#or i might just keep arsene at this point tbh. using irene adler just feels wrong even if the backstories fit
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While doing research for female equivalents of Arsene, I discovered that the wikipedia page for fictional female thieves lists all of the phantom thieves girls except for Makoto and Futaba? Who made this lmao
And Irene Adler is there for some reason. I know that Arsene is supposed to be the rival of Sherlock Holmes so logically I would have to pick Irene Adler but she's not a thief or a criminal at all, it's just that so many versions of Sherlock Holmes tricked people into thinking she's a catwoman-like figure. In the original novel she's literally just an innocent opera singer who was being harassed by a king that she used to date. She did nothing wrong, stop slandering her.
Actually now that I'm typing this out, "woman accused of doing something she did not by a scummy politician who abuses his power and hires a detective to sell her out but she manages to outsmart said detective and escape" is basically joker's actual story... dammit. why does it fit. hang on.........
#am i onto something or am i losing my mind.#the yuri demons have taken over my brain and now idk if im cooking or im burning down the kitchen#or i might just keep arsene at this point tbh. using irene adler just feels wrong even if the backstories fit#joker is already very Gender to begin with anyway. i think a femjoker could definitely have a male persona#the fact that irene adler was given a bad reputation as a criminal over the years perfectly matches how joker was treated tho.....#for context im working on a masterlist of all my shuake yuri headcanons including the things that would change with their gender#so im changing some of their personas if it makes sense (loki for example would stay because shapeshifter god is gender neutral)#my post#p5r#p5#akira kurusu#p5r akira#phantom thieves#ann takamaki#haru okumura#sumire yoshizawa#persona 5#persona 5 royal
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