#papalist

[eternal-echoes]

“Pope Innocent IV considered the question of whether fundamental rights of property and of establishing lawful governments belonged only to Christians, or whether these things rightly belonged to all men. At the time, an exaggerated pro-papalist opinion could be found in some circles, according to which the pope, as God's representative on earth, was lord of the whole world, and therefore that legitimate authority and ownership could be exercised only by those who recognized papal authority. Innocent rejected this position, and instead held that "ownership, possession and jurisdiction can belong to infidels licitly...for these things were made not only for the faithful but for every rational creature.”1”

- Thomas E. Woods Jr., Ph.D., “The Church and Western Law,” How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization

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1. Brian Tierney, "The Idea of Natural Rights: Origins and Persistence," Northwestern University Journal of International Human Rights 2 (April 2004): 7.

[maximumphilosopheranchor]

The evidence laid out above therefore suggests that the most plausible conclusion is that Hatton was some kind of Catholic at heart, albeit one who conformed to the Elizabethan Church, and who may have genuinely believed in the royal supremacy (though this is less certain). We cannot analyse his doctrinal beliefs in detail, but his support for and association with so many individuals who regarded themselves as Catholics suggests that he also identified himself as being most closely tied to the Catholic faith, whatever he took that precisely to mean. Peter Marshall has commented that ‘a broad definition of Catholicism, one embracing those who hankered after the Latin mass and the calendar rituals of the medieval Church, and who disliked iconoclasm and the new breed of Protestant preachers’ was widely held early in Elizabeth’s reign, and it seems likely that this was broadly the position Hatton held to. Essentially this is to say that he was probably a church papist, or more accurately (since he does not seem to have been very papalist) a conforming Catholic. Again, the comparison with Lord Henry Howard is instructive. Hatton conformed; so did Howard. Hatton defended the English Church and spoke out against some Catholics; so did Howard. If Howard was a Catholic therefore, might not Hatton have been? A key element of Hatton’s position is that he largely subordinated his religion to his political career. Some of his Protestant colleagues arguably cared more for the ‘Protestant cause’ than for their careers; many prominent Catholics of the period were prepared to risk exile or death for their religion. Support of individual Catholics was the furthest Hatton was prepared to go. In many cases he probably had to make unpleasant compromises, such as participating in the trials and executions of his former followers and perhaps friends, to preserve his position. On some readings this may be seen as a politique position, but he was not neutral –​ he clearly favoured one side, but only within the bounds of the politically practical. Whatever Hatton’s personal sympathies, he was by virtue of his position as a royal favourite always committed to Elizabeth’s rule; he was necessarily a supporter of what the government often described as ‘the present state of religion and policy’ and he could only rock the boat to a limited degree. This of course was one of the things which surely recommended him to Elizabeth: unlike (say) the Duke of Norfolk or the Earl of Arundel, who had independent standing, Hatton had come in with her and would, should the matter arise, most likely go out with her. It is of course possible that this is wrong. Perhaps Hatton did indeed become a firm Protestant, and his numerous Catholic associations were simply a matter of personal kindness. We cannot be certain. At the most basic level, the options are that he was either a Protestant who, for no other reason than kindness of heart, and in spite of the risks, extended his favour towards numerous Catholics; or that he regarded himself as essentially a Catholic who conformed merely because if he had been honest about his religion, he would have faced massive personal cost and his career would have been ended. In practice, he sat somewhere on a blurry line between (mostly) conforming Catholics and strongly anti-​Puritan Protestants. Whichever side of that line he was on, he regarded those on the other side essentially as allies against the real threat of puritanism. Determining which side of the line he sat on may be impossible, yet the fact that such a zone existed and was occupied by senior Elizabethan ministers is significant. Hatton’s demonstrably positive attitude to a wide range of English Catholics is in striking contrast to what is regarded as the dominant attitude of the Elizabethan regime.

Neil Younger, Religion and politics in Elizabethan England: The life of Sir Christopher Hatton

[bwv572]

My church is about to make a huge blunder. They're really pushing hard on this Spanish Mass, which just makes no sense. This isn't a Latino neighborhood, they're not going to get Spanish speakers to come to this, and even if they did, the Spanish speakers are most likely Catholic and would feel tricked or deceived if they came to a Missa at a protestant church.

I proposed to do Evensong on Friday. When our church used to have daily mass, Friday evening was our most popular day. We can't have eucharist since we don't have a priest for it, but we could do evensong, which could be led by laity, and which is the most popular liturgy from the Anglican tradition. Even catholics say they love evensong and wish the catholic church did it. It would be a draw for all the people that miss the Friday mass, the surrounding anglicans who only get to go to evensong once a year, and maybe for catholics who want to attend an Anglican liturgy without the sacraments. They aren't interested in this at all. They want to do the Spanish mass.

But worse of all, the only "priest" they can find for the Spanish mass is a female priest. If they let a woman behind the altar, there go all the traditionalists in our church. In our 140 year history, a woman has never been behind our altar or touched any of sacramentals. Our niche in the area is that we are the one episcopal church that has never and will never accept woman's ordination. They're about to throw that niche away to bring in maybe 3 or 4 Hispanics that know nothing about the Church of England or its worldwide communion. They're gonna lose half the congregation over this.

And their attitude is "well, it's not like we're going to be attending it. We don't speak Spanish." They don't understand that it's not about whether we go to it or not, it's about us endorsing the concept, and us allowing the altar and sacramentals to be desecrated by somebody without proper holy orders.

Right now, Rome is opening the door to having full communion with Anglican churches, and what is the ONE singular requirement that they have demanded? No female priests. These people are so stupid, allowing themselves to shoot themselves in their feet like this in such a historic moment, when our church was an "Anglo-Papalist" church, that is, the movement that sought reconciliation with Rome and tried to become as catholic as possible within the Anglican confines.

And my girlfriend is gonna lose all respect for my church if they do this. I can't have that.

[marianrevisionist]

Like the rest of England, Mary had lived for twenty years without the pope, and with the strong Henrician emphasis on biblical authority and the rooting out of superstition. It is probable that this had some influence on her religious attitudes. It is notable that she never went on pilgrimage, and nor did she restore the shrines of St Thomas Becket at Canterbury, St Cuthbert at Durham or the Virgin Mary at Walsingham. Many of her leading churchmen had been key figures in Henry’s Church, and most had had a humanist education. The queen’s first attempts to set religious affairs in order saw her returning the Church to how it had been in 1547, before Edward’s changes, rather than 1533 before the break with Rome. Many who wrote in support of her Catholic restoration did so drawing on their experience during her father’s reign: Roger Edgeworth, for example, published a book of sermons in 1557 which were, he explained in the preface, the fruit of over forty years’ preaching. He lamented the heresies of Luther, but he also spoke approvingly of how Henry VIII had sought to combat them, casting the king as a bastion of Catholic belief. His definition of the Catholic Church was a universalist, rather than a papalist one: ‘universall or whole over all the world, not muttering in sundry corners of countryes, as heretikes have imagined theyr Churches’.

Tudor England: A History, Lucy Wooding

[die-seinsfrage]

Remember, remember

The 5th of November, but why?

Whilst it is now a visual spectacle of arial pyrotechnics that captivates adults and children alike, it is actually an annual UK celebration of the Gunpowder Plot of 1605. A daring plan by a group of recusant papalists conspired to blow up Parliament, kill King James I and bring about an uprising intended to return a catholic monarch, or one with papal sympathies, upon the throne.

Though there were 13 conspriritors it was Fawkes who was found and arrested whilst guarding the explosives the plotters had placed, in the leased undercroft, beneath the House of Lords.

An Act of Parliament was subsequently passed, nominating the 5th of November as a day of thanksgiving for the "joyful deliverance of James I".

Bonfire night, as it is now known, is celebrated all over the UK except St Peters School in York; they do not burn a "Guy" out of respect of one of their own. Guido Fawkes, as he was also known, was born and educated in York.

In the 17th-century, it was traditional for traitors to be hung, drawn and quartered in public. The "hanging" was not designed to kill and the accused would still be alive for the remainder of the sentance. However, whilst waiting to be hung, Fawkes leapt off the gallows and broke his neck, thus avoiding having his stomach sliced open and his testicles cut off in public. His body was still quartered and despatched to the 'four corners of the kingdom' as a warning to others.

It is recorded, that after 2 days of questioning and tourture Guy Fawkes finally broke and acknowledged the plot and his conspiritors, some who were now travelling around the country ready to raise a rebellion.

He admitted to planning to blow up the House of Lords and he regretted his failure. His resilience earned him the praise of King James I, who said "Fawkes possessed 'a Roman resolution."

According to James Sharpe, professor of history at the University of York, Guy Fawkes, was probably "the last man to enter Parliament with honest intentions"!

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Suffering is a gift we can give to God. It is a gift that only the person who is suffering can give. When we understand its value and offer it for love of God and the good of others, then we also find that suffering brings joy Certainly good works are of great value, but pains and trials borne with love and patience are worth even more. Love can transform even the smallest pain and make it a worthy act of adoration.

No one loves suffering for itself. But to suffer out of love, and in an attitude of acceptance and trust, is to follow Jesus.

St. Peregrine, the Cancer Saint, is an example of just such trust. As a youth in Forli he took an active part in the anti-papalist politics of his town. Father Philip Benizi was sent to Forli by the Pope to act as a mediator, but he was insulted and mistreated by the townspeople. A group of young troublemakers, led by Peregrine, at tacked Fr. Philip and drove him from the town. Peregrine himself struck the saintly priest on his face. Fr. Benizi’s only reply was to offer theother cheek. Peregrine could not forget the look in the holy priest’s eyes—a look of compassion, love and pardon. Peregrine’s whole life changed and took on a new meaning. He begged Fr. Philip’s forgiveness, left aside his former way of life, and dedicated himself to prayer and solitude.

During this time he developed a trusting and childlike confidence in the Blessed Mother. On one occasion Mary spoke to him and urged him to join “her servants”—the Servites. Fr. Philip Benizi received Peregrine into the order. After Peregrine had been ordained a priest, he asked to return to Forli to work among his own people. His favourite places were the hospitals, the prisons and the homes of the poor. He spent his days and nights visiting the sick and the dying, and comforting them by his presence, his words and his actions.

A life of poverty and penance eventually left its mark on the aging Fr. Peregrine. A painful and repulsive cancerous sore developed on his leg. Yet, he bore this suffering without complaint. To save his life, however, the doctors decided to amputate. Surgery was a great risk in those days. Peregrine was afraid and spent the night before the operation in prayer. Suddenly the figure on the crucifix above him began to move! Jesus came down and touched the painful sore, then disappeared. Father Peregrine thought it had been a dream but he was cured! The doctors themselves testified that they could no longer detect any trace of the cancerous sore. For this reason St. Peregrine has been designated the patron of all who suffer from any type of cancer.

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[elsborja]

Qui plus? Où est le tiers Calixte,    Dernier decedé de ce nom,    Qui quatre ans tint le Papaliste?    Alphonse, le roy d’Aragon,    Le gracieux duc de Bourbon,    Et Artus, le duc de Bretaigne,    Et Charles septiesme, le Bon?…    Mais où est le preux Charlemaigne!

En un vers de François Villon

[die-seinsfrage]

Remember, remember

The 5th of November, but why?

Whilst it is now a visual spectacle of arial pyrotechnics that captivates adults and children alike,

it is actually an annual UK celebration of the Gunpowder Plot of 1605. A daring plan by a group of recusant papalists who conspired to blow up Parliament, kill King James I and bring about an uprising intended to return a catholic monarch, or one with papal sympathies, upon the throne.

Alhough there were 13 conspriritors it was Fawkes who was found and arrested whilst guarding the explosives the plotters had placed, in the leased undercroft, beneath the House of Lords.

An Act of Parliament was subsequently passed, nominating the 5th of November as a day of thanksgiving for the "joyful deliverance of James I".

Bonfire night, as it is now known, is celebrated all over the UK except St Peters School in York; they do not burn a "Guy" out of respect of one of their own. Guido Fawkes, as he was also known, was born and educated in York.

In the 17th-century, it was traditional for traitors to be hung, drawn and quartered in public. The "hanging" was not designed to kill and the accused would still be alive for the remainder of the sentance. However, whilst waiting to be hung, Fawkes leapt off the gallows and broke his neck, thus avoiding having his stomach sliced open and his testicles cut off in public. His body was still quartered and despatched to the 'four corners of the kingdom' as a warning to others.

It is recorded, that after 2 days of questioning and tourture Guy Fawkes finally broke and acknowledged the plot and his conspiritors, some who were now travelling around the country ready to raise a rebellion.

He admitted to planning to blow up the House of Lords and he regretted his failure. His resilience earned him the praise of King James I, who said "Fawkes possessed 'a Roman resolution."

According to James Sharpe, professor of history at the University of York, Guy Fawkes, was probably "the last man to enter Parliament with honest intentions"!