#oh also because I am a fish guy- I DONT LIKE THAT LOGAN GAME FISHES- some of their hauls have been sketch as hell as far as catch limits

[russilton]

What’re your thoughts on America’s sweethearts Logan Sargeant and Chloe Chambers?

I promise you those on Logan’s are eagles, I was using a double line brush sometimes you get what you get

Lets start with the easy one- Chloe! I know so little about her but she seems like a good egg, synth loves her and I am super fond! I cheered when she won, I look forward to seeing her alongside Este and Ollie next year because I think they’ll make a thoroughly chaotic group of children. Yes este included. She seems great! Go kiddo!

Logan… Logan is complicated. I really don’t hate the guy, but I can’t make myself love him. He suffers from being slap bang in the middle of slightly misplaced frustration at a system that’s not on him, and frustration with his fans. It’s not his fault, I feel deeply sorry for the lot he’s been stuck with and the critique levelled at him very fast, but I also think a lot of people baby him when the reality of F1 is just gutting and frustrating sometimes. My opinions are very driver meta heavy, so I’ll stick them under a read more bc not everyone wants to read that

I feel for Sargent, I feel for his fans. Not everyone swims, I was a fan of Nicky who he replaced, and I adored the guy but he just wasn’t fit for F1, and part of that is drive and part of it is just confidence. Logan had a harder entry, but greater confidence, but that just doesn’t always translate to a drive. And that. Sucks. You can hate it and grieve it and it will hurt. But I also don’t think James Vowles is the enemy for telling him he has to preform. I don’t think he was evil for switching the cars. He has 1000+ people at grove to protect and they don’t have the safety or money Logan does. James didn’t hire him but he gave him the best shot he could with incredible gentle hands for that first year. But that just cant last forever. You sometimes have to choose between your driver being babied because they are young, which means they aren’t trusted, or trusted, but that means responsibilities and pressure.

While it’s not what he wants and it sucks, Logan does have options, has a safety net in Indy car who seems desperate for him to return home, or I was even saying to friends he would be a great shout for formula E! He has options, and whatever happens he has achieved a dream many don’t, in getting in an f1 car at all. He should be damn proud of that.

Which is also why I feel a little bitter sometimes- I see a lot of people calling out that Logan was never give a shot- he was absolutely pulled too fast, but he WAS given an astronomical opportunity. You can think what Williams did wasn’t fair but what’s even crueller is the people who don’t get what Logan did at all. I’m a Fred fan, so I wanted him in Logan’s seat if it was vacated, and as it becomes clear that’s not very likely to happen, all I get to see is the fact Logan got a shot my guy might not. People can call Ameriphobia, but being American got him his seat, having sponsors and family connections following him got him his seat. He’s no nepo baby but he wasn’t helpless…Some people have none of that, no matter how they preform, how hard they try. Is any of this Logan’s fault?

No, Logan’s not Merc (or Toto), he has no say, he’s fighting for his own life. but I also can’t really… detach him from that. If he does stay, good, if he goes, I think he still has so many opportunities to shine. I see in Logan not the man himself, but the shadow of those before, and those who could have been.

I also caution y’all this is a personal opinion most definitely not shared by wider fandom or teams- but it’s where my head is at. If you don’t agree— trust me, I’m already suffering. I have so much sympathy for the guy which is WHY I feel so much. I have far less thoughts about dudes I hate

Driver opinion Bingo

[stories4english]

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okay i might get jumbled up but the episode starts out at a Knight familia reunion jo is invited along and she is so happes because "wow im family?? WOW!!!!"

but turns out kendall only invited her along because the knight family always has 2-person team competitions but kendall has aged out the competition. jo hasn't tho. and there's so many people around with different last names other than knight that no one's gonna know if she enteres(also she looks just like them so no one will suspect a thing) kendall really wants to win a trophy but he and katie(rememebr this is two-people teams) always lose to their cousins ____ and _____(forgot their names)

jo gets mad at kendall for tricking her but agrees to join the competition with katie despite katie not wanting to compete either and kendall decides that everyone must start a-training for the race!!! then we switch over to logan and camille playing go-fish or something

logan tells camille about how kendall's at a family reunion and camille's like "oh yeah mine's coming up soon" and logan is like "ok" and camille's like "when was the last time you had yours?" and logan is like "lol never" and camille is like "???? but what about your FAMILY" and logan is liek "eh"

so camille asks "wait so your mom never had a reunion" and he's like "nah she isn't close with her family" and then logan is like "oh oh I just got a new board game we could play instead" so he gets up and leaves and camille realizes that she's never heard anything about logan's DAD. carlos walks in and camille asks about logan's dad but carlos has no clue where he is and camille's like "WHAT!? but you've known logan for years!!!"

and I forgot the next conversation but basically camille and carlos don sherlock and watson hats and decde to figure out the mystery of logan's dad and leaves the apartment right when logan comes back with the board game and logan is like "??? camille where r u"

camille and carlos past by james and lucy who are sitting in the palm woods lobby. james is like "wanna kiss?" and lucy is like "james. i'm an upstanding tax-paying young adult. I do not 'kiss' or 'make-out' in public areas." then james is like "ok. wanna go back to my place and kiss?" then lucy is like "OH MY GOD NO" and james is like "wow dont have to yell i was just playing." then lucy is like "no, not that. my mom's here!" and yeah her mom is there and is like "aww lucille ily i missed u so much i decided to visit." and lucy is embarressed and james is like "lol"

and after a somewhat pleasant conversation where mrs. stone is introduced to james, james suddenly screams in terror and lucy is like "dude screaming randomly is not a good first impression" but james is like "no, not that THAT!" and he points and turns out his mom is there as well

mrs. diamond sees james and runs over and talks about how she misses him and - OH WAIT MRS. DIAMOND KNOWS MRS. STONE OOPS. turns out mrs. diamond tried to cut down some nature preserve in order to build one of her new deluxe stores and mrs. stone was one of the main people who made sure that didn't happen

mrs. diamond and mrs. stone are like "YOU TWO ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DATE EACH OTHER" and drag them away back at the family reunion jo and katie just finished some strenuous exercise to prepare for the competition and they are like "omg we are tired kendall can we stop" and Kendall's like "but we have to beat ____ and _____!! this is our last chance!" and they whine because they haven't had freaking lunch yet and after awhile kendall is liek "fine, let's break for lunch but right when they start getting food ____ and ____ come over and torment them by pointing out how many gold medals they've won at the Knight family reunions while the only actual people with a "Knight" surname haven't won any. Maybe...maybe they aren't true "Knight"'s after all... This gets Kendall MAD and Jo and Katie are like "FINE we'll skip lunch to practice some more uggghhh" (oh yeah see in the episode Knight's are descended from the first Knight but Kendall, Katie, and Mrs. Knight are the only ones with this last name. everyone else has different ones) then we go back to logan in apartment 2J trying to look for camille. he's flipping over couch cushions and everything

mrs. diamond barges in, dragging james inside as well. mrs. diamond is liek "you can not go near that tree-hugging hippie, understand?" and james is like "i've never seen lucy hug a tree." but mrs. diamond is like "DO NOT GO NEAR HER!" and walks down a hallway james runs over to logan and is like "dude u gotta help me. lucy's mom is here too and apparently they know each other and hate each other and won't let lucy and i date" and logan's like "just wait until both parents leave. I have bigger issues. ive lost camille." and james is like "but logan i havent been kissed in 4 days. FOUR DAYS. im dying. please help me." and logan is like "what am i supposed to do?" and james tells him to use that smart brain of his to figure out a way to let lucy and james see each other so they can kiss

and logan is like "ok fine. it's not like i was gonna find camille anyways - she's a world class champ at hide and seek." and they leave the apartment together camille and carlos pop out from behind the couch carlos brings out a scrapbook saying that it holds a lot of pictures from when they were young they look at the pictures and see tons of pics of the boys and also pics of adults as well and camille is like "...wait how do we know which adult is logan's dad?" and carlos is like "I have no idea." wait carlos is like "I have no idea. OK well I have to go to work now" and camille is like "WAIT you can't go to work! who's gonna be my watson!?" and carlos is like "Umm hey! gustavo has records of us at his office maybe he has something with info about logan's dad" and camille is like "ooh great idea let's go"

and gustavo is like "Carlos, I didn't tell you you could bring your girlfriend. and wasn't she dating james?" and kelly's like "i thought she was dating logan." and gustavo's like "oh who knows you guys break up with your girlfriends like all the time i don't care just make sure she doesn't destroy anything out here." and gustavo, kelly, and carlos go inside the recording booth camille puts back on her sherlock hat(which they took off before entering rocque records btw) and sneaks into the office then we go back to lucy and mrs. stone. Lucy is all like "mom. we are all strong, independent women - except for james - let's just talk this out." and mrs. stone is like "NO! That MONSTER tried to cut down the nature preserve for a MAKEUP SHOP! you will NOT associate with anyone as evil as that!" we flip over to the outside of the apartment. logan has a gift basket entitled "from mrs. diamond to mrs. stone" and he says that all girls liked gift baskets so this might help smooth things over. he leaves the gift basket on the floor and knocks on the door and he and james run around the corner mrs. stone finds the gift basket and james and logan are excite

but then mrs. stone gets mad because the gift basket contained muffins and she freaking hates muffins and lucy is like "come on mom i doubt mrs. diamond knew that you are exaggerating" but her mom is like "NO! She must've known I hated them so she gave them under the guise of a 'let's be friends' gift."

logan and james get all sad cuz their plan failed and wonder what to do next when mrs. diamond walks by. she asks the boys why she heard screaming and they tell her what happened and she's like "Oh darn, I wanted to be the one to give her the muffin basket" and she holds up a muffin basket of her own. she then praises james for seekign revenge for his mommy and leaves ok back at the knight reunion and it's competition time. it's a team obstacle race with all the lame obstacle race obstacles you can think of. all the competiters look happy and smiley except for jo and katie who are really dirty because they spent all day practicing they run the race and they win kendall is very excite katie and jo go up to collect the trophy and they decide to deliver a speech congradulating kendall for helping them achieve the award they invite kendall on the stage. he gets tons o' applause and he is very happ. then Jo grabs and kisses Kendall on the lips. remember they all think jo is a family member. everyone is SHOCKED and DISGUSTED at the KISSING COUSINS kendall gets le boo'd off stage jo and katie laugh camille leaves gustavo's office in ruins. there's even smoke coming out of it. carlos comes out of the recording both and she tells him that she found nothing so they leave. Kelly and Gustavo watches them leave and Kelly is like "wait where did Camille get that hat?" Gustavo then screams because HIS OFFICE IS RUINED at the palm woods Lucy is standing in Jo's balcony that overlooks the pool and James is standing below it. Lucy's like "oh my god James why did your mom have to try and tear down a forest where I live!? We wouldn't be in this mess otherwise!" And James is like "what the heck it isn't my fault your mom is a tree-hugging hippie" And Lucy is like "do you even know what a tree-hugger is or are you just repeating what your mom says??" And Logan is like "huh. this reminds me of a very twisted version of romeo and juliet." Lucy and James argue until their moms walk in. They yell at their children to stay away from one another when the bar on Jo's balcony FREAKING BREAKS and Lucy FALLS DOWN AND HITS JAMES AND THEY BOTH FALL DOWN and their moms are like OH NO R BABIES and they get all sad and they realize that they might not agree on a lot of things but they do agree on one thing: their kids r the #1 most importante thing in their lives and if they want to date each other than so be it so the moms bond and walk away logan is like "wow, romeo and juliet, you guys did great. how did you fake a fall like that?" and lucy and james are like "we didn't....call 911....." camille and logan walk into the lobby and are mad because they couldn't figure out any info on logan's dad they see lucy and james being carried out by the ER on stretchers and get even madder because they apparently just missed something really cool logan walks into the lobby and is like "Oh hey I found you camille - why are you two wearing sherlock and watson hats?" they tell him what they were doing and logan's like "well you could've just asked me" turns out logan does have a dad but he just travels a lot and carlos is like "ooh yeah I forgot about that somehow." and camille is like "really? that's super anti-climatic I can't believe I wasted all day on this." logan is like "lol you should just ask next time. I'm going to the hospital to see james and lucy; wanna come?" camille and carlos are like "nah we'll go there next time" and logan leaves kendall, katie, jo(and mrs. knight who was there but doesn't really do much of anything) walk in and kendall talks about how he learned his lesson and that he shouldn't trick jo or force anyone into doing things they don't want to blah blah blah camille and carlos ask them how the reunion was like and katie's like "It was great. Kendall kissed his cousin!" and then they walk off, much to camille and carlos's confusion and kendall's embarrassment camille then wonders about why she never heard of kendall's dad carlos is like "idk i forget" camille and carlos then don their sherlock and watson hats once more and decide to go investigating!