#op is profic

[rayday-mayday]

I seriously don't get why antis believe that SA ( or just sex in general ) and violence are so far removed from each other. Like, of course there's how both rape/SA and violent actions ( murder, battery, etc ) are illegal and harmful, but there's a lot more on top of that that links the two.

Like, there's how SA aka Sexual Assault literally has the word "Assault" in it. You know, which is a crime of it's own that involves physical violence sometimes. Saying rape/SA of any kind and violence aren't the same/linked, inherently takes away the violence of rape/SA.

We could also take a look at the BDSM scene, where stuff like choking, spanking, bruising, biting, etc are quite common kinks that obviously go alongside sex, which, once again, links the two subjects.

There's cannibalism which is inherently violent, but often sexualized in multiple different ways. Be it the classical soft vore fetish art you see online, or the metaphors where cannibalism and sex are woven together to show some deeper meaning.

And there's also how classical horror media and ( fictional ) non-con media can produce similar reactions in people. I know personally that when I read yandere x reader fanfiction ( both with- and without non-con elements ) it gives me this form of rush that has helped me cope with the urge to be abused. And just here a bit ago I was playing Doors ( yes, the Roblox horror videogame ) which gave me a similar rush of adrenaline.

I know part of the appeal of monsterfucking at times also ties into the fear and horror of the creatures, which ties into the violence and destruction these monsters can commit.

There's also how both violence and sex can be practiced safely if everyone involved is consenting, and have the proper safety precautions in place; and how both can also be traumatizing if done without consent and/or without the proper safety precautions.

As you can see just by those examples, sex, violence, fear, and trauma are incredibly closely linked. This isn't to say that sex is bad or that violence is good, but that denying that all those subjects are tied together, or that saying they aren't similar, is just flat out wrong.

Tbh there's probably more examples out there, too, but those listed above are just the ones I can think of at the moment. Feel free to add onto this in the reblogs/tags/comments if you can think of any. I just wanted to ramble about this after I realized how similar the rush I get from horror games is to the rush I get when I read darkfiction.

[pink-overdose]

Telling me I cannot ship something makes me ship it even more by the way

[entirely-strange]

"stop shipping it and you wont get harrased" yeah the same way gay people can stop being gay to avoid opression and weird kids can stop being weird to stop bullying right

[asses-to-ashes]

[showaboutdeath]

hey guys, "cringe culture is dead" means letting proshippers do whatever they want with fiction, hope this helps 👍

[phoenixleft1]

Things antis desperately need to learn -

- Posting anti rhetoric on AO3 of all places is laughable, pathetic and ignorant. You come to the site which has a founder who shipped both Thorki and Wincest, and you think we're about to listen to your incessant cries of 'but it's disgusting!', 'it shouldn't exist!' 'Character A would never see B like that, they're sibling coded!'.

- Censorship = bad. Do I seriously have to spell this one out for you? You are aware of the kind of people who burned books, right?

- Depiction ≠ Endorsement. If you wouldn't accuse people writing about fictional murder of killing people in real life, don't accuse incest shippers of supporting incest irl either.

- Don't like, don't read. No need to harass an author.

- Lolita is not endorsement of pedophilia. Nabokov was violently against the actions of Humbert Humbert. Level up your media literacy skills.

- Reading on AO3? Tags are there for a reason. Read them. It's up to you to curate your experience - if you read something you don't like, that's on you. Leave the author alone.

- Check the definition of incest for crying out loud. No, they're not 'sibling-coded', that's not incest.

- Be civil.

[boy-anon]

I feel safer around proshippers because the worse they'll say to me is "Not my thing but you do you" and we continue talking like normal meanwhile an anti would call me every slur and foul thing in the book and tell me to kill myself over fictional characters while in the same breath preaching "safety" and virtue signaling

Proship is not a crime Fiction is not fucking reality

[bird-machine]

"YOUR coping mechanism is bad because it didn't help ME"

[vampyreribbon]

any of yall ever notice that antis cannot look at normal ass nonsexual artwork without immediately sexualizing it?

i remember once i saw something on tiktok. it was artwork of a father kind of spinning around playfully with his toddler/baby daughter. the daughter had blush on her face, you know, for shading and to show that she's alive.

and i remember antis calling it weird, sexual, predatory, etc. and somehow WE are the creeps..?? nuh uh. that is weirdo behavior.

[rottingsuitcase]

why do people say theyre "recovering proshippers" like what are you recovering from? fun? whimsy? freedom?

[rayday-mayday]

I know this will probably be a pretty niche acceptance/positivity post, but for for the people who are minorities and fetishize/sexualize that part of themselves: You aren't a "bad example" for doing so.

Being a minority can be really traumatizing, and the trauma and abuse we endure can often go overlooked or be minimized. It isn't wrong for you to react to that trauma in a way where you attempt to take control back of your identity, even if that control takes the form of a sexual coping mechanism.

Personally, me being misgendered for 4 to 5 years fucked with my head a lot, and while that doesn't sound "that bad" to most since they've never endured that type of pain, it basically meant the people around me was ignoring and denying me my identity for pretty much my entire teen life which were already fucked over by other factors.

While I won't go into too much detail, all those years of having such an integral part of me denied ( especially during such formative years of my life ) lead to me developing a forced feminization kink as a trans man.

At times it can trigger my dysphoria, I have to be careful participating in it, and do my best to not oversexualize myself too much, but either way, I'm not bad for that happening to me nor am I bad for having the kink. Similarly, you're also not bad for it, no matter what your story looks like, nor how your kink manifested.

Even without any explicit trauma like that, being a minority that's just existing can be inherently traumatizing and scary as fuck. I mean, why wouldn't it be when the world around you is hostile towards you, be it overtly or covertly, simply for existing?

While I know you can also be into this type of stuff without having trauma like this, ( which is also just as valid, ) I've just never see anyone talk about this type of stuff in the sense of it developing from trauma, so I wanted to make a post like this in case anyone out there can relate and needs to hear this.

Cuz if I'm completely honest? It's kinda lonely and isolating to go through this type of stuff, due to how taboo it is to fx. be a trans person that fetishizes themselves. People can make you feel shameful for developing a kink like this, or for simply fetishizing yourself at all, since it can make those mentioned people label you as a "bad [insert whatever minority here]"

Just remember to pace yourself, know your limits before it starts to harm your mental health, and remember that at the end of the day you're more than just a sexual object; you're a person that deserves respect, love, and acceptance.

Even if you can't do any of those things just yet for whatever reasons, I'm sure you can work towards partaking in the kink you have in a healthy way eventually. I believe in you.

[comet-lover]

Giggles

If you use the term "Cheese Pizza" I am already not taking you seriously lol. If you tried to report to police an edit of two fictional characters, they would either ignore you or laugh at you.

And no, your job recruiter/college principal won't care about what headcanons/ships/edits you made. But they could care if you sent someone death/rape/dox threats/baits (sounds familiar, antis?) especially if it got popular.

[justafi5h]

petition to start calling antis "censorshippers"

[totallyanactualperson]

When antis try to counter the “ok if proship stuff is wrong than what about violence in fiction” it’s genuinely hilarious because they’re like “it’s not the same weirdo😠” when it literally is. Your fictional kinks don’t reflect your real life kinks or values guys don’t let anyone else convince you otherwise guys🫶

[dearestdrearilygirl]

Antishippers will look you dead in the eyes and use the jaw movie as proof that fiction affects reality even though that's one (1) example and ignore the hundreds of millions of examples of people watching horror movies and not turning into serial killers

[monster-lover-pride]

Antis be like:

"I can excuse murder, cannibalism, dismemberment, genocide, authoritarianism, shoot outs, militarism, destroying property, human sacrifice, so on and so on, but I draw the line at grooming!"

"You can excuse what now?"