged?""

How much would car insurance cost ?

I was just wondering how much it would cost for car insurance for a 17 year old Male in England Also in no that there are different types of insurance what do they all do These are the cars I'm thinking of buying Ford ka sport Fiat punto Vauxhall corsa Citroen Saxo Roughly how much would they cost and whats the best insurance option to take ? :)

2004 RX8 insurance? Teens I need help!!!!?

Ok I am looking to get a 2004 RX8. I am 16 and may get it at 17 if I wanna wait.I can afford the car (with parents help) but I wanna know, With Full Insurance Coverage, around what price is the Insurance (I know about the quote thing but what yours) for the 2004 RX8. Do any Teens have on that can tell me?""

Car insurance for 17 year old male?

hi can anyone help me i have been looking round for car insurance for a 1.0ltr corsa 2002 and my cheapest quote i have had is 15,540 per year and i am wondering if anyone could tell me if there is anywhere i can get it cheeper or is that the cheepest i am gooing to find thanks ant""

How would limiting expenses in the health care sector assist with making health care affordable?

and increase accessibility to care, while reducing the need for insurance?""

How far in advance can you buy your car insurance?

I'm trying to avoid the increase that's happening in December but my premium runs out 2 weeks after the increase

Is motorcycle insurance less than car insurance?

Alright so I am 18 and I just purchased a 2001 GSXR 600 and some tell me that it will cost more to insure than a car..and some say less..I personally think it will cost less considering that a bike will cause much less damage than a car would. Please help me out and tell me about how much a month this bike will cost, thanks!""

Costco auto insurance?

a friend of mine the other day told me that she pays 90 dollars on her car insurance and she is 16 years old. I just wanted to know if there is a catch because it sounds too good to be true.

What is the cheapest auto insurance for a new driver?

I'm 23, female, and a new driver. I don't care about the quality of the insurance, I just need CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP. A potential job depends on a car I'm about to get, and I need cheap insurance ASAP.""

Car Insurance Advice - Florida Needed?

I have been going over my policy and lowered my PIP. I have a 9 yr old SUV so no comp and collision, I would like someone with insurance or legal experience to look over my coverage and tell me if sufficient. I am a home owner with no equity. I have no other assets other than an ROTH IRA and bank accounts with about $1000. or detailed coverage descriptions, hover over the associated below 2003 MITSUBISHI MNTROSPXLS Total Vehicle Premium: $466.00 Protects you and your passengers Bodily Injury Liability [Edit] Current Limit: $20,000/$20,000 $167.00 Property Damage Liability [Edit] Current Limit: $50,000 $136.80 Personal Injury Protection-Insured [Edit] Current Deductible: $1,000 Ded. $162.20 Personal Injury Protection-Insured & Relative [Add] Current: Not Carried Not Carried Personal Injury Protection -Insured with Excluded Work Loss [Add] Current: Not Carried Not Carried Personal Injury Protection -Insured and Relative with Excluded Work Loss [Add] Current: Not Carried Not Carried Additional Personal Injury Protection Insured [Add] Current: Not Carried Not Carried Additional Personal Injury Protection Insured and Relative [Add] Current: Not Carried Not Carried Medical Payments [Add] Current: Not Carried Not Carried Uninsured Motorist - Nonstacked [Add] Current: Not Carried Not Carried Uninsured Motorist - Stacked [Edit] Current Limit: I Reject this Coverage $0.00 Protects your vehicles 2003 MITSUBISHI MNTROSPXLS Comprehensive [Add] Deductible Not Carried Collision [Add] Deductible Not Carried Emergency Road Service [Add] Not Carried Rental Reimbursement [Add] Not Carried""

Car Insurance (Geico) ?

My parents don't have me on their insurance but I have a license does geico know I have my licence because I live with my parents? And by how much will they raise the insurance cost if they put me on?

Which insurance agencies help pay for braces?

I need braces and I'm looking for a good affordable insurance agency that I can get them through.

Does your car insurance premium go up if you have a claim that didn't involve others but was over $1400?

Its just body damage and no one else was involved. Also if I use my rental coverage will that make my premium go up (i.e. is premium tied to how much the total claim cost)? Thanks

How will Obama's healthcare plan help me?

Please answer this question only if you truly know the answer. I am tired of all the rhetoric. I work at a hospital in patient access. The insurance the company offers is too expensive so I chose not to take it. I also know, from the job I do, that it doesn't pay very well for the employees that do use it. So how will Obama's plan help me to be able to #1 afford health insurance #2 have good coverage offered to me""

Cheap cars to insure?

17 Year old female that has just passed my test and needs a car. What cars are really cheap to insure? If possible can you also add the engine size, year released, 3 or 5 door and any other details that will be useful :) Thank you :)""

How much should health insurance cost a 24 year old female in los angeles?

I'm looking into geting health Insurance and i not sure how mush it would cost a healthy 24 year old female who's monthly income is ruffly 1500 a month. I don't have any major health problem. Can someone please give me an idea of what i might be looking at or any suggestions ... thanks

License in insurance?

What would it be for? How would I go about obtaining one, and is it a solid field to get into? I currently work in member service for health insurance and am looking into getting into a different type, but I see a lot require a license in insurance.""

Car insurance question no claims bonus?

so, i went onto the website with the annoying singing fat man, got a reasonable quote for my classic car, declared all cars in my household, one of which is a company car with 2 years NCB. Paid the deposit and remainder was to be paid monthly by direct debit. After a couple of weeks now they've written to me wanting proof of the NCB I stated, wanting details of the previous insurance and policy number. So, I email them (as they stated in the letter that this would be the quickest way to resolve and avoid having my policy cancelled) saying the NCB was on company insurance rather than another private insurance which i think they assume I have (the option on NCB on the website included NCB on company cars), no response to my email, so I send another, now I've had a red coloured letter threatening cancellation of my insurance unless I provide the information. Tried phoning and it's either constantly engaged or answer phone. Emailed for a third and final time and put a copy of the email in the post with no response. I feel I have been totally mislead by assuming I have NCB on my company car policy, so, should they decide to cancel my policy can I get my deposit and 1st month's payment back? Citizens advice has told me that the policy was misleading and was not as described so I should be due a refund but how can I expect to get this if I cannot contact them? HELP and advice please!""

Do I need to include a speeding ticket that got reduced to a moving violation on a new insurance policy?

I am trying to get a quote for insurance and it asked if I have had any tickets. i did get pulled over and got a ticket once, but I had a lawyer get it reduced to a moving violation so it wouldnt affect my insurance at the time. do i need to mention it when i try to get insurance somewhere else?""

Can someone help me get a insurance quote ?

im 16 and my mom said that if i wanted to drive, i would have to buy my own insurance. but the thing is i cant find any sites that tell me how much i would have to pay as a starter , and then pay monthly. the car that i want to drive is my stepdads 2000 Bonneville. idk what else it is but it looks just like this. VvV http://www.autoworld.com/news/Pontiac/2000Bonneville.jpg i just want to know how much i would have to pay (:""

Can I teach Yoga in the U.S without buying insurance for my students?

I have been teaching Yoga for 10 yrs, I recently moved to the U.S and planning to start a studio.Any help is greatly appreciated.""

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I am looking for car insurance for my 23 year old Ford Fiesta. A lot of companies wont quote.?

I am 54yrs old my car is 23yrs old but it only has 46000 miles on the clock.

Paying for Insurance question?

Okay, is it possible for me to pay for insurance for only a few days rather than a month at a time? If so, how?""

How much in the region of would it cost to insure a 17 year old on a..?

1. Vauxhall corsa '07' reg 1.2 ? 2. Vauxhall astra 05-08 reg ? 3. volkswagen golf up to 10 years old ? any estimates would be much appreciated im looking for a car at the moment and just wanted a rough price of the insurance and 17 btw just passed driving test

How many of you are paying around $200 for car insurance..?

if so what kind of car do you have..? i am trying to get a car pay it in cash and just pay for the car insurance..

Just curious.......How many of you have no health insurance but.......?

.......have cell phones, satellite TV, Wii's and games, smoke or drink. Since the average cost of a family plan is about $3600.00 per year, just wondering if you realized you could buy your own health insurance with the money you spend on these things. I am curious why luxuries would be more important to you than getting health insurance.""

How to convince parents to let me have auto insurance?

I've had my license for a little over three months now. However, I have no insurance, and therefore cannot drive (in California). Their reasoning is that I am an unsafe driver which I disagree with because I quite easily passed my driving test at the DMV and always think before I do anything when I drive. However, they seem firm on their decision... It's a bit frustrating having my license for so long but still being unable to drive. I'm tired of having to always ask friends for a ride or my parents; I just want a taste of independence. Of course, I'm not trying to be too arrogant or stubborn, I've respected my parent's decision, it's just bugging me a bit now haha. I offered to do a six-month plan instead of a year plan since I'm heading off to college in Septemberish. I'm about to turn 18 in a couple weeks also. Does anyone have any advice?""

Why is driving without insurance wrong?

if you are responsible for an accident, can't you still be made to pay up by law?""

What happens if you drive without insurance?

My dad got in a car crash like a minor few weeks ago and it was the other driver faulth and her car was really old. she got my dads licesnce and today they called from their insurance and they asked my dad to confirm his insurance number and my dad said he cant speak english. and my dad went to the lady and he left a message. and then the lady called with private number and she said it cost about 3000 my dad said he can pay her somehow she said no my car is in insurance and blah blah and my dad asked her can i have ur number since you called in private and she said no sorry and my dad said bye.. so what happens when the insurance calls and ask for it and like can the police be involved in this? plss answer thank you so much

What would the insurance on this car be roughly?

Just been looking at this car. Should be driving by the end of this year. What would the insurance be roughly? any car expert opinions? we're looking at this cause its a classic, its fairly cheap, it can fit my brothers cello and my parents like it as well and would pay for it. Just what would the insurance be like for me? when I start to drive?""

""I have a question about an accident, insurance, an estimate and payment?""

Hello. I recently got rear-ended and had an estimate done for $1800 dollars and somebody told me they would never give me that much for my car. I looked up the Kelley Blue Book and a private party price would be about $750 and that's how much they would give me and THEY take the car. Is this right? I might do it $750 and I keep the car! I put a new clutch in it, new front brake system, new exhaust, I love the car, so it's worth much more to me.....I'm just wondering what the law is on it and what I might be able to do to maximize my payout. If I'm unhappy with their offer can I take them to small claims and win? I just can't believe that I was just sitting at a stoplight and BOOM my car's wrecked and since I'm poor I can't get it fixed ya know? Thank you for your time......""

How much would car insurance cost roughly?

Please could you give me a rough estimate at what it would cost me please? Im 21, female, and i'm thinking about getting a driving licence and a car soon, so i will be a new driver.i have no idea on prices for car insurance, so could you please help me out, i'm probably going to get a small car, like a Renault Clio, or something small like that, no more than a 1.2. Plus what would the road tax be please? Thanks for the advice :D""

Is it true that your auto insurance company considers the color of your vehicle when determining rate?

I am buying a new car, and I've heard that your insurance rates may go up or down depending on the color of your car. I've heard that a red car has higher insurance rates, while white cars are the lowest. Is that true?""

Need Advise On Car Insurance?

On Friday Fed. 12th I bought Me a good Used car. I had to park on the side of the street cause my neighbors from downstairs had company and were in my spot. when I woke up on Saturday morning my car was wrecked in the front and the other vehicle no where in site well except for the trail of car fluids that led to his car three blocks away. the police came got his info and mine, towed his vehicle, advised me what I needed to do and left. I found out on my own that the insurance that the police had was false info. I was pissed. Well low and behold the owner of the car came to my house that same evening and was like my car was stolen and all this other bs. He gave me his correct insurance papers and said he would report it to claims. He never did I had to on Tuesday. His insurance knew nothing of the matter. I filed my claim with them and they said it would be 24 to 48 hours and they would get in contact with me. Nothing yet.. Im still waiting for them to call me. What should I do now???????????""

Cheap health insurance?

I have an account with a community clinic and i am eligible for a 90% discount and i have only had to go once for a sprained wrist. I cannot afford health insurance so the clinic ...show more

""Insurance paid out too much, Am I obliged to give it back?""

After a solicitors firm managed to draw out a car insurance claim for 18 months I finally settled 50/50 on the incident, instead of refunding me 50% (400) of my excess the solicitors paid me 100% (800). I verbally informed them of the error before they issued the cheque and they still proceeded, now they have noticed the error they are asking for me to return the money. Am I legally obliged to do so and how far are they likely to pursue this if I do not?""

What other types of insurance should I get?

So far I'm going to get family health insurance, life insurance, and Car insurance. I'm going to have kids. Anything else I should have? We rarely have natural disasters where I'm from.""

Cheapest car insurance companies for 18 year old female?

How much does car insurance cost?

Im planning on getting a 2012 honda accord coupe. will it be more expensive to insure compared to the sedan model or will it only be a slight expensive?

""How do I get quotes on things such as insurance, utility cost, and building remodling?""

how do I get quotes on things such as insurance, utility cost, and building remodling when I'm writing a business plan? We finally have found a great location for a bar and grill we have wanted to open and a business plan requires a lot of estimating costs and I want to find the most accurate figures so that I can set myself up for success.""

Why does the Affordable Health Care Act make health care more expensive?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/10/obamacare-fee-of-63-per-person-to-begin-in-2014/ If the name was correct, shouldn't costs be going down? What would be a ...show more""

Can i change my insurance payments?

I basically just cancelled my insurance after 12 days of having it because the company messed me about, so im waiting for my 1000 refund. But need to buy new insurance now! But don't have the money, found a quote with Swinton but the question is could i just put that i want to pay monthly and pay the small deposit then call them in a few days and pay the rest off for they year? Or would they not let me etc....Please help :(""

Do you think it far we can't get tags with out car insurance?

car insurance is a good thing to have, but do you think the Govener is going to far....?????""

Motorcycle insurance question?

I want to get a Yamaha V Star 250 when I turn 20. What would be the average loading percentage for 20 year old with a 250cc bike and a clean driving record? Also will I need third party and third party fire and theft or is it optional??? And what would the NCD% (no-claim discount) be????

HOw much does it cost to insure a second vehicle?

I pay $125 a month for my car. WOuld like to get one of those vans you camp in and insure it for the summer. About what pertenage would be added to my current insurance, approimxently? just want rough estimates for people who have insured more then one vehicle before?""

How Much Homeower Insurance Do I need?

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Car insurance increase due to speeding question?

I have geico car insurance and recently was convicted of 2 points for speeding. How much will the insurance be raised if Ive had probation one other time prior?

Dui and car insurance?

My record got explunged now that I am 18 in the state of California. Will my car insurance take me back?

Whats the cheapest car insurance for a young driver?

Im 19 and i have got my test in october, my driving instructor has moved away and so i thought I will get a car, and i had recently bought one it is a renault clio grande 1149cc, im looking for a good insurance quote and an insurance quote that will drop in price when i pass my test because many insurance company's rise in price after the test""

17 year old car insurance?

Ive got a car and should (hopefully!) be passing my test soon but for reasons to complicated to list here lol I will only be able to drive it 2 weeks in easter time, 2 weeks in christmas time, 5 weeks around august and 4 days every 5 weeks, so by my bad maths thats just over 100 days. Are there any insurance companies for a 17 year old that you can get a fixed amount of days insurance, it seems such a waste to pay for 365 days if im only going to be able to use it for just under a third of the time. I read about some companies doing 60 or 90 days for young drivers but that might have been me mis-reading it, anyone hear about anything like that? Ive tried lowering the amount of miles on quotes but that hasnt reduced the price by much at all. I was hoping for quite a substantial saving. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Thanks.""

""Im 16 and need to get cheap insurance, any suggestions?""

Im 16 yrs old, female, very independent and just bought a car; a 2002 chrysler pt cruiser. Im needing to get car insurance and be being 16 I know it'll be expensive so im needing to know where the cheapest place to get insurance for liability coverage in the state of Kentucky.""

My son's Beretta car is now in his girlfriends name. He wants me to put insurance on it so it can be driven.?

I just want to know what the Michigan law is regarding insuring a car not in my name. And not in my possession. I get a good insurance rate now because I have always paid my bills on time. My sons girlfriend thinks I should do this for them. I don't and I won't but I promised to look into it today. I have two trucks already insured in my name and so does the girlfriend. I plan to speak today with my insurance man to find out what I can. Any suggestions besides being totally blunt with these 40 year old people? Just say no is a good policy and the right thing for me to do. But hard.

How can I find affordable health insurance for self employed?

For just me and him we pay $927 a month! He has no medical conditions. I take 3 medications for depression and anxiety, but its been a lifelong thing, and I require not psychiatrist or anything , like that, just the meds from my family doctor to keep my chemicals level. Can we get assistance, or is there special help for the self employed? I'm 35 and he is 40.""

Disadvantages of insurance?

Can any one kindly list the disadvantages of Insurance? or give the link of website?

What is the right affordable car insurance to purchase in NEW JERSEY?

Hi, I was looking to buy a car insurance policy. I currently have a company but wanted to drop them due to being overpriced. The only problem is that i don't have a driver license nor have i ever had one. I was able to finance a car off the lot but it wasn't for me. I brought it for my grandson. He has a driver license and is the only primary driver of the car. Being as though I never had a license most companies won't accept it and limits me from getting a cheaper policy. He is about to turn 18 next week. So is there any car insurance companies that will accept that i don't have a license and let me get a policy with him being the primary driver of the car. Thanks!!""

""My car is fully paid for, and I wonder what auto insurance coverage would be the less expensive and good?""

My car is fully paid for, and I wonder what auto insurance coverage would be the less expensive and good enough to get in state of California? 1- Liability only? 2- Liability plus collision? 3- Full coverage? 4- Any other type? Regards, Mo.""

Cheap car insurance for a 17 year old?

I am 17 and living in london. DO you guys know of any cheap insurance companies ( they do not have to be well known companies). I am willing to pay 3000 for insurance.

What's the cheapest car insurance in NY?

I'm 20 (female) with an 1991 Honda and a couple minor infractions, and I'm really looking to get a cheaper insurance plan. What would you recommend? Thanks!!""

How much do you pay for insurance for your car?

Can someone give the cost of living in Dubai?

i want to know the cost of rent, food, car, insurance(health and auto) and any other expenses. not expecting exact numbers just anything close!! thanks!!!""

New drivers (permit); what can save money on insurance?

Okay, new drivers in the family (got the permit today). Of course, DMV rats you out to Allstate, and Allstate charges a ton for insurance (Arm + Leg). Oh, two new drivers. So I'm looking for ways to show good character to Allstate or find a cheaper insurance. Now, I know some basic things about Auto Insurance: A) Good grades (above 3.0 gpa) can get a discount from some insurers (usually 10%). Have this. B) I drive a moderate car (not SUV or sedan). Good condition. C) The car will be shared between 2-3 young drivers. Since they can't all be in the car at once, I imagine this could reduce costs. D) No criminal record and no disciplinary file at school. E) In the Fall, Drivers Ed is offered. I understand that it also can reduce costs F) Parents are responsible drivers (low insurance) Who tends to be cheapest with Auto Insurance? Am I wrong in any of the above statements, and is there any other factors that can save money? Where is the best place to get a quote? Thank you!""

What is the cheapest car insurance premium quote?

That you know of , for an 18 year old male driving a group 1 car. Thanks.""

What are the chances my daughter could get good health insurance?

That's affordable? She has a few preexisting conditions. Spina Bifida (birth defect) asthma and Chiari Malformation. She only has one kidney. Right now she's receiving Medicaid but theres a cap on how much me and my husband can make a month and we really want to do better. Is Obama going to do something about Health care? I only have 3 choices if there are no changes, win the lotto, move to England or let things stay the way they are.""

""I need a cheap, reliable and economical car. Any recommendations?

it would help if it could be all round cheap such as... insurance group etc.

What happens if I cancel my car insurance policy?

I can't pay my monthly car insurance note. What will happen if I just cancel the policy before the payment is due? Will they still flag my license if I just cancel the policy?

How much is your auto insurance annual premium in NJ ?

I live in Central New Jersey and I pay around $1700 for 2 cars + 2 drivers with no accidents. How much do you pay approx ?

About what would the insurance be on a '94 Camaro V6?

This doesn't apply to me...one of my friends asked me to post this--long story Anyway, he wants to buy this '94 Chevy Camaro base model; not the Z28!! He's gonna buy it off a local guy for $3000...it was 3200 something but he gave him a break for cash. So I'm supposed to ask what kind of insurance that he, a 16 year old will a spotless driving record and good grades, could expect to pay. His parents would like to put liability only on it to keep the cost down. Does anybody have any estimates???--remember liability ONLY..... Oh and we're here in Iowa if location makes any difference....""

Accident...Car Insurance Coverage (Infinity)?

I drove my moms car going to work, I drive it once a week or not even. Someone crashed into me on the freeway and damaged the vehicle. Im not on the insurance policy but My mom has ...show more""

Accident and insurance?

If you get into a car accident, will your insurance pay for the cost of repair, or if it is totaled will it pay for a new car? In what situation will they be able to pay for the cost of repair or car?""

Do you have health insurance?

If so, How much is it per month? How old are you? What kind of deductable do you have?? feel free to answer also if you do not have insurance.""

Do I need a license for a 150 cc scooter in Indiana?

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