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hurricaneself · 6 years ago
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Jane the Virgin Ch 85 Rant SPOILERS for S5
Okay so a lot of people are saying they are proud of Raf for "standing up to Jane" when he kicked her out of their apartment. I heavily disagree, despite the fact that I want Raf and Jane together now. I don't disagree that Raf ALWAYS needed to take more steps in the "standing up to Jane" department, merely cause he never learned how to properly express his feelings to her and reacted out of insecurity by being silent until he explodes. However, this current predicament and Raf's actions just aren't kosher for me, let me explain why though...
I feel like viewers- and Raf- aren't giving Jane enough time to process what's going on. I feel that Raf demanding Jane to make a decision within 48 hours of discovering Michael got his memories back, is 100% unfair. Further, kicking her out with a tone of finality, the night her mother is in the hospital, in front of their son... Is just a horrible route to take. I don't think the show has done a fully accurate portrayal of the type of grief and damage Jane went through in the first place this season. And since losing a husband while being a newly wed isn't something most people have experienced and thus can not fully grasp, I feel the show is setting up viewers to hate on Jane and root for Raf, due to inaccurately portraying her experience...
I, unfortunately, have experienced losing my husband in the newly wed stage. Let me tell you, it's NOT as easy as the show makes it seem. I get that it's a telenovella with comedy, and they needed Jane to move on inorder to continue the show. I was fine with it, they were portraying it pretty well, until the day of the dead flashback this season...
You see, when you're a newly wed and your partner dies. You don't just lose a piece of your heart/soul. You also lose an entire future you had planned and dreamed for yourself. Plus, you also lost your best friend, the person who you normally would turn to. THEN, when you enter the "acceptance phase" of grief- which the show has written Jane to have gone through- you experience that loss all over again but in a different way that's hard to put into words.
That's what Jane experienced and lived with for 4 years. Then all of the sudden, like the recent episodes have shown, Michael's back and those 4 years are expected to just erase. That wouldn't go over well AT ALL, which the show did do an alright job of portraying, but there's no way to fully and accurately portray that imho.
But Michael wasn't TRULY back at first, because he wasn't Michael anymore with the amnesia and had become Jason. Michael didn't fully come back from the dead to Jane, until he got his memories back. To her, Michael-Jason wasn't her husband, and that made it easier to leave him in her past and move on. So she does. But when he got his memories back, THAT is the moment Michael was back from the dead to Jane. And viewers and Raf expects Jane to make this instant decision? NO. That's not how it works. And honestly the way Raf acted when he FIRST brought back Michael-Jason, by giving Jane time and space to sort out how she felt, that is the way the situation should be treated when Michael got his memories back, cause like I said that's the moment Michael truly came back from Jane's POV.
So Raf expecting her to make that instant decision, NEVER taking the time to sit down and talk with her about all she is feeling- AND what he is feeling- then turning around and within 48 hours kicks her out of their home, forcing her away from their son, the same night her mother collapsed and was taken to the hospital, and doing that in front of their son- as if trying to make Mateo view Jane as the bad guy- was JUST PLAIN WRONG.
I mean Michael reacted to it properly imho, by telling her that he knew she needed time to process her feelings "while sitting on her porch swing with every member of her family." Michael GETS how hard it is for Jane, how Jane processes things, AND respected her by giving her the space and time she clearly needs WHILE having a REAL conversation about it with her... And Michael wasn't even there for the horrid grief train Jane rode like Raf was. So Raf looks like the one making the wrong decision here with his actions in contrast to that. I mean, Raf didn't even give her the chance to talk to him about it, he chose to walk away and be silent and he is supposed to be her best friend now... That's not how it works. ESPECIALLY since HE is the reason Jane is going through this in the first place. I mean it was HIS stepmother that kidnapped Michael, faked his death, and wiped his memories. It was Raf who brought Michael back to Jane. He had it right when he first brought Michael-Jason back, he acted just as he should, but I feel that he only acted properly then BECAUSE it wasn't REALLY Michael, so he knew deep down that Michael-Jason wasn't a threat... But the moment Michael TRULY returns -by getting his memories back- and therefore becomes an actual threat, Raf reacts irrationally.
Imho if Raf felt that he couldn't live with Jane while she makes this decision, I can respect that, but he went about it the wrong way. He should have left, not kicked her out in front of their kid as if she is the "bad guy" all because she needs time to process that her dead husband is now TRULY back from the dead to her, when he couldn't even sit down with her and have an actual conversation about it all with her, he just demanded she make the decision to choose him right there and then, while being all pissy about it. The moment he realizes that Michael is an actual threat, he acts like HE is the victim... Um no. His twisted family put Jane in this position AND caused her 4 years of intense pain AND stole an entire future from her AND put her through a grief process that forced her to change who she was to a certain degree (because that's what happens when you go through that type of grief).
Besides, anyone can see that Jane isn't the Jane who married Michael anymore, and really it is highly unlikely she would choose Michael over Raf now. I know that if my dead husband came back today, while I am living with my new fiance... I can't say I would choose my dead husband over my new fiance (and we don't even have a kid). It may sound horrible to people who don't get it, but the grief of losing him changed ME, and I am NOT the same person I was when I was happily married to him. Jane isn't either. And Michael even saw that and said himself that he understands that it's been 4 years and Michael is now Jane's past.
I feel as if Raf's actions only show his insecurity and how he never got over the fact that in the past Jane chose Michael. And it's been 4 years. And Michael "died." And Jane is in love with Raf now... But the moment Michael gets his memories back and becomes an actual threat to Raf... Raf reacts based on his fears and issues from the past all the while really not being a good friend, let alone life partner, to Jane by refusing to show even a smidge of understanding as to what she is now experiencing. Raf only thinks about HIS feelings once Michael comes back and HIS fears and doesn't even offer Jane a chance to have a real conversation with him about it... That's messed up. I honestly (for the first time ever) said aloud "you asshole" at Raf through this episode watching his reactions to the situation. He doesn't take any positive action- like sitting down and talking to Jane- but only reacts based on his unresolved issues from 4 yrs ago.
So no. I can not be happy that "Raf stood up for himself," because he didn't. He reacted to his own issues and took drastic action in the wrong way... He is acting like the Raf that belongs with the old Petra, NOT the honest Raf he has become... And I am honestly shocked that people are encouraging that behavior. It only pushes Jane away, and I know if my fiance acted that way if my dead husband returned from the grave, I wouldnt be inclined to marry him cause it tells me that he is incapable of handling the hard bumps of married life properly in the future. ESPECIALLY if my back from the dead husband was handling it properly like Michael is.
I don't want Jane to get back together with Michael. I want to see Jane enjoy her family life with Raf, while being able to have a positive friendship with Michael or at least be able to spend some time hanging out with the best friend Michael was to her in order for them both to heal the wounds from what happened. But instead they're writing Raf as immature, reacting to issues never resolved, which is a bloody shame as he and Jane had come SO far....
Okay. Rant ending. I have gone on long enough and even deleted a lot cuz I know this is looooong, oops? haha
Edit: SO I read other comments on reddit and decided to do a rewatch to check my biases and take another look at it all.... And I stand by my above statements. Yes, Raf has changed and done so much for Jane and continued to do so... But (adding to my above statement) asking a woman if she still loves her dead husband, regardless of whether he came back to life or not, and being upset that she does ISN'T OKAY. Raf expecting Jane to NOT love Michael, is way too high a bar to set. Even if she does choose Raf over Michael this time around, she still will love Michael cause he was her husband that she was robbed of, and she considered herself his widow for 4 yrs. When a woman is robbed of a husband so young, she will always love him, in fact it would be wrong if she didn't. Raf should have asked "are you still in love with him" NOT "do you still love him," because there is a HUGE difference.
Further, it's not like Raf gave Jane a chance to respond after Raf's confession of "waiting for you to choose Michael almost killed me," It's like Raf already decided that if Jane didn't automatically say "no I do not love my dead and returned from the grave husband" he was going to kick her out... And forcing her to play "bad guy" with her son, the son I can GAURUNTEE YOU was HER LIFELINE and HER REASON TO KEEP LIVING when Michael died... Is CRUEL...
Raf needs some serious therapy before he can handle marriage. Especially since he is being so beyond selfish as if we suddenly have S2 Raf on our hands and all his advancements are entirely regressed... To the point now that I want Villacordero just as bad as Jafael. Michael shows he is the better man for Jane time and time again... However, if the show ends on Villacordero, it ends up -from a literary standpoint- rendering S4 null and all that Jane and Raf went through null... Which would be kinda a crappy way to end a series. At this point, with Raf's actions post rewatch, I want Villacordero cuz Michael was SO PERFECT in all of this all the while Raf is throwing a hissy fit... But I feel like that wouldn't necessarily make for the best ending to the series... Though it would be beyond beautiful to see Villacordero reunited and proven that their love can conquer ALL...
Plus there would be a whole new level of issues for Villacordero to work through. Due to the trauma Michael received and the resulting trauma Jane received due to his trauma. Then there's the fact that Michael may never feel safe due to the fact that despite Rose being in prison, she still presents a major threat to him, Jane, and Mateo. Then there is how Mateo would react and butt heads with Jane and Michael as he wants his parents together...
Ack! Okay I admit it... Apart of me wants Raf to just pull his head out of his rear and begin groveling and coming back to his senses... Just as much as I want Villacordero... So, like Jane... My heart and loyalties are divided between the two! I admit it. I know it's technically a betrayal of both Teams on my part as I am torn between them... But, considering my history that I shared here... Can you really blame me? I more than anyone understand where Jane is coming from...
Other random things from this weeks ep that I loved:
-It took Jane 1 LOOK at Michael and she KNEW and chased him across town. Omg is that true love or what?!
-Michael telling Jane "I am so proud of you." Holy shit you have no idea how badly Jane secretly needed to hear that. I can not begin to tell you how many times I have wondered whether my dead husband would approve of the woman I have become. I would give ANYTHING to hear him tell me that... So I KNOW Jane NEEDED to hear that and am so beyond happy for her that she got that.
-Alba saying she "felt it" with Jorge anf the family automatically taking it dirty lmao 😂
-Xo's confession of her fear that she won't make it and Mateo will remember her as frail and weak. Omg the feels!
Okay. I really will stop now... Thoughts? Rebuttals? Anyone wanna tell me I am wayyy too invested in JTV? 😝
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kob131 · 6 years ago
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQhsvkEfg3w
*Busts through the wall*
Hello Muffin Man Dan. It's been some time since you’ve entered into my sights huh?
So you wanna try and fight now? Fine then, let’s see if you can even begin to challenge me then.
“This video is a huge video project I’ve been working on with multiple RWBYtubers helping out.”
So that means, by how you treat the CRWBY, you’re not allowed a single mistake or misstep.
Good to know Dan.
Chapter 1: Flaws of RWBY
So Dan, with a target this fucking huge and easy to hit, surely you can do have a percentage of at least 10% valid arguments nd not just throw a bunch of shit at the wall and pretend you did something great when one out of a hundred pieces sticks to the wall right?
… NOPE!
Dan doesn’t even make ONE valid argument. The man had a bullseye the size of Texas and somehow managed to miss it while also shooting himself in the head.
His first arguments consists of him saying ‘Well, you were supporting a small company and a fledgling show before so being positive about them then was okay!’ … You know, ignoring how RT was being supported by the creators of HALO, had made the internet sensation Red Vs. Blue for ten years to this point, Monty had made Haloid and Dead Fanatsy among other things ect. Everyone EXCEPT the writers (you know, the people you attack the most) had experience before this so by your own argument you’re wrong. Not to mention the fact that not only didn’t stop assholes from attacking the first  two Volumes but the first two Volumes are STILL what you need to get through in order to get to the latter more professional Volumes so it STILL affects the show long after Rt has grown.
This all ignoring the NUMEROUS fans who started the show after Monty died and had no nostalgia or bias for the man to sustain them unlike you and they all almost UNANIMOUSLY agree the later Volumes are better. And before you try to argue that I’m using the fallacy of ‘Argument Ad Populum”: A. ‘Good’ is inherently subjective so the audience defines what is good and what isn’t. And B. You USE the audience in your argument later so you can’t exactly claim that with my argument without also destroying a latter argument of your own.’
He also tries to peddle off FloofArtist as someone whose trust worthy. For those of you who don’t know, FloofArtist’s beef with the creataors started when he asked Miles for info on Dust and Aura over TWitter and never got an answer...even though he went to an RTX beforehand and asked the CRWBY a question to their faces. The question? ‘How did Qrow get Pyrrha’s armor?’
So he basically pulled that nerd scene from the Simpsons. And then decides to get pissy when he doesn’t get answer on a social media site when the guy is doing something else. I ask, does that sound like someone who is intellectually honest? Or does that sound like someone who tries to put people into dishonest situations and would logically lie his ass off? Yeah Dan is basically saying ‘Oh you don’t know why this politician is bad, go watch CNN/Fox News!’
He then tries to say that ‘ever since V3, the fandom has generally agreed the fight scenes were missing something’ so, you know, he’s using the fanbase here to prove his point even though the same fandom contradicts him everywhere else and he’s gonna smack talk said fandom later on. Also the fanbase generally agrees the fight scenes got back on track in Volume 6 so uh, your point fails.
I could go into his talk about chorography but all he does is talk about interpolating, the neo vs. yang fight, some cuts and just generally does nothing wrong arguing.
And that’s it. This whole segment was supposed to be all about the flaws of the show and he made TWO points. Two points that were deader on arrival than Michael Jackson. Congrats Dan, you completely glossed over so many other issues that naming them all and explaining myself would take me longer than this video in a chapter named ‘Flaws with RWBY’ in a video supposedly a third talking about RWBY the show. Couldn’t even do the bare minimum huh Dan? Fucking pathetic.
Chapter 2: Unprofessionalism
Oh boy, am I gonna have fun here...
So he begins this off by showing a tweet from Lindsay that you can barely read where he claims she’s smack talking people who don’t like the ‘forced diversity’ in RWBY, saying that they’re the people giving them money. You know, ignoring the fact that not all of these people contribute to the show by buying merch, the show is FREE so no, just watching it doesn’t mean you support the show financially, they’re actively trying to strangle money from the creators by lying about them and using them for their political bullshit, you’re USING the fanbase to make this point (the same one you are smack talking and dare gonna smack talk) and this is Lindsay’s PERSONAL Twitter.
Oh an, not like Dan will go on HIS twitter to bitch about every single person who criticizes him, acting far worse than anything he shows here or will show, actively attacks his own critics individually and as a group and shows FAR FAR worse cases of what he’s bitching about.
He then goes onto say that the creators all live in an echo chamber and they lash out before returning to safety. So you know, basically everyone single one of the RWBY critic’s Twitters. No seriously, go onto any video made by a RWBY critic and treat them with 1/1000th of thee contempt and harshness they treat the CRWBY. You’ll end up on Twitter with a snap. So once again, Dan can’t even BEGIN to live up to his standards.
He then plays the Miles clip where he lashes out against critics of the show which seems bad..until you remember that Dan alone has accused them of abusing Monty, using their dead friend as a weapon against them, repeatedly lied about them, riled up his fans into attacking Miles and so much more. And again, this is JUST Dan. And THEN remember that when Dan gets called a single name, he goes on twitter to whine about it, calls everyone else names and then makes videos mocking them so he STILL has no right to say this shit.
He then tries to claim that everyone tells them the same shit which means he’s once again using the fanbase he smack talks for his point even as it contradicts him as damn near everyone loved Volume 6 and many have even said it’s the best Volume of RWBY.
He then tries to deflect criticism against him because he KNOWS he’s setting himself up for a roasting by saying ‘well. I’m criticizing rich people with attitudes so it’s okay!’ … which doesn’t work when you realize that I have about $7 to my name and he gets YouTube money every month and yet I’m still not allowed to criticize him. Even ignoring how fallacious this argument as it somehow means he’s above criticism even as he’s FAR worse in the EXACT same ways: not only does this apply to his OWN critics (you know, the gusy he treats worse than RT has ever done) but Dan is being EVEN MORE divisive than how he sees RT being.
He also tries to make some talk about how them being popular means they deserve to be criticized because betterment of society and our culture and celelbrities and blah blah blah. So basically, “I can ignore your humanity because you’re popular and you don’t act as my slave.” Once again, I only have under 200 followers and at my peak on my old blog I barely had around 500 whereas Dan has 10k subscribers and the people on reddit who criticize him probably have even LESS than me and yet he acts EVEN WORSE so...why should anyone listen to you?
He also tries to leech off the Vic situation by criticizing them for firing Vic. Let’s ignore how this is pandering to the anti-SJW people mobbing around this and look at it like this: Vic is the voice of Broly and Edward Elrich. Meaning he’s far more famous than Rooster Teeth. Sso by Dan’s own logic, they’re ALLOWED to do this stuff since Vic is more famous and more of a celebrity than the entire company. Great job Dan. Also he tries using the fanbase again. We already went over why he lost that right. Oh and uh if you look at Dan’s Twitter feed: ‘https://twitter.com/Obiwanjezz/status/1106810239418945537‘ ‘https://twitter.com/maidmeta/status/1081040501745188864‘ Oh look at what Dan retweeted. Hm, seems pretty damn contradictory to what Dan seems to be projecting. Almost like he’s just pandering to people with an irrational hate of RT to get an echo chamber around him...
Then he goes on and on about a bunch of barely connect bullshit about lesbian fetishists supporting the show just because ‘lesbians’ (even though so many praise Volume 6 without mention Bumbleby) and how even the most venerated RWBYtubers are sick of the show (only citing the lair Floof from before), R/RWBY agreeing with him (with him citing a post that utterly denies him because ‘durr I upvoted it’ even though you can CHANGE YOUR VOTE.) You know, bunch of bullshit that isn’t worth talking about.)
The he tries smack talking the entire RWBY reddit for slander and such (when the worst he’s gotten is accusations of datamining which he’s shown to be talking about) while hes accused the CRWBY of basically grave robbing and disgracing their dead friends work. Again, look in the damn mirror Dan.
Then he makes this big compliation of people in the reddit being sensitive...
Which I can blow out of the water in ONE blow:
Dan has made and removed from his channel no less than THREE videos on me alone.
A comment takes about a  minute to type. A video takes HOURS. So uh...yeah, pretty sure Danny boy here takes the cake.
So then Dan proceeds to say that the fandom is responsible for the ending of Volume 6 (so the fandom is responsible for one of the most conclusive endings to a Volume we’ve ever gotten? Maybe this fandom is worth saving after all!) because they’re all horny and need to fuck. (gee, strawman much?) Even though he’s thrown massive shits for not getting the same treatment.
Chapter 4 (guess I missed the chapter 3 mark. Meh): Representation.
I’m just gonna summarize this entire last part for you guys:
Strawman about entire fanbase liking Volume 6 = gay pandering (ignoring people like Unicorn of War again...)
Talks about homophobes
Leech off Vic
RT is desperate.
Gives doctored screenshots of tweets cutting out any context.
Contradictions (criticizes people for using memes are arguments while using memes as arguments).
And that’s it.
To which I respond by:
You’re the same guy whose going back against everything he’s said on his twitter about politics PRECISELY when it benefits you while you contradict yourself numerous times, your video devolves into pointless rambling and you destroy your own arguments.
Sounds like you’re the desperate one here.
Gee I wonder why? is it because the fanbase liked the Volume even without Bumbleby and you figured out you couldn’t rely on them to support your egotism anymore? Certainly explains your contradictory political stances and how you suddenly start talking about Vic and Adam just as the topics can net you an echo chamber to hide in and protect your ego.
And really, that goes to show why you fail on a fundamental level Dan. You have no convictions, no standards, no morals, no integrity to give substance to your words. Everything you’ve said here either contradicts what you say before or after/applies to you on a much greater scale. And really, your community is no better. You are all willing to throw away what you supposedly fight for and what you stand for when it becomes inconvenient for you, preaching values of self reflection, humility and improvement through criticism...all while failing to embody those values or give any meaning to them beyond lip service. 
Nothing about you feels real or genuine Dan. NONE of you assholes feel real or genuine in what you say or do because you’ve been proven to contradict yourself and betray your values when you need something. And thus, everything you and your friends do and say just becomes ‘Do as I say because I think I’m always right.’ 
And guess what Dan? People, especially the artistically attuned, don’t resonate or accept that. The people who actually care about RWBY, who want to see an artistic vision flourish and grow, sense your insincerity and ego and instinctively reject you because you accept your words would be to accept your toxicity into themselves. And look now. The CRWBY have earned back the fandom’s love and trust while your toxicity consumes you and all but your ilk abandon you to pastuers greater than you.
And it makes sense why you seem to hate RWBY on a fundamental level now because the show challenges people to grow and evolve, to become better people, to live up to their ideals, to prove themselves right. And before, RWBY never put those messages to the test. But now that it has, you reject it because it indirectly calls you out and your ego can’t take it. You can give lip service to quality, to artistic integrity and to Monty all you want now but it’s become certain what you actually mean.
It’s pretty damn pathetic to see you break down little by little over these past few months as you desperately try to bend the world to your vision only to get smacked in the face. And to be truthful, I‘m kind of proud of the fact that I played a pretty big part in your degradation as you crumbled more and more from the pressure I and eventually reality pushed on you. All while I continued to grow and evolve. Wanna know why?
Because I stuck to my ideals and morals.
I think it’s time I finished this little battle or ours for the most part. You’re no longer worth fighting. Just like RWDE for the most part has lost all it’s strength now.
So with this I say adieu. Come join the adults when you’re ready to grow up Dan.
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samzgoogledotcom-blog · 5 years ago
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How effective are guard dogs really for home security?
In Home Security by Jody11/02/2014
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Guard dogs – A bit of a mixed bag
Alright, I know that most of you that are reading this probably already love dogs, are biased, and will defend their effectiveness to your grave.  So, I’m going to throw you a bone.  I think that dogs CAN be effective deterrents to criminals.  On the other hand, I’m going to tell you why they aren’t fool proof.
Don’t have false illusions the the effectiveness of your dog as a home security solution (AKA guard dog).
After all, their effectiveness can be a mixed bag.  I picked this up in just a few minutes of reading “Ask me anything” (AMA) posts from former burglars.  In response to a question about how a person could keep their things secure, he responded,
Get a dog. Houses with dogs don’t get robbed. Dogs are loud, hard to spot, and bite. Doesn’t have to be an attack dog – just a barking dog. Thieves would rather save the hassle and hit the next house.
On the other hand, the next AMA with a thief said just the opposite,
I am amazingly good with dogs and have never had a problem with them making noise. Professional guard dogs are a problem, and I’ve never had to deal with them. If I had to, I suppose it would be to have a mild tranquilizer mixed into some steak to throw over the fence. It would depend on the situation I think.
And, then he further clarified later by saying,
I only encountered a couple barking dogs so far. I’m good with animals and know how to approach them. I’ve only had one dog not calm down after a minute. In that case I just grabbed what I could in a minute and walked out.
Here’s the link if you want to read it for yourself.  So, what should we think with this conflicting information?
One of the best questions may be, is this your dog
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or is this your dog. To summarize if you didn’t watch the video, all 5 of the dogs failed to stop an intruder and most either licked or played with the guy when he broke into the home. In summary, the average dog makes a lousy security system. They need to be trained specifically for that purpose and even then, they may be circumvented with some pretty obvious techniques depending on their training.
First, let’s dispense with some misconceptions
Let’s go through the arguments you may think of to support the effectiveness of a dog.
 My dog barks at everything, so he’s as good as an alarm.
An alarm that goes off all the time (false alarms) is useless, because you will turn it off so that it doesn’t drive you crazy. A dog that barks all the time is just as useless. It’s worse than an alarm system, because you can’t turn it off. And, it’s just as ineffective because you and your neighbors won’t pay any attention to it because it always barks.
My dog is very protective of us/our home, so she’ll defend our house.
If a person your dog doesn’t know approaches you on your lawn, how does your dog react? If she doesn’t bark and otherwise show some discomfort until getting a signal from you that it’s OK, then you have to wonder if she would be just as docile meeting a stranger in the home. Even if there is a naturally protective nature that you encourage and do not train that behavior out of your dog by getting on to her when she acts that way, are you confident that she will not quietly and happily chew on a steak rather than attacking a stranger in your house? This will most likely require training your dog, and can cost thousands of dollars. And, even trained guard dogs fail this distraction, the most obvious of attacks.
We put together a Slideshare presentation that summarizes the shortcomings of using dogs for home security pretty succinctly.
Now for some good news
Dogs are definitely a deterrent.
 Just like some of your neighbors may not be comfortable with dogs or you may not trust dogs that you don’t know. There will be some criminals that either don’t have or don’t like dogs or have an innate mistrust of dogs. I haven’t been able to find any stats on what percentage of the population that is, but at least you take a portion of the criminals out of the equation.
To get around an aggressive guard dog, a certain level of preparation is required. That can mean tranquilizers slipped in a door or windows in a piece of meat and waiting 10 minutes before the dog is asleep. Or, it could mean some steaks wrapped in butcher paper in a backpack. Either way, your dog may turn away the thief that doesn’t come adequately prepared.
Good dogs bark at the right times. And, if you are a criminal breaking into a house, a sudden source of extra noise to draw attention to you is the last thing that you want. So, add one to the dog column once again.
And . . . the bad news
Some of these, I have already covered. So, I’ll be brief.
First, your dog needs to be effective as a guard dog. Most of the dogs that I meet are very friendly with strangers, so the odds are against you here.
It’s not that hard to shut even a trained dog up. Just bring a large, tough piece of meat with you when you go robbing houses or a tranquilizer in some meat that you pick up from the vet.
Even if your dog barks and acts tough, without training it probably won’t actually attack and interrupt a burglar’s routine. After all, burglars usually just need a few minutes in your house to grab any cash, jewelry, and small electronics that they can find. Even if your dog follows them around barking or confronts them at the door, they may be able to keep him calm long enough to steal some valuables.
Some people are just great with pets. What dog doesn’t become friendly when a person acts like a friend and gives him rawhide treats.
Dogs are expensive. According to the ASPCA, they are $700 per year expensive, plus another $600 for other one time costs. For that kind of cost, you can afford a really great security system with top-notch monitoring services, cellular backups, and multiple cameras.
#2 is confirmed in this scenario, again taken from Reddit:
I drove around his home with binoculars and found the shortest point in his fence. I hopped it. I knocked on a window and sure enough, dogs start barking. I had some dog tranquilizer (very easy to obtain) and some lunch meat in my bag, as I was expecting dogs. I walk around his house a bit and see a power box. I start picking the lock, it opens, and I power down the house. I pick the front door open, set the drugged meat down, yell at the dogs and hop the fence again. I wait ten minutes and I peek back over and the dogs were out. So I stroll on in the houses and start loading up.
So, what’s the score?
Of course, this is your decision. But if I look at it objectively, I can do a lot more with my money by increasing the robustness of my home security with an alarm system and other home upgrades. So, if I get a dog, it’s because I want to train him to hunt birds with me and not because I want a deterrent for criminals.
I’m sure some of you will disagree with me and may even have great stories of how your dog as helped you. Feel free to share those with us in the comments below.
  Link to the article: https://24-7-home-security.com/guard-dogs-home-security/
Related articles: https://peppereyes.wordpress.com/2011/03/31/the-barking-dog-security-system/
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How effective are guard dogs really for home security?
In Home Security by Jody11/02/2014
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Guard dogs – A bit of a mixed bag
Alright, I know that most of you that are reading this probably already love dogs, are biased, and will defend their effectiveness to your grave.  So, I’m going to throw you a bone.  I think that dogs CAN be effective deterrents to criminals.  On the other hand, I’m going to tell you why they aren’t fool proof.
Don’t have false illusions the the effectiveness of your dog as a home security solution (AKA guard dog).
After all, their effectiveness can be a mixed bag.  I picked this up in just a few minutes of reading “Ask me anything” (AMA) posts from former burglars.  In response to a question about how a person could keep their things secure, he responded,
Get a dog. Houses with dogs don’t get robbed. Dogs are loud, hard to spot, and bite. Doesn’t have to be an attack dog – just a barking dog. Thieves would rather save the hassle and hit the next house.
On the other hand, the next AMA with a thief said just the opposite,
I am amazingly good with dogs and have never had a problem with them making noise. Professional guard dogs are a problem, and I’ve never had to deal with them. If I had to, I suppose it would be to have a mild tranquilizer mixed into some steak to throw over the fence. It would depend on the situation I think.
And, then he further clarified later by saying,
I only encountered a couple barking dogs so far. I’m good with animals and know how to approach them. I’ve only had one dog not calm down after a minute. In that case I just grabbed what I could in a minute and walked out.
Here’s the link if you want to read it for yourself.  So, what should we think with this conflicting information?
One of the best questions may be, is this your dog
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or is this your dog. To summarize if you didn’t watch the video, all 5 of the dogs failed to stop an intruder and most either licked or played with the guy when he broke into the home. In summary, the average dog makes a lousy security system. They need to be trained specifically for that purpose and even then, they may be circumvented with some pretty obvious techniques depending on their training.
First, let’s dispense with some misconceptions
Let’s go through the arguments you may think of to support the effectiveness of a dog.
 My dog barks at everything, so he’s as good as an alarm.
An alarm that goes off all the time (false alarms) is useless, because you will turn it off so that it doesn’t drive you crazy. A dog that barks all the time is just as useless. It’s worse than an alarm system, because you can’t turn it off. And, it’s just as ineffective because you and your neighbors won’t pay any attention to it because it always barks.
My dog is very protective of us/our home, so she’ll defend our house.
If a person your dog doesn’t know approaches you on your lawn, how does your dog react? If she doesn’t bark and otherwise show some discomfort until getting a signal from you that it’s OK, then you have to wonder if she would be just as docile meeting a stranger in the home. Even if there is a naturally protective nature that you encourage and do not train that behavior out of your dog by getting on to her when she acts that way, are you confident that she will not quietly and happily chew on a steak rather than attacking a stranger in your house? This will most likely require training your dog, and can cost thousands of dollars. And, even trained guard dogs fail this distraction, the most obvious of attacks.
We put together a Slideshare presentation that summarizes the shortcomings of using dogs for home security pretty succinctly.
Now for some good news
Dogs are definitely a deterrent.
 Just like some of your neighbors may not be comfortable with dogs or you may not trust dogs that you don’t know. There will be some criminals that either don’t have or don’t like dogs or have an innate mistrust of dogs. I haven’t been able to find any stats on what percentage of the population that is, but at least you take a portion of the criminals out of the equation.
To get around an aggressive guard dog, a certain level of preparation is required. That can mean tranquilizers slipped in a door or windows in a piece of meat and waiting 10 minutes before the dog is asleep. Or, it could mean some steaks wrapped in butcher paper in a backpack. Either way, your dog may turn away the thief that doesn’t come adequately prepared.
Good dogs bark at the right times. And, if you are a criminal breaking into a house, a sudden source of extra noise to draw attention to you is the last thing that you want. So, add one to the dog column once again.
And . . . the bad news
Some of these, I have already covered. So, I’ll be brief.
First, your dog needs to be effective as a guard dog. Most of the dogs that I meet are very friendly with strangers, so the odds are against you here.
It’s not that hard to shut even a trained dog up. Just bring a large, tough piece of meat with you when you go robbing houses or a tranquilizer in some meat that you pick up from the vet.
Even if your dog barks and acts tough, without training it probably won’t actually attack and interrupt a burglar’s routine. After all, burglars usually just need a few minutes in your house to grab any cash, jewelry, and small electronics that they can find. Even if your dog follows them around barking or confronts them at the door, they may be able to keep him calm long enough to steal some valuables.
Some people are just great with pets. What dog doesn’t become friendly when a person acts like a friend and gives him rawhide treats.
Dogs are expensive. According to the ASPCA, they are $700 per year expensive, plus another $600 for other one time costs. For that kind of cost, you can afford a really great security system with top-notch monitoring services, cellular backups, and multiple cameras.
#2 is confirmed in this scenario, again taken from Reddit:
I drove around his home with binoculars and found the shortest point in his fence. I hopped it. I knocked on a window and sure enough, dogs start barking. I had some dog tranquilizer (very easy to obtain) and some lunch meat in my bag, as I was expecting dogs. I walk around his house a bit and see a power box. I start picking the lock, it opens, and I power down the house. I pick the front door open, set the drugged meat down, yell at the dogs and hop the fence again. I wait ten minutes and I peek back over and the dogs were out. So I stroll on in the houses and start loading up.
So, what’s the score?
Of course, this is your decision. But if I look at it objectively, I can do a lot more with my money by increasing the robustness of my home security with an alarm system and other home upgrades. So, if I get a dog, it’s because I want to train him to hunt birds with me and not because I want a deterrent for criminals.
I’m sure some of you will disagree with me and may even have great stories of how your dog as helped you. Feel free to share those with us in the comments below.
  Link to the article: https://24-7-home-security.com/guard-dogs-home-security/
Related articles: https://peppereyes.wordpress.com/2011/03/31/the-barking-dog-security-system/
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