#people dont like Lancelot and i almost dont blame them because if you look at the character for what they are

[juiceastronaut]

No but once again I shall be saying things about Lancelot because I've been having thoughts and that post just made them worse

It really seems that Lancelot characterization begins and ends with his affair with Guinivere. And even that is only explored at a superficial depth. Oh, Lancelot feels guilty okay. But this doesn't really seem to effect how he acts despite a dialogue here and there.

And plus! He got other personality traits! Like God, he had so many instances of him running around impersonating people. He has an entire son he didn't know about before with a woman (in the normal legend) that tricked him into sleeping with her. What was that like, emotionally? Finding out about this son he didn't know about? It's stated that he was around for a bit when Galahad was younger but then left. Why did he stay at first? Why'd he eventually leave? He was a mentor to Gareth and Gaeris in life, then he ends up killing him. What was *that* like for him emotionally?

HE WAS RAISED BY THE LADY IN THE LAKE. LIKE *IN* A LAKE. Where's the fairy content guys!? Where's the weird shit that Lancelot does cause sure he's human but he's also just slightly off because he was RAISED BY THE FAE. Where's his reluctance to eat food He's not prepared? An incline to sweets? Him being so partial to the truth that it's inconvenient at times?

He's literally written as some dude. I think the way his sword works is really cool, and I wanted stuff like that mentioned in his actual character. But he literally could've just been anyone. There's nothing that he says or does that (unless you knew already) would've suggested he had nothing but a normal upbringing.

We're given just the barest glimpses of his relationships with other people, and even then it's usually a line casually mentioned by either him or the other person. Certainly we don't get them talking about the other knights in depth besides the occasional line. They don't even talk to *each other* about it, they only mention it to the Master!

Like sure, we have the Camelot singularity. But I want to know how it went down in the Actual Camelot!

A lot of these things are mentioned by the characters as if they were passively relaying things from the past. They're emotional impact, how it effects what they do now? Not really explored! It's just, stated. And then never brought up again. Even though these events were core events for their characters. Certainty Lancelot's.

For Christ's sake, we're *how* far into this franchise where the main girl was King Arthur, and we *still* don't have a full canon design for Guinivere!? And that's the one character trait we do have for Lancelot. Do we even get to see the woman he was willing to risk it all for, the woman who eventually leads him to insanity? This core facet in Lancelots personality, the core part of why we have the Berserker form and we don't even get to *see* the person he had this connection with.

How the hell are we supposed to care about it if we didn't see the relationship? How were they together, what did they do how did they bond? Where was the turning point where they realized that they loved each other? That they couldn't ever be with each other publicly but they would support each other from the shadows? You make the affair Lancelot's one personality trait but then you don't even show the affair (but still make plenty of jokes at his expense about it.

This is argubly not a FGO problem because how the current story is set up, there's really no way to explore these concepts without some AU of the actual events. But youd still want the full emotional impact of that character in his lines, ya know?

FGO set up a lot of ways that most of the characters magically moved on from the emotional impact of what happened in Camelot. Oh, actually, Gawain isn't mad at Lancelot for killing his siblings anymore, because he realized he did things wrong too. Oh, Gareth doesn't hold a grudge for Lancelot killing her because she *u n d e r s t a n d s* why he did what he did. The characters get summoned and FGO wanted to get them to the point where they'd be fine and interacting with each other again that they just skipped over the emotional work to do so.

It boggles my mind that, one of your three starting girls is the Legendary King Arthur of Camelot. And the *second* biggest character in that story you're *not* going to develop him to the fullest potential? And it's not like you don't have the material it's all right there. You couldn't have more material to work with. There's so many things to add to his personality that would make him much more interesting to the audiende. It's just not emotionally connected to the character in any real capacity.

Make it make sense.