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shihalyfie · 2 years ago
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I feel like a lot of people ask you about meta (which makes sense considering your content), so just to shake things up a bit, what do you think is the coolest thing Digimon has done?
This is kind of a more meta (as in, "not strictly related to story") thing, but I really like how dedicated the new card game has been to recreating anime scenes and concepts through gameplay. For instance, the way the Eosmon deck works:
You may include up to 50 cards with the same card number as this card in your deck.
(Note that with the card game’s usual rules, you’re only allowed to run max 4 of the same card.)
Then add in the Menoa card:
Your Turn When you play an [Eosmon], you may rest this Tamer. If you do, reveal the top 3 cards of your deck, and add either 1 Tamer card or 1 Digimon card whose name contains [Eosmon] among those cards to your hand. Return the remaining cards to the bottom of your deck in any order. Opponent's Turn As long as you have an [Eosmon] in play, all opponent Tamers will not turn Active during the Active Phase.
Or in other words, the Menoa card lets you populate your side of the play area with tons of Eosmon (like with the swarm of Eosmon in the movie), and while she’s active with an Eosmon, all of the opponent’s Tamers are incapacitated (because she dragged them into Neverland). Then when you get to Ultimate-level Eosmon:
For every Tamer you and the opponent have in play, you may choose 1 Lv.5 or below [Eosmon] from your Trash and place it at the top of this Digimon's Evolution Bases in any order.
...so, as with the movie, Ultimate-level Eosmon is formed by the absorption of lower-level Eosmon corresponding to the Chosen Children who were dragged into Neverland. Very fun.
Or as another example, the recent Masaru card:
Beginning of Your Main Phase If you have a Digimon with [Agumon] or [Greymon] in its name in play, by paying 1 memory, for the turn, this Tamer is also treated as a 3000 DP Digimon that cannot evolve. Your Turn When this Tamer becomes Rested, 1 of your Digimon may evolve into a Yellow card with [Greymon] in its name in your hand without paying the cost.
Treating Masaru as “a 3000 DP Digimon that cannot evolve” is basically another way of saying that Masaru is allowed to attack one of the opponent’s Digimon directly. When a Digimon attacks, once the attack is complete, you’re supposed to “rest” the card (turn the card sideways). So the intended play with this card is
Masaru and Agumon/Greymon are on the field
Masaru attacks an opponent Digimon
Masaru’s card is put in Rest state
When Masaru’s card is put in Rest state, Agumon/Greymon gets a free evolve
...so in other words, Masaru punched a Digimon and his partner evolved.
For more of a story development, though...well, you see, because Wikimon has an implicit job of chronicling every possible known Digimon evolution line, the mods and editors at Wikimon have been going through nightmares every time Digimon introduces another weird evolution mechanic (the card game especially has been troublesome for them), but I’m still laughing at the fact that Xros Wars actually going there resulted in this being on Shoutmon X7 Superior Mode’s page for a while.
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It’s since been replaced with something more organized, but it’s still funny. Digimon Wiki has a different policy regarding evolutionary lines, but I remember they still went through a whole problem of “how the hell do we categorize this?!” for a while. I apologize to any wiki staff or editors reading this for whom this was probably a lot less funny, but there is something to be said about a story development so ambitious that it breaks all of the fan categorization attempts.
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agumonger · 2 years ago
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Here's a Digimental comm for @oxythedigiguy !!
Digimental of Loyalty, based on Siesamon!
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raidark · 2 years ago
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I wish I knew the secrets of success in tumblr that @agumonger and @oxythedigiguy had somehow learnt
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shihalyfie · 2 years ago
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I haven't watched Adventure in a while so I don't remember if this is implied or stated, but I think the Adventure partners were created by Homeostasis from the kids' traits, while the 02 Digimon already existed and were "assigned" to a human. How do you think this ties into the idea that Digimon are part of the human soul? Are the 02 kids and Digimon different in how their partnership works?
The in-universe answer is that they don't know either! More specifically:
Oh, is that so? That’s surprising. I didn’t expect that not even you would know what countries the Chosen Children come from when they go to the Digital World… It’s Qinglongmon that’s helping you, is it, Gennai-san? Do the other Holy Beasts who have revived not know either? The Digital World is still so full of mysteries. I’ll do my best to look for them over here.
In other words, even Gennai and Qinglongmon are trying to figure out this whole thing about how Chosen Children and partnerships work, and not all partnerships seem to be formed under their jurisdiction (in fact, Gennai seemed to have been unaware of the kids before the Adventure ones). I think the best way to think of it is that Digimon are meant to be manifestations of youkai or other similar beings, so the way they interact with and connect with humanity can depend on the case.
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shihalyfie · 2 years ago
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Do you have any Digimon you like so much you consider your partner?
I don't know if I would say it's my favorite Digimon, but I used to have a Mishima Erika icon and had the blog named "Wormmon apologist" (in reference to both 02 and Hacker's Memory), so I've definitely developed a bit of an attachment. Ah, but my icon is Saki now, so I guess I should show up a little more for Floramon, huh...
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shihalyfie · 2 years ago
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You already talked about Yggdrasil at length a while back, but what are your thoughts on the soft-reboot as a whole, compared to the previous state of Digimon lore?
Hmmm, it's hard to say. At the time the "soft reboot" happened, I wasn't particularly knowledgeable about any of the background lore -- even now I don't actually consider Digimon lore to be my particular point of expertise, it's just that when you've been watching the Internet fandom for all these years and reading more wiki pages and blog editorials than you can count, you end up learning things along the line. But back then my awareness didn't really go much further than the anime and Digimon Story, so I didn't really "witness" what changed all that much with Digimon lore, and therefore didn't feel the change as viscerally as much as other people did.
So I will say that my view of that "soft reboot" is probably biased in a positive direction for the simple reason that I like Savers a lot, so of course I like things that are related to it. If anything, I dislike the overmilking of Yggdrasil and the Royal Knights that it led to, but that's something I hold more against all the works milking X-Evolution and Savers more than I hold against those two works themselves. And I love Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth (I also do like the original Digimon Story, even if I would have a much harder time recommending it to someone who's not already a hardcore Digimon fan), so I guess I would say I think we got a lot of good out of it?
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raidark · 2 years ago
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Hey @oxythedigiguy i present you to a question I'm sure you'll like
Madoka and the girls' Digimon Partners? And their evolution lines?
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agumonger · 2 years ago
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hold and slide up! @oxythedigiguy
I just found oit you can quickreblog on mobile by holding the reblog button and sliding up
(Idk how it works for ppl with more than one blog)
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