#or stupidass jokes that anyone with a basic grasp of phonetics would understand to be completely baseless
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number one way to piss me off instantly is to trot out the wine dark sea as "evidence" that the ancient greeks "couldn't see blue"
first of all "wine dark" is not a literal translation, it's an interpretation of a metaphor that doesn't mention color at all and is comparing the choppiness of the sea to intoxication/drunkenness, not to the literal dark tone of red wine
second of all, if you think lacking a base word for blue is evidence of an inability to see blue, you don't understand how language works and are making ridiculous assumptions about people's biology and color vision from only a couple thousand years ago, based on a non-literal translation of one specific work
third of all they literally did have ways to discuss the color blue. but even if they didn't, not everything is identical to the american english language approach anyway, and there is generally no such thing as a universal trait in linguistics, so even something you take for granted being absent in another language isn't actually evidence for some kind of fundamental biological difference (frankly that veers too close to eugenics for my liking), and is just a different approach to contextualizing reality.
#nadia rambles#while i'm at it: the sapir-wharf hypothesis is fundamentally flawed#and ghoti is a stupid and ignorant ''linguistics'' joke that ignores contextual phonetics#despite the fact that context is REQUIRED for language to function including alternate phonemes for specific letterforms and digraphs#it is Not pronounced fish. why? gh is only /f/ following a specific combination of vowels#o is rarely if ever pronounced as /ɪ/ except in hyper specific mostly dialect based contexts#i don't even remember the reasoning behind t or i but i guarantee you it's just as bullshit#it pisses me off and isn't even a logical joke if you know even the bare minimum about phonotactics in english#and alternate or unusual pronunciations like this arose in specific patterns based on sound shifts and spelling changes#NOT at random with zero logic or consistency#--inb4 ''it's not that deep'' i don't care. stop buying into every super overblown clickbait claim you see online#or stupidass jokes that anyone with a basic grasp of phonetics would understand to be completely baseless
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