#oneirotects lore

[meirimerens]

Picturing oneirotect triad as Gêryôn (three-headed/three-bodied giant from the Works of Heraklês) from red figure vase depiction where one of the three trunks dangles backwards from the waist, dead, still holding onto the shield, as the two other trunks carry on fighting. À propos de nothing.

Yeah this one. Grins.

[rathologic]

In all seriousness the farkhad saga is one of my strongest examples of p2's mishandling of original game spoilers and sensitive information... the way Peter says Farkhad's name, story and confesses to killing him with Andrey to some random haruspex on Day 5 unprompted if you happen to meet him in his therapy waiting room. Farkhad Was The Ambiguity Character! Hearing about this guy that the twins refuse to give concrete answers on was compelling in p1 because the Bachelor cares about them and the Oneirotects' legacy and it's useful to his understanding the buildings plotline. We could've become invested in the p2 twins through the Bachelor's relationships with them, justifying their placement together in Diurnal! We have no reason to care about this information as Artemy, except for the fact that it's a plot point that might be interesting about the Stamatins, which is being used to compensate for the Stamatins not being relevant characters to the Haruspex's route so that you still have a reason to talk to them. It's one of the only threads that gets follow-up if a major character dies, but Peter's Key With No Lock quest never has payoff in the sense of "finding out information that changes our view of the story", it's a generic errand where we aren't allowed to see the result. There's no reason to believe "Farkhad" is even a fake name in p2, per Peter's confession and Eva calling him that. Story information is the primary gameplay reward of the Pathologic franchise, and p2 constantly fails to understand its meaning or even acknowledge that it serves a purpose by handing out unattached lore like this :-/

[szilverer]

hewwo

made this blog primarily to dump oc content (so much oc content) & liveblog my playthrough. (its my first time engaging in a fandom space like this tbh. do lemme know if i mess up with tagging or etiquette or smth. more about me here)

my main FL acc (Hreisz) is from 2016 but i only really started playing last august! ive finished my ambition in october but theres still a lot i dont know about the lore n stuff. recently made two alts & am slowly getting around to write/draw nice profile pages for everyone. very very slowly.

"H. Reisz", aka The Twilight Phantom // The Clawed Captain | LF (Looked Upon Fondly) | Oneirotect Silverer | ???

Hyacinthe R., aka The Sombre Pursuer | Nem | future Correspondent & Seeker | English-Romanian

"Zé Brito" or "Sev", aka The Zealous Backlander | BaL | future Monster-Hunter | Mixed Brazilian-British

cameos & headshots for everyone here.

feel free to send a CC or even just random in-character letters & menace help reqs :3c im a lil rusty but i'd love to write more

always open to asks/interactions here as well, just keep in mind i might take A While to respond as i am but an hermit with the barest of executive functions

trying to use this hyperfixation to practice digital art so there'll be random experimental doodles here as i try to find out wtf i am doing. everytime i open a canvas its a surprise. youve been warned

tags:

#chaindoodles -> art tag, #chainrambles -> text tag #fl liveblogging, #fl memes, #flore (fl lore) #london as a catch-all for stuff that reminds me of the setting

#the twilight phantom -> the (main) blorbo

#nightmarriage -> my blorbo hoards trash. block this to be spared from witnessing their arguably most questionable decision (i.e chaining their stalker to themself so they won't be alone)

content warnings:

#light fingers spoilers (also general tag for LF) #nemesis spoilers, #evolution spoilers, #railway spoilers

just to be safe, i tag eyestrain/bright colours for some art.

#suggestive in case i draw (or write?) smth that can be perceived as saucy, spicy, horn knee, overtly kinky or implied nsfw. there wont be anything Actually explicit here though

i like #blood and injuring my characters both mentally and physically. so uh. that. possibly violence.? jokes aside, i like exploring heavy themes: mental health & psychological issues; abuse; general horror; death & grief; alienation; one's relationship with pain & self-destruction, intentional or not - these are all concepts that are gonna be present in the things i make one way or another. some mild religious iconography as well bc although im not religious i was raised catholic & i like playing w/ the aesthetic.

#body horror (mostly the shapeling arts kind)

??

#poor edward

So who's this "Twilight Phantom"?

I play a strict game with myself when it comes to my main blorbo: 98% of what the FLPC does, in the exact order i do it, is canon.

This also applies to small things like their possessions/wardrobe, for example - they pretty much only have the in-game items I own in the account to wear. Finding out reasons to explain why they keep the things they own is part of the fun. (this game made them out to be a weirdo, naturally)

It's been lots of fun to see this clean slate (and i do mean clean - i knew nothing about the setting/lore, or who they were as a person, so. well. this guy didn't either) get shaped by RNG, the narrative, And my mechanical wiki-fueled optimization decisions.

another extra rule i made for myself as a treat was making them a sponge to compensate for their inherent emptiness. this means they incorporate something from each important NPC they get involved with. they are a singer because of Clara and her twin. they only own a lab & got interested in studying & research bc of Dr. Vaughan. they got a taste for exercise bc they accompanied Hephaesta's workouts for so long. and so on and so forth.

they are also hyacinthe's (nemesis spoiler). write-up on the mechanics here.

ill make a better, dedicated profile post eventually but for now have a playlist + an old vague intro + some early refs below:

[last updated: never. this is my self-callout to write abt recent developments bc ohh boy evolution was an entire year's worth of timeline progression.]

The first thing you notice about them is the cowl lazily draped around their head and shoulders, swaying behind their back like a cape in the colours of sunrise-- or, perhaps most familiarly, the velvety twilight that the newest star every so often provides to London.  The second thing is the deep scars covering one side of their face, and the third thing would probably be the heavy eyebags under their sharp, dark eyes.

A relatively freshly-minted Silverer, H. Reisz spends more time in Parabola than London nowadays. Not that they had been in London for too long anyway, and it's not like anyone knows where they were before that either. The surface, yes, but it's a big world out there, right? They don't actually remember seeing the sun, or the sky, but H cannot deny the soft colours of twilight and sunrise have a special place in their heart. They recognise it without the memory of experiencing it, just like they recognised love in the depths of a certain Labyrinth. Hmm, two Labyrinths, actually. There was that one heiress too... and the Orphanage was inside one hell of a maze too... if they had a coin every time they found themself inside labyrinths, they'd... Uh, where were we? Well, anyway, being a new face, they had nothing to be known for so they simply gave out their surname instead. Or well, what they assumed to be their surname. "H. REISZ" were the letters sewn-in on a diminute corner of the tattered black veil that wrapped their head back when they woke up for the "first" time. They were surrounded by near-empty bottles of dried mouldy honey, absinthe, and who knows what else. Ah, the decadence... they couldn't even remember what honey could do at the time but they could recognise the stench of self-destruction right away, haha.  Alas, if things were so bad they got to that point-- maybe this explains why moving on was so easy. Maybe they had somehow lobotomized themself on purpose. Who knows? They sure don't. It was only now, a year or so after waking up, that an epithet has started to stick around-- specifically by their actions as a Silverer and the services they provided. From nightmare-slaying to fishing out vestigial memories (the irony of an amnesiac doing this is not lost on them) to guiding and safeguarding lost dreamers, their glimmering signature cowl and the way it flowed rather phantasmagorically in Parabola started to leave an impression. To many dreamers, seeing a hint of pastel twilight colors signaled safety. It signaled someone you could trust to get inside your head. :)

[pigeon-princess]

I love your Strahd art! Especially the NPCs. Just curious, is the current campaign you’re playing your first time playing Curse of Strahd?

THANK you so much!! At this rate I'm going to end up drawing every single NPC. I just love the whole module so much. This current Strahd campaign is my first ever time playing the module! My incredible DM @oneirotect has run Curse of Strahd a number of times now and he's changed up and added quite a few things for this particular run! (If you have any questions about it, definitely send them him way!) I feel very lucky to have a DM who is so enthusiastic about the lore and knows the module so well. Because this is my first time, there are still a lot of major plot points/NPCs that we've yet to uncover, so its very exciting!

Thank you so much for asking!

[meirimerens]

(Klytaimnestra in Agamemnon by Aeskhylos, translated by Anne Carson)

(Klytaimnestra in Agamemnon by Aeskhylos, translated by Victor-Henri Debidour)

"[...] overabundant justice, for he was so generous [lit. "he made good measure"], within this house, to the chalice of abominations : he empties it at his (re)turn !"

(same verse)

Nyehehehehe 😈

im rereading an oresteia (as i do) and

stamatins and farkhad… to me. you see it yes? the House of atreus brought low by the House of atreus….

you knooow it yourself brother

when you think about it Klytaimestra killing (even by proxy) Agamemnon to avenge her daughter's death (and ther things. but let's focus on her daughter's death) is just like [one of them] killing [that guy] to avenge for the Polyhedron's non-existence (death as a non-birth). or perhaps something else entirely for agamnenon is the atride, and tis the atrides whose bloodline is marred by murder, tis the atrides who descend from Tantalos, and tis Tantalos who was cursed to eternal desire. anyways what were we about

[meirimerens]

[meirimerens]

Hi I saw you posting about 3foldbullet and I want to ask if it's like a name for the dynamic between Daniil and the Stamatins or is it something else? I've heard conflicting information

hiii darling so the term "3fold/threefold bullet" comes from a line in day 11 of pathologic classic hd bachelor route, from andrey. the #lore is that, after going after andrey to try to save him from the mutineers who have gotten him [they actually hadn't] and gotten shot, dankovsky going to speak to andrey will uncover that he was believed to be Andrey himself [actually peter because they mixed the twins up][don't worry about it just know they thought it was andrey(peter)][this makes sense]. this absolute banger of a conversation will then happen:

"Andrey Stamatin: There's also a rumour that Andrey Stamatin, the architect that had murdered every soldier in his studio yesterday and set fire to a stone stairway later, was just executed by the mutineers. That's when the assault began. What is that supposed to mean?

Bachelor: That was me.

Andrey Stamatin: So I am you! The furnace of this catastrophe has molded me, my brother, and you into a single person… The fire of war has molded us into a threefold bullet. It's natural. We are one. The three sides of a single process."

i don't know what kind of conflicting information you've been given, but that line refers explicitly to andrey, peter, and dankovsky. it can be interpreted in multiple ways [which is the point of symbolism], for me personally it's part of andrey's [& by extension peter's] desire to like Encompass dankovsky into being the third side of a single coin, in the same way he and peter are "both side of a same coin". it's andrey insisting they see eye to eye, are a same, can and must be as a unit (as during these days, the Mystery of the polyhedron is slowly being uncovered).

tldr:

dankovsky andrey peter Dynamic (or Static!) (however you want to interpret it) from one of andrey's most banger lines. sometimes it's a name to shorten the group and talk about the three of them all at once [as a unit = denomination, in the same way you'd say The Utopians, or The Oneirotects], sometimes it is used to talk about the precise dynamic between the three (typically the Three Make One / desire to Encompass).

[meirimerens]

notice also the back and forth between translating as gods-hating and hated by the gods. mirrors of each other.

the greek word used is μισόθεον, with μισό "miso" = hatred, think "misanthrope" (miso = hatred & anthropos = humans) and θεον "theon" = god(s), think "theology" (theo = god(s) & logos = word, discourse, later on study).

miso-theon, hatred-god(s), which back and forth between translations is centered on the house that hates, or on the hate of the gods upon the house.

line in Aiskhylos' Agamemnon where Kassandra's verse is translated as having "house".

every translation i check has "house". i check some more, online, always the "house".

finding a compilation,

Robert Lowell's: "CASSANDRA: No, no, this is a meathouse. God hates these people."

Oliver Taplin's: "CASSANDRA: No, a house god-hating—"

Sarah Ruden's : "CASSANDRA: (shrieking) A house that hates the gods"

Richard Lattimore's: "CASSANDRA: No, but a house that god hates"

André Obey's (1956): "CASSANDRA: Ah ! dis plutôt maison de la haine des dieux" ("Ah ! say, rather, house of the gods' hatred")

Pierre Judet de la Combe's (2015): "CASSANDRA: Dis plutôt : une maison qui hait les dieux"("Say, rather, a house that hates the gods")

a word for "house" does not appear in the greek text.

[meirimerens]

😭😭😭

darling the literaly only 5 things we know of the guy from canon is that

he built the stillwater and the cathedral as part of the Oneirotects

(one of) the twins killed him

his name is NOT farkhad they just named him that, potentially posthumously

4. the twins built his tomb 5. he likes red :3

he's just a normal silly guy. don't even worry about it

the farkhad versatility spectrum / you know how it is with red wine