#orym would be crushed if they lost imogen. but if it meant they defeated the vanguard and predathos it would be a worthwhile sacrifice
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when considering Ashton's reasoning about Imogen continuing to give in to Predathos, that her being lost is inevitable and that it would be better if it happened now as opposed to later, it feels very important to remember what they said to Laudna when they first landed in Issylra, when she was terrified Imogen had become a moon-worshiping zombie in their separation: If she got blasted into space, we'll go to space. If she got vaporized, it's not like we didn't fucking find you. There is nothing else until this is dealt with. This is what we do, is we bring everybody back. Not only is nobody getting left behind very much Ashton's thing, but he specifically does not see Imogen being lost to Predathos as her being lost for good. (and tbh I agree, given how heavily the story since the start of the campaign has been leaning on her to confront this.) And even if it did, they'd still go through hell trying to get her back.
But it also makes me think of what Imogen told Ashton, after the shard; maybe this was destiny, like they thought it was. Maybe what they needed was to shatter into pieces and come back together. That same idea, of controlled burning, needing to confront something to overcome it, fuck yeah, jump into that lava and find yourself, to hurt is to heal - Ashton, we watched you break into a thousand tiny pieces. If she got vaporized, it's not like we didn't fucking bring you back.
#critical role#imogen temult#ashton greymoore#cr spoilers#this is not to say they're CORRECT about any of this btw. but i saw Takes acting like Ashton said what he said#with the belief that this would be the end of Imogen as we know her and that its inevitable she be unhappy. and like.#classic 'Ashton is deeply pessimistic and sucks bad but also you're missing something pretty fundamental abt the character' moments.#and i had already been thinking of the post shardgate moment in this context so.#crposting#cr#also i will just run back in and add that you can't just attribute the same perspective on this to ashton and orym even if they agreed#orym would be crushed if they lost imogen. but if it meant they defeated the vanguard and predathos it would be a worthwhile sacrifice#meanwhile ashton would tell the gods to go fuck themselves to their faces if the choice was between saving them and saving imogen#or any of the hells#you're so special#cr meta
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