#one of my greatest fears is actually falling out of love with Kaze
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opendoorlorien Ā· 7 years ago
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I like reading ur char analysis and would love to see u write on abt ur man (Kaze) ;3c
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Soā€¦my precious Kazeā€¦ Heā€™sā€¦cuteā€¦lovelyā€¦smartā€¦ adorableā€¦irresistibleā€¦plusā€¦amazingā€¦ Donā€™t you think so? Oh, soā€¦wildā€¦beautifulā€¦kindā€¦ I love him! Hug himā€¦ Heā€™s warm and cuddlyā€¦ Oh, heā€™sā€¦spectacularā€¦captivatingā€¦simply divineā€¦ I treasure himā€¦ Oops! Look at the time! Iā€™ve kept you too long! Thanks for hearing me out.
Generally I think thereā€™s a difference between characters that are fleshed out and characters who go through actual development. Yes, many times those things coincide, but in Fire Emblem, if youā€™re not a main character, they usually donā€™t.
Basically none of the cast of Awakening ā€œdevelopedā€ in any real sense. Like I mentioned before there were some characters who had little moments or bursts of it (like Chrom and some villains) but no gradually, building arc for any of them. Instead most of Awakeningā€™s cast was fleshed out instead of developed. Meaning, the more supports you saw of them, the more you learned about them (like backstory, where they came from, what they want, ect). There are a lot of characters who have simple archetypes on the outside, but actually have a lot of layers and details to them the further you look, like Henry, Lon'qu, Virion ect.
I believe Kaze is one of the non royal characters in Fates who is not only very well fleshed out, but also goes through some nice character development. Like I said before, Fates did a little better on the character development front with its cast than Awakening. Disregarding the royals, there are some regular units who go places too. The only ones I can think of who go through any real development ON SCREEN are Flora, Gunter and Kaze. Flora and Gunterā€™s development mostly leads to a bad end (Gunterā€™s end in Revelations is kind of bitter sweet but I find it a tad more tragic and bitter than anything, though he is sort of heal now and put some demons to rest at least). While Kaze, instead, can have either good end or bad end depending on what YOU do. Which is kinda nice, you know. His character development is interactive lol.
There are also characters like Jakob or Hinoka who go through character development OFF SCREEN which we only find out about in supports and is only told to us. And I dont find these anywhere near as powerful because we dont get to see them happen, not that theyā€™re bad or anything, but lack a bit of poignancy because of how theyā€™re displayed to the audience as told instead of shown.
Iā€™ve heard Kaze described before as a deceptively complex character, and he REALLY is. At first glance he seems like a very simple and straightforward character with a personality to match. But take this from someone who hyper focuses on him, that the more you look into him, the more little quirks and details you begin to find. (Or maybe I can just see it because Iā€™m reading too deep into him lol) Either way, I wouldnā€™t consider it REACHING at all to call Kaze a complex character. And thereā€™s more to him than just his relationship to Corrin too, but just a bit. Because, of course, Kaze is very largely defined and effected by Corrin ANDā€“as I will be referring to it asā€“his one big fuck up in Cheve.
But setting Corrin and the effects of that fuckup aside, Kazeā€™s stoic and serious personality is mainly derived from him being raised from birth to be a human weapon owned and used by nobility, which is basically what a hoshidan ninja is. But out of the three ninjas in Fates, I think Kaze ended up as the most emotionally well off. And I think the biggest defining reason for that is because he didnā€™t have anything big to live up to. Saizo was messed up personality and emotionally wise because he was groomed from day one to take up the family name, and similarly Kagero fights as a ninja in place of her sickly brother and as to not disappoint her family and bring shame to them. But because Kaze doesnt really have anything like this, I believe his upbringing was a taaaad more chill, and because of that while he does seem emotionally stunted and a little robotic, he still ends up being the most personable, friendly and sociable of the three ninjas. (And I think heā€™s kind to others and goes out of his way to help them for another reason too but more on that later)
Okay so you canā€™t really talk about Kaze without also talking about Corrin. Because the shit that happened in Cheve FUCKED HIM UP and pretty much fundamentally changed and made him into who he is today, and the majority of his personality traits can be traced back to that incident. Now why did it fuck Kaze up so bad? A lot of reasons really. Firstlyā€“the big oneā€“he failed his duty. Not only as a retainer (it wasnā€™t official yet, but it was his JOB then to protect Corrin) but also as a ninja who, remember, are manufactured from day 1 to serve as weapons or menial otherwise for the royal family. So failing in his duty here was an extreme failing for him on almost every aspect as a person. And this is a big blow for him emotionally as well because Kaze is not heartless here, and this fuckup lead not only to Corrin being captured but to Sumeragi being killed as well. It was, in essence, the ultimate failing (if it sounds like Iā€™m blaming him here, Iā€™m not. I honestly think Garon would have found a way to fuck shit up whether Kaze had noticed those soldiers in Cheve or not. But from his eyes, this is how he sees things)
This affected Kaze so deeply that he furthermore refers to this failing as a ā€˜grave sinā€™ heā€™s committed, and one that he believes he canā€™t and has no right to be forgiven for. The loss of Corrin and Sumeragi then by extension created a huge avalanche effect by ripping a huge hole in the hearts of the Hoshidan family and the country itself, which Iā€™m sure Kaze got to see the full and gradual effects of as the years went by. Ouch. (Iā€™m sure heā€™s very aware of Sakuraā€™s anxiety and Takumiā€™s many many issues being after effects of what went down in Cheve also.) AND WAIT, it GETS WORSE. As if this wasnā€™t bad enough for Kaze who, REMEMBER, was a child at the time, probably no older than 15, knew that Corrin was also being taken away to Nohr. Which is a country heā€™s only ever heard bad things about, so he had no reason to believe Corrin wasnā€™t suffering and going through hell there, which in his mind would have been HIS FAULT. (And if he heard any of Azuraā€™s firsthand account horror stories of the place, he had no reason not to believe that Nohr was a hellhole.) So add that to the guilt
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So basically, this was the worst thing that could have happened for everyone involved (sans for Garon, or maybe even the Nohr family because they got a nice new sibling) but for Kaze and the Hoshidans?Ā This was beyond rock bottom. Itā€™s no wonder Kaze as a character is so largely defined and also deeply wounded by this incident.
In Kazeā€™s eyes heā€™s 100% to blame here, and because he believes he can never be forgiven for this act, he thinks the only way to atone for it is to die. In fact he probably went to Mikoto right after everything went down, told her what happened and insisted on the death penalty. But of course Mikoto is a nice lady so she said pish posh to that Kaze, forgave him, and tried to get him to keep living. Now even though Kaze wants to die, heā€™s not just going to sudoku or throw his life away needlessly.
To atone for this sin he knows heā€™d need to give his life away for a reason or an honorable purpose.Ā So instead of just dying he does continue to live, and uses his life for the betterment of others. And this is where his constantly friendly and helpful attitude comes from. Okay now I DO fully believe Kaze is honestly just a nice guy and enjoys helping people, but I also think he makes an effort to go OUT of his way to help people as his own way of atoning for that one big failing even just a little. Like his worth is defined by how he assists others and improves their lives, whether heā€™s entirely aware of that or not. If he is able to make someone happy and improve their QoL, then it means heā€™s not an entirely useless failing of a person and a ninja like he thinks he is. Ā 
This is also why in turn Kaze has such a low opinion of himself. I donā€™t think its something you really notice till you take a closer look at his supports and things, but every now and then he drops off handed derogatory comments about himself. That heā€™s just ā€˜a lowly ninjaā€™, he humbly denies any praise sent his way just writing it off as ā€œwhat I did was nothing specialā€, he marks himself as a determent to things even when he wasnā€™t. Because of what happened in Cheve, he doesnā€™t see any worth in himself.
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(^heā€™s talking about chapter 4 here, where he showed up in the map with VULNEARIES for you. So he was only an asset, and yet)
(+this is also why Kaze doesnā€™t like the affections he gets from random women. THEY see his charm, but he doesnā€™t. And he doesnt see WHY they think so highly of him. He doesnā€™t think he deserves the praise and being showered with it makes him feel uncomfortable and upset. Since how can he be a good man when, in his eyes, heā€™s done so muhc wrong)Ā 
So while Kaze is actually a very nice, sweet, helpful and kind well meaning guy, he actually has a REALLY deep self loathing and low opinion of himself. Heā€™s kind of in an eternal rut that he canā€™t get out of, and doesnā€™t believe he deserves to get out of. So the only way to really get him out of it is of course Corrin. And luckily they run back into each other again very early on in Fates. Even though Kaze successfully helps in bringing Corrin back home to Hoshido, heā€™s still not completely healed here yet because his real issues havent really been addressed and RESOLVED. Corrin is back but they still dont know about Kazeā€™s involvement during that night in Cheve. And Kaze wants to tell them. He wants to let Corrin know about the whole deal (since Kaze is the kind of person who believes talking and communicating about your problems is the healthy and beneficial thing to doā€“like its one of the main things he does in his support with Saizo) but of course while the wound has kind of closed, it still hurts. Heā€™s perfectly happy with being cordial and friendly with Corrin, but he doesnā€™t want to open up to Corrin too much because heā€™s super afraid that if Corrin finds out about what happened in Cheve, then Corrin would hate him. Which is why in their support he goes to lengths to avoid telling Corrin about it.
Their support is really special to me because it addresses a lot of Kazeā€™s deep rooted personal issues in which NO OTHER Kaze support even attempts at. Think about it, pretty much EVERY single other Kaze support is about Kaze helping someone else. But in Corrin and Kazeā€™s support, itā€™s about Corrin helping HIM, which is what he NEEDS more than anything. And it starts simple at first too, like with Corrin noticing he has a low opinion of himself and trying to show him ā€œthe good in himselfā€ which he FERVENTLY believes he doesnā€™t have.Ā 
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So when Corrin keeps telling him heā€™s a good person, it actually really upsets him (to the point heā€™s actually angry??????!!!!! which I think is one of the only occasions in game or any other supports Kaze gets even close to being miffed. Which I think goes to show just how deeply this shit affected him right).
Corrin isnt upset that Kaze got mad with them, but Corrin realizes they bugged Kaze in one way or another so backs off. But Kaze felt super bad about it, so in the A rank he decides to GET THIS SHIT ALL TOGETHER AND TELL CORRIN EVERYTHIN. Luckily for him Corrin is a good person and also pure of heart (and can see everything was just a REALLY bad turn of Fate, not one individual personā€™s fault) so they IMMEDIATELY forgive him and tell him something important he REALLY needed to hear all these years.Ā 
That from the person he failed that night, everything that happened wasnā€™t his fault.
Corrin encourages him to come to terms with everything and move forward from it. And this is where the concept of Kaze giving his life for Corrin ļæ½ļæ½ļæ½splitsā€.Ā 
I mentioned earlier Kaze has good end character development and bad end character development. If you get his A rank in every route then GOOD FOR YOU, heā€™s healed! So now instead of dying to atone for his sin, he decides to devote his life to your well being and happiness (Giving Kaze heal settles him back into the place where he was always meant to be, as Corrinā€™s retainer. He even says in the A rank that, while he was meant to be a servant and retainer, he was never given a single master to serve like Saizo and everyone else had. And AS a person who was RAISED to be a kind of living weapon or tool, this really disconcerned him. He had no one and nothing to specifically devote to. Itā€™s like he was a tool made for a certain purpose, but that purpose was taken away. So imagine the years he must have spent living in the castle, seeing all the retainer and lord squads together and feeling a sense of loss and emptiness in himself because he didnā€™t have that and he didnā€™t know why. I think even the Hoshido family, whether they know it conciously or not, kind of see him as an odd one out and I donā€™t think they really knew what to do with him aside fromĀ menial bitch work like delivering letters and crap.SMH
Anyway, now that heā€™s got you again his PURPOSE has returned. And he reminds you whenever he can, whether youā€™re married to him or not, that his life is YOURS now and heā€™ll give it up if necessary to keep you going.
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And he will and DOES.
Now while Kaze still readily says heā€™ll give his life for you, I think its said in a better spirit than it was pre-healing. I think the difference is illustrated very well in the good end and bad end of Birthright chapter 15.
Where if heā€™s NOT healed his only thoughts are to get you out of this alive, himself be damned. (Heā€™s also really emotional at the time and not thinking very clearly because ofā€¦ā€¦.obvious circumstances. So in the short window he has, the question is posed to him ā€œsave Corrin or save yourselfā€ and of course he gives himself to save Corrin (which I think is even more super interesting if you consider that you married him to someone else who isnt Corrin. Because in this moment, no matter WHO Kaze is married to, if he didnā€™t get that A rank with Corrin, he is going to die here. Corrin is the only thing that can keep him alive here, and when push comes to shove, Kaze throws away >everything
While if he IS healed Kaze has put most of the emotional anguish and baggage behind him so he is able to think through the tense situation of dangling off a cliff 500000000000000000 miles in the air, and find a way to save THE BOTH of you. Which is definitely the most definitive example between healed!Kaze and nothealed!Kaze. (Although I still do think if it came down to it, heā€™d still risk everything for Corrinā€™s life, even if that meant sacrificing his own. Itā€™s just now throwing his life away isnt at the forefront of his mind.)
So with Birthright out of the way, what about that Conquest! Now of course Conquest is a super interesting route for Kaze too because it puts him in another kind of extreme situation. And that is him leaving everything that he ever knew and loved in Hoshido to help you, fight for the dream you believe in, and assist you in achieving your goals. And yes this is another way of Kaze trying to atone for his sin. I think itā€™s at least half the reason he decides to defect and join you, but he also says he felt your conviction when you fought, and he firmly believes in your justice, and that you are fighting for the betterment of everyone. So heā€™s not entirely fighting for ONLY you here, but fighting to help you achieve peace in the way youā€™ve chosen, by going to Nohr.
Kaze is interesting in both routes but I think heā€™s slightly more interesting in Conquest, and also because BR treats him like heā€™s dead after ch15 even if you kept him alive.
In Conquest Kaze has two interesting moments, one in chapter 11 where he makes the choice to turn his back on everything in Hoshido for you and go to your side. And in the ninja cave chapter later on in Conquest where we run into Saizo. Which is a nice chapter and I think is executed MUCH better than the Mokushoku crap in Birthright. Firstly because Saizo tells Kaze and the audience that Kotaro is the one who killed their father, which in BR you only find out if you send Saizo to personally engage the dude. And because of that in Conquest, I like to make a point to have Kaze blow the guyā€™s shit to pieces.Ā 
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hehe get fucked
BUT post-battle we have a small neato moment too where Corrin expresses regret and says to Kaze ā€œif you hadnā€™t come with me then you wouldnā€™t have to fight against Hoshido and your brother.ā€btw briefly touching on Saizo and Kaze here, or at least how Kaze feels about him. Even though theyā€™re not super personal and close with each other, of COURSE they love each other theyā€™re gd family. I think Kazeā€™s feelings toward Saizo are mostly respect and admiration. Kaze says in the drama CD he thinks very highly of Saizo and nothing will ever change that. Even if they are enemies, Kaze does what needs to be done to achieve the peace he believes in, and the peace Corrin is fighting for.And thatā€™s what he tells Corrin. Both Hoshido and Nohr are fighting for what they believe to be ā€œjusticeā€ (
Thereā€™s also the interesting possible circumstance of this happening
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This has the potential to be a really interesting scene in A LOT of ways (like, think about this for a sec. Not only is Kaze killing his brother, heā€™s also taking the Saizo name down with it). So we could have got some neat dialogue or a cutscene here to explore this scene a bit, but unfortunately they were making three games here and this ALREADY happens in late game conquest, so unfortunately the developers just didnt have the time or energy to give us a good scene here.And I get it, like, not everyone is going to have Kaze kill Saizo here. It would have been nice if they got one short exchange here. But, I guess thatā€™s what fanfictions are for.
Now with all of THAT out of the way.
How do I personally feel about Kaze? WELL OHOHOHO*SCREAMS FOR 5 YEARS*
For me, personally. Kaze just does everything in the right way. Iā€™ve had a lot of husbands over the years who Iā€™ve loved in varying states of intensity and over varying periods of time. But I feel like none of those old hoes comes anywhere close to the ā€˜perfect blend of everything rightā€™ that is Kaze.
If he were a cake heā€™d be the perfectly made chocolate cake. Sure chocolate cake seems kinda average and ā€œthe usualā€ at first, but imagine you had one which just had the PERFECT amount of everything prepared in the absolute perfect way to the best effect, and the more you dug into it you found like a gooey strawberry center which made the flavor all the more complex and interesting.
Kaze also subverts VERY many of the pitfalls that have made me fall out of older husbands that had similar archetypes to him.
I like serious characters but not characters who are TOO serious (Lonqu suffers from this, and, looking back, Frederick is VERY rigid). But with Kaze? DW ABOUT THAT because he has a spicy and playful side. And heā€™s also CHILL.
Kaze seems almost obsessively devoted to Corrin which could potentially lead to bad end yandere? DONT WORRY ABOUT THAT, IT TURNS OUT HEā€™S ACTUALLY A WHOLESOME PUREBOY who respects personal boundaries and doesnā€™t want to be smothering.
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With his personality he might be boring and not go anywhere as a character? (Frederick was kind of like this) DONT WORRY WEā€™VE GOT A++++ DEVELOPMENT and putting him in interesting character situations.
And any other issue I can think of for not liking Kaze is always subverted in a similar sense. Just everything he doesā€¦ he does it so right. He may not be a big main character and he may not be pushed to any extreme radical limits like he potentially could be or like some other characters are like Takumi or Xander (again, another place for fanfics) THAT DONT MATTA TO ME BECAUSE HE IS A BEST.
Honestly heā€™s probably the best husband Iā€™ve ever had and while I generally am fickle and my opinions on things can usually waver and change, I do really hope this love lasts a long, long time. Ā IM ALSO CRYING.
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